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No More Boys scouts, Just girl scouts and scouts.

Gavmipie

May 26, 2018
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-scouts-new-name-scouts-bsa-girls-joining-ranks/
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Title No More Boys scouts, Just girl scouts and scouts.
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Gavmipie

Upvotes 56
Comments 14
Date May 26, 2018 5:44 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8mbr5x/no_more_boys_scouts_just_girl_scouts_and_scouts/
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No more Boy scouts, just Scouts and Girl scouts.

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[–]dukunt 26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So men and boys lose the boy scouts and women and girls get to keep girl guides? This is fucking disgusting! I realize the girl guides sucks and that its nothing but a cookie selling scheme but they should also have to drop girls from their name and be open to accepting boys into their organization. Any boys want to join the girl guides and sell some cookies? How the hell are you going to sell that idea to boys?! Once again men are forced to give up something that is so fundamentally important to us to appease for feminists. Why couldn't they have just made girl guides better?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So men and boys lose the boy scouts and women and girls get to keep girl guides? This is fucking disgusting!

This was not imposed upon the scouts in any way. The scouts did this of their own volition to continue functioning financially after the Mormon church decided to get their distance, owing in part to the boy scouts standing up for gay boys and men. Remember that. This is the consequence from having become financially reliant on a church that just couldnt get behind the idea of standing up for people with lives they dont live. The scouts did the right thing here, and are taking action which best secures a future for an organization which has a positive effect on boys. Moreover, it allows the ethic of "scouting is for everyone" to finally be expressed with full endorsement for the first time. Nobody was forced to do anything. Nobody "lost" anything. Nothing was done to "appease" anyone. Men and boys stood up for other people, that is all. And now, they are sharing something awesome with others. Thats what men do. We lead the way. The victimhood theme youve got going on here is entirely misplaced.

[–]contexistential 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you that boys can benefit from having their own spaces, but there’s no feminist conspiracy here. This was an opportunistic move by the Boy Scouts for $$. No one wants to send their children to Girl Scouts anymore so Boy Scouts is scooping up their members and the donations and funding that come with them.

I don’t know how they plan to roll it out, but it sounds like people are confident that once the membership numbers support gender-exclusive troops this will be offered.

[–]1angrydad 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Imma need to see some data to back that up. I was a Den Leader for 4 years, we never had a shortage of membership.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

would that be before the Mormons left? Imma guess "yes."

[–]contexistential -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

BSA has been declining for years. I can’t look for a source for you right now but it’s widely published if you want to google it. I just read something about it, membership peaked around 6.5M in the late 70s and has been slowly declining since. Dont quote me on this but if I remember correctly they lost around 100k YOY between 2012-2016 and landed at around 2.3M.

Like I said, I don’t know how they are planning to roll this out, I’m just saying for the people who are against it, it’s possible that this won’t change much for the boys. The only thing I do know is that feminists didn’t push for this and the reaction has been pretty mixed. The pressure is coming from the parents. Opening the program to girls is entirely in the self interest of BSA. I saw someone else on here phrase it something like “Girl Scouts is a dying cookie factory and Boy Scouts is feasting on their remains”

[–]1angrydad 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This has happened in Australia for over a decade already, the Scouts is mixed gender but there's Girl Guides which are girls only.

I was in the Scouts a decade ago for quite a few years and it got really shitty towards the end when everyone started growing up and becoming boyfriend/girlfriend with each other, and they brought their relationship drama with them.

I would have preferred if it was gender segregated, so we can focus on activities rather than peoples gossip and other bullshit.

[–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Easy. Boys can just assume they are girls and join Girl guides

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The boy scouts are dead and I'm sure this whatever will soon follow.

Archive -- https://archive.is/ZVUVn

[–]Hwga_lurker_tw 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let me make this clear, from a parent's point of view this is a good thing. Scouts BSA and Girl Scouts are two different entities with very different ethos. The beautiful thing about the new BSA is that your boy's little/big sister can join and you only have one pick up point at the end of the day as well as an outlet for girls who don't want to sell fucking cookies. The pros outweigh the cons on this one. Maybe a little less molestation? These are life skills and outings that are unisex in regards to fun and experience and can be accommodating for both(48) sexes.

The fact that the Girl Scouts hate this should be a dead giveaway what side to be on.

[–]nascarracer99316 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is because the boy scouts were sued to allow girls in.

Then the head of the girl scouts said that they will not allow any boys to join.

Because of this the girl scouts are involved in a multibillion dollar lawsuit they have no chance of winning.

They have also forced the boy scouts to accept female troop leaders.

I am just waiting until the false accusations of sexual assault come out from both the girl scouts and female troop leaders.

The boy scouts have lost 425,000 boy scouts a week since this started.

I wonder how much money and boy scouts they are going to lose before they realize this was not a good idea.

[–]MakkusuOrvia 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Proof?

[–]MakkusuOrvia 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a Boy Scout myself I don’t really see a problem with this. They aren’t taking over our troops, merely being allowed to participate in one of the best programs for youth in the world. People treat this like its some femenist takeover, when really it’s just the opening of an opportunity for girls.

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