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Government banks £5bn by delaying 1.1m women's state pensions. Women complaining because of the equality in retirement ages.

furchfur

August 2, 2017
31 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/government-banks-5bn-delaying-1-063700741.html
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Title Government banks £5bn by delaying 1.1m women's state pensions. Women complaining because of the equality in retirement ages.
Author

furchfur

Upvotes 31
Comments 12
Date August 2, 2017 7:04 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6r2ife/government_banks_5bn_by_delaying_11m_womens_state/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/government-banks-5bn-by-delaying-11m-womens-state.1176237
https://theredarchive.com/post/1176237
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Comments

[–]perplexedm 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago* (26 children) | Copy Link

Pensions given to women who outlive men in general is a huge burden to govts.

Many for eg., military men marry late, sometime more than once and pensions to their divorced or widows are a big problem.

Also should consider that women mostly outlive men by few years more and these women did nothing of worth when compared to those men.

[–]ee4m -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

This is capitalist, Orwellian propaganda.

You are saying producing and feeding more wage slaves has no worth and being a wage slave is what has worth.

The right argument is lower retiring age for men and for the rich to stop stealing our pensions.

[–]perplexedm 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (24 children) | Copy Link

This is capitalist Orwellian propaganda.

I don't identify with any 'ism', 'ist' kind of stupid labels.

You are saying producing and feeding more more wage slaves has now worth.

I only stated the opinion of a well known economist.

My concern is how women appeasing society /govts are digging it's own troubles.

And probably why men as wage slaves never got enough rights as new age specially entitled and privileged womyn slaves.

Now that you edited your post:

The right argument is lower retiring age for men

No need to lower retiring age men, just because women are not capable enough to work like men. This feminasty argument everywhere, synonymous with wage gap fallacy.

and for the rich to stop stealing our pensions.

And society should also ensure pensions goes to those you actually deserve it than gold diggers.

[–]ee4m -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I don't identify with any 'ism', 'ist' kind of stupid labels.

Yet you said something ideological, dogmatic and irrational.

I only stated the opinion of a well known economist.

Someone indoctrinated in an education system. Who is it?

My concern is how women appeasing society /govts are digging it's own troubles.

The main trouble is the massive wealth inequality that has opened up in the neoliberal system and the rich stealing pensions and public services.

Sorry I dont intend to be so blunt / rude.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

Yet you said something ideological, dogmatic and irrational.

No, I stated a practical real world fact opined by a famous economist called Marc Faber.

I'm not into conspiracy bullshit. I'm here to support men's rights.

[–]ee4m -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

Im not into conspiracy either.

The wealth inequality that has opened up since the beginning of the neoliberal movement is well documented, by multiple economists.

The privitisation, austerity measures, banker bailouts, extending working life, cutting pensions.

Its all real.

This idea that only being a wage slave has worth is nonsense.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Its all real.

So is pensions going to multiple gold diggers who outlive their husbands for years.

It is a burden now and somebody up there noticed it.

I want everyone who deserve pensions to get it and will fight for those who deserve it.

But not to favor multiple gold diggers who try to mooch the system.

[–]ee4m -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

My concern is how women appeasing society /govts are digging it's own troubles.

Well you are looking in the wrong direction.

For men lower retirement age and better pensions is the way to be going.

Wanting to leave old women to starve to death is not a viable position.

If the very rich get less we get more - you will find real solutions there.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Wanting to leave old women to starve to death is not a viable position.

Well, those old women could've worked and saved for some pensions. You can even say, in current times, men get lesser opportunities to do so because of gender quotas, shameless pandering to womyn, etc. No one care about men in so fuzzy manner, the reason why huge majority of men are homeless, but not womyn.

If the very rich get less we get more - you will find real solutions there.

In current political scenario, if the very rich get less, commoners get far lesser. Unless a new world order take place. And the cult of feminastism is not the one.

[–]ee4m 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Identity politics is a capitalist scam designed to defeat the left. While people argue over that, the rich are getting richer and everyone else is getting poorer.

Women have been tending to use democracy more intelligently.

Men are more likely be conservative and not use democracy intelligently - siding with the super rich, campaigning for less for themselves and so on.

There is a better way.

Men taking responsibility and using their voting power to negotiate a better deal.

[–]ee4m 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Well, those old women could've worked and saved for some pensions.

What if they were busy bringing up more wage slaves who then go on to contribute to pensions?

Take this example.

If a woman works all her life and brings up no children, and another works less while bringing up three functioning wage slaves, the one that works less contributes in excess of three times more wage slavery than than the one that worked more and had no children.

[–]thrway_1000 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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