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If you guys don't even know how long gestation is for humans, you don't stand a chance against women in nearly any argument.

bluequail

August 12, 2013
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1k5xun/women_never_have_bad_attitudes_men_are_just_weak/cblt06r

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Title If you guys don't even know how long gestation is for humans, you don't stand a chance against women in nearly any argument.
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bluequail

Upvotes 0
Comments 22
Date August 12, 2013 5:55 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1k6wbo/if_you_guys_dont_even_know_how_long_gestation_is/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/if-you-guys-dont-even-know-how-long-gestation-is.1166589
https://theredarchive.com/post/1166589
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[–]rightsbot 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]bluequail[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Better than that - here is a screen shot of the link:

http://i.imgur.com/SsEfv01.png

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

1) You already posted several times in that post, was it needed to post a new one here?

2) That person was not wrong, just not exactly accurate. While it's true that women can give birth more than once during a year (becoming pregnant just after having giving birth), it's a quite rare situation. Again, that person was not accurate, this is true.

3) "you don't stand a chance against women in nearly any argument."

This is total non-sense and a basis for a series of ad hominem attacks. I could believe a lot of wrong things about women anatomy, that my arguments with women about any topic could still be totally correct.

[–]bluequail[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I wanted the other people in men's rights to see that there is apparently a fair percentage of you guys that don't even have a clue how long human gestation is.

I can only guess that everyone that is downvoting the fact that human gestation is only 9 months don't know that. That means there are quite a few of you.

If you guys don't even have a clue to that simple fact that is taught in every middle school, then logic will dance circles around you, without ever touching you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm quite sure that most people are aware that gestation is 9 months, but many may be unaware of how quickly the woman can get pregnant again (woman is fertile almost instantly). That doesn't mean that a "fair percentage" don't have a clue. Straw man argument.

People are downvoting because this post is useless. What do you expect people to do here, reward your straw man and ad hominem attacks?

Total non-sense. I have forgotten lots of facts taught in every middle school, but that doesn't mean I lost my sense of logic. How are those even related? Are you aware that it's you who is having logic dance around you and you are unable to grasp it?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you don't get it. 1 over 77403 is totally statistically significant.

[–]bluequail[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

eople are downvoting because this post is useless.

No, they are downvoting it because they don't have a clue. Did you see the guy that thought it took 18 months? He (if he can ever get near a woman with his reproductive parts) is in for one hell of an early surprise.

because this post is useless.

It was in reply to someone saying that a person can't go through labor more than once a year.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, they are downvoting it because they don't have a clue

It must be that, not because there's no point in here.

Did you see the guy that thought it took 18 months? He (if he can ever get near a woman with his reproductive parts) is in for one hell of an early surprise.

Classic shaming attack. He made a mistake and I can see which one, but yes, I don't deny it, he was wrong, but because he made an insight error he'll never have sex?

It was in reply to someone saying that a person can't go through labor more than once a year.

Then stick to the original message.

[–]bluequail[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

but because he made an insight error he'll never have sex?

I can't think of anyone that would want to be with someone that is that lacking in knowledge.

Then stick to the original message.

I did. Then I got such a big laugh out of it, I realized that the smarter of you guys needed to help the dimmer of you guys. In the meantime, why not try to educate your peers and contemporaries.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't think of anyone that would want to be with someone that is that lacking in knowledge.

You have male sons, right? Teach them to be like this. Teach them that they need to be perfect and have very good knowledge of everything, especially when it comes to women, or otherwise they will never have sex.

Please do it if you want your children to have a miserable sex life, full of frustration and anger towards women. Teaching your kids that they can only be loved if they are perfect is going to cripple them. Accept that people do mistakes and even if they do, they are not going to be less loved.

I'll not answer to you anymore because we're in a stalemate. I already admitted that some people were wrong/inaccurate in that post, yet for you this is somehow funny, like if you were some kind of illuminated being that is never wrong.

So, to sum up, you feel that only by being perfect you can be loved, which I assume come from your parents and you are projecting that into everybody else. You can stop the cycle and prevent your children from feeling the same way.

[–]bluequail[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

like if you were some kind of illuminated being that is never wrong.

It isn't about never being wrong, it was about being so wrong about something so fundamental to your own species.

You have male sons, right? Teach them to be like this. Teach them that they need to be perfect and have very good knowledge of everything, especially when it comes to women, or otherwise they will never have sex.

What I have taught them is to avoid abysmally stupid people. Both male and female. That if they surround themselves with the lowest common denominator, that their children will become that as well. That stupidity will become the accepted norm, if their friends and family are moronic, because kids learn from the examples they see.

Accept that people do mistakes and even if they do, they are not going to be less loved.

One of my sons did mess up pretty monumentally. Actually, it was the result of one of his friends pushing to be stupid, and my son followed right along. It was bad enough that I suggested to him that he go live with his stupid friend. That if he was going to surround his self with stupid people like that, an education would be wasted on him. It is a long story, and I'd be willing to tell you via pm, but I am not going to waste everyone's time on it. But he is right on the cusp of being disowned, over it. But basically, love is not unconditional. If he is going to emulate the worst kind of trash, then he wasn't welcome in my family.

[–]bluequail[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

By the way, buddy? Pick one thread to respond to, and please stick with just that one. Between the first thread, the nasty pm from you and this thread, it is hard to keep up with which part of the conversation you are plunging me in to.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What? I didn't answer to the original post and I have certainly not sent you a private message. You are very confused.

[–]bluequail[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have certainly not sent you a private message.

Eh - maybe it was someone else. Let me go look.

You are right, it wasn't you. It was /u/Theophagist. My apologies.

Do you catch that my comment was in response to peter_principle saying : "* Nor can you go through labor more than once a year,*". Which was wrong. I've seen the aftermath of that myself.

But then how upset everyone got because I stated that it was possible. Which just shows a gap in knowledge that is a pretty serious one. Not that one or two people made a mistake, but then everyone starting disputing that it was possible. How can you even wrap your head around that? Living here in Texas, I see redneck intelligence that is just like this. You hear stupid things like "dogs get distemper from eating hot food", and "wearing a string of burdock burrs around your neck will stop a fever". Arguing that it is not biologically possible to give birth less frequently than once every 12 months is about the same level of knowledge or education.

And if you guys are going to defend your statements and that of your brethren, even when you are wrong, then you are going to look a little less than smart.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, you're here to troll. So go eat a bag or rotting dicks somewhere else, please?

[–]businesstimemod 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

For the record, I just downvoted you because you're using a semantic argument which has nothing to do with the premise.

[+]bluequail[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is peachy. In the meantime, keep promoting lack of any real knowledge amongst men.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Frankly you're just as wrong.

Human gestation is an average of 40 weeks. It can be shorter, with babies surviving with extreme medical assistance as early as 24 weeks, and can go as long as 44 weeks with relative safety.

A year is 52 weeks long.

After birth, it takes 80% of women up to 10 weeks to have another normal menstrual period. Most women won't ovulate again until at least 6 weeks post-partum.

So while possible, for the vast majority, birthing twice in 12 months is highly unlikely, given you have at best 2 chances at conceiving to make it happen given a full 40 week baby and ovulation again at 6 weeks postpartum.

Source: Google, midwives etc. I myself am 25w, 4d

[–]bluequail[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There are still less weeks in a year than the duration of a human pregnancy.

Most women won't ovulate again until at least 6 weeks post-partum.

6 weeks, plus 40 weeks = more than a year or less than a year? It is still physically possible to have more than one child in less than a year.

And as I had said in the thread, I have seen people with children that shared a common mother, that were less than 52 weeks apart. I didn't do that, my kids are 8 years apart. But I have seen it.

You say:

After birth, it takes 80% of women up to 10 weeks to have another normal menstrual period.

Perhaps an actual menstrual period isn't necessary. When I was younger, I knew someone that had an early year baby, and then a late in fall baby. I asked her "what the hell happened?", and she said that her SO wouldn't leave her alone, and so she gave in.

But the actual statement that started all of this was :

Nor can you go through labor more than once a year,

and it is possible.

Then you start getting statements like this:

So to give birth you twice it would take 18 months... So you can't go through labor more than once a year... -_-

Which just defies the laws of biology.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, a total of 46 out of 52 weeks. Which means if you don't immediately conceive after the birth, you get just one more chance to conceive (theoretically at 50 weeks) before you go over the 1 year mark. The chances of conceiving on any given ovulation period is between one in four and one in five.

[–]bluequail[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The chances of conceiving on any given ovulation period is between one in four and one in five.

Which puts it at a 20-25% chance of getting pregnant, of those gals that gave in. Those are pretty high odds.

I don't see how they could do it, even after a c-section, I was too sore for months to even use insertable female sanitary items. But some would engage in intercourse, anyhow. And they'd fall for the myth that as long as they were lactating, they couldn't get pregnant.

With most mammals, there is a rapid cycle right after they've given birth where they are ovulating. With horses, it is a 6 day heat, and cattle, I think a 4 day heat. I can't remember what it is for dogs or cats. But it is strictly to allow the being to breed again, immediately.

You know, earlier you were saying about when periods resumed. When I had my sons, I bled non-stop for nearly two months after the fact.

I've been googling like everything, trying to see what the equivalent for humans are, of the 4/6 day cycle. This is the closest thing I can find. there are a lot of pages saying you can get pregnant again immediately, but goes into a long spiel of why you shouldn't. But I can't find anything that specifically says "within number of days".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You pointed out a technicality that would allow a woman to give birth twice in the same year...what do you want a freakin' medal?

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