Well, well, well – look at this. Is the conversation about #rapeculture starting to take on a shade of sanity?

Ripowal1 · 2013-10-17T06:33:09+00:00

Matthew took her home and left her semi-conscious on her front lawn in freezing temperatures.

That was a dick move, for sure.

Can we not refer to leaving a small, thin, unconscious and intoxicated 14-year-old outside to freeze at 22 degrees as just "a dick move"? Intoxicated people are more susceptible to shock and hypothermia, she could have died.

NoraCharles91 · 2013-10-17T09:04:36+00:00

This is madness and cruelty. What next? "Maybe that abused kid shouldn't have pissed off his alcoholic mom if he didn't want a black eye?"

Das_Mime · 2013-10-17T10:38:37+00:00

The linked article is the clearest example of rape culture I've seen in a while. Girl raped and left to freeze outside? It's her fault!

Get your shit together OP. You suck.

2013-10-17T19:38:52+00:00

This whole article made me sick. First, her comparison of the case to Steubenville made it seem like she was implying Steubenville wasn't rape when it was clearly brutal rape. And then the whole idea that "well you got drunk, so the guy who had sex with you and left you helpless and half dead on your parents lawn is a dick but let's not go so far as to call him a rapist!" is not shifting the blame away from the perpetrator? Please.

There is a world of difference between saying you should keep yourself safe and be careful when you're out drinking and saying that if you get drunk and someone takes advantage "it will be your fault".

2013-10-17T20:41:27+00:00

People keep forgetting the age of the girl involved. 14... Even if we go to the author's metaphor:

Wear your seatbelt. It’s a sensible precaution if you get in an accident. The accident may not be your fault, but it will be your fault if you get severely injured by failing to take that reasonable precaution.

We wouldn't blame a 9 y/o for not having their seat belt buckled. They don't have a concept of "reasonable precaution".

A 14 y/o, much the same way, cannot always take "reasonable precaution" on complex social/sexual issues the way a 17 y/o can. I know it sounds disingenuous, but there really is a HUGE emotional/physical difference between a freshman and a senior (which is this case).

Plain and simple... she didn't know what she was doing. He took advantage, even if all things being equal, it was "consensual" at the time. In this case, not all things were equal. Most notably, psychological maturity.

2013-10-17T15:52:52+00:00

It's not victim-preventing. Its victim-blaming, plain and simple. I can't believe that the author would try and claim that it's the victim's fault that he or she got raped if he or she happened to be drinking. When I drink with my friends, Its because I want to hang out with them, play video games, and drink. It doesn't mean that I'm opening myself up to any and all sexual scenarios. If that's the case, then stepping outside my house would be my way of inviting people to murder me.

ProfStone · 2013-10-17T06:03:59+00:00

"they demonstrate just how schizophrenic mainstream, feminist-influenced media has become" kinda like the upcoming ABC special

Title	Well, well, well – look at this. Is the conversation about #rapeculture starting to take on a shade of sanity?
Author	actanonverba8
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Date	October 17, 2013 5:16 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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