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Drugged Out Gym Teacher Caught With Heroin IN Gym Class Admits Raping Underage Student For Over One Year: Gets NO Prison Time

camletoejoe

March 11, 2019

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Title	Drugged Out Gym Teacher Caught With Heroin IN Gym Class Admits Raping Underage Student For Over One Year: Gets NO Prison Time
Author	camletoejoe
Upvotes	506
Comments	87
Date	March 11, 2019 8:25 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPass
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/azya3m/drugged_out_gym_teacher_caught_with_heroin_in_gym/
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well, R Kelly might be a bit of a long shot comparison given his style of threatening young women (it has been said that he would lure them into the hotel first and then they were pressured physically or something along those lines) but you are accurate in stating that teachers are in a position of power to convince the students that it is ok. A teacher being convinced by their student that it is ok is not better to me than a teacher convincing a student- they should carry the same weight of punishment IMO. The teacher has the power and the risk and they should know that in either case. The only enhancement should be if the teacher full on tried to blackmail the student and then that is a different, much worse case of rape and power abuse anyway.

As to the double standard you speak of, it has been noted that women are frequently sentenced very different from men with regards to sex with students. That, as noted in the article, has to do with inherent judicial and social bias against men in sex crimes cases- women/girls are viewed as having been convinced whereas men/boys are viewed as doing the convincing even in the way some laws are written. Women's traditional gender role leads many to think of them as less threatening whereas a man's is viewed as very threatening. Girls are far more likely to report a teacher they are engaging in sexual acts with than a boy because the social system looks out for female victims of sexual assault whereas male victims frequently encounter a more mixed reception, i.e. he may be high-fived for the "conquest" or he may be harassed for "reporting instead of enjoying". In the end, the double standard is not simply a legal phenomenon. It is rooted in a social stereotype that needs to be abolished.

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From another article:

"On April 25, students and staff at the school, located near the Tennessee border, noticed that Spencer was behaving erratically. According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution administrators escorted her to the office and then then notified authorities that Spencer seemed to be under the influence of drugs. Authorities arrived at the school and arrested her for possession of heroin."

https://people.com/crime/georgia-cheerleading-coach-sentenced-for-repeated-sex-assault-of-underage-student/

Another article said she was on the track during practice when the students noticed her "erratic behavior" and notified administrators who then called the police. I feel bad for her, but this double standard shit has to come to have some light on it. At least she has to register I guess. Its not a total pass..

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So you don’t think a 17 year old kid is capable of handling the psychological effects of sex?

The person that breaches the trust of their job like this should lose their job. Criminally liable? To what end? It obviously doesn’t curb the behavior, and to say a 16 or 17 year old isn’t mentally capable of consenting is laughable.

Let me ask this. In a modern America where everyone wants to commute and reduce sentences for non violent offenders, why should we support jailing someone for having sex? I mean, if they’re getting it on with prepubescent children that’s one thing, but a teenager that’s capable of holding a job and driving a car is plenty capable of consent. Why should we clog prisons and jails with people who have sex with other people who are 6-7 months shy of being 18? Many don’t support jail for drug possession, and in this case she had heroine. Which is a bigger threat to society, the fact that she had sex with a student, or heroine?

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So you don’t think a 17 year old kid is capable of handling the psychological effects of sex?

I think a 17 year old is susceptible to a person of power manipulating them into dangerous and bad choices, yes.

Criminally liable? To what end?

Deterrence. You know, the intent of our criminal justice system.

It obviously doesn’t curb the behavior

Because you say so?

to say a 16 or 17 year old isn’t mentally capable of consenting is laughable

Ok armchair psychologist.

Let me ask this. In a modern America where everyone wants to commute and reduce sentences for non violent offenders, why should we support jailing someone for having sex?

It isn't illegal for 17 year olds to have sex. It is illegal for adults, particularly those in power of influence, to have sex with them This isn't hard so I'm not quite sure what you're struggling with. Just trying to recast what we're talking about to make your position seem more reasonable?

a teenager that’s capable of holding a job and driving a car is plenty capable of consent.

It is also illegal to coerce an employee into sex, or for police officers to use intimidation to get sexual favors. Weird how those abuses of power don't seem to hit your radar, but the one diddling teenagers is a-ok.

Why should we clog prisons and jails with people who have sex with other people who are 6-7 months shy of being 18?

If you want to make the age of majority 17.5, then fine, that's your argument. Something tells me some idiot will then be arguing "What's the difference between 17 and 17.5!?!"

Many don’t support jail for drug possession, and in this case she had heroine. Which is a bigger threat to society, the fact that she had sex with a student, or heroine?

So now you want me defending other people's opinions?

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Far away? Depends. It certainly doesn't mean inaccessible. Prison inmates can easily correspond with email, collect calls, and scheduled visitation. Some facilities are even adopting tablets with cameras so that inmates can interact with their families and friends through Skype-like video calls.

You can't even have face to face visits in jail unless you've been there at least 30 days. You can also make money in prison, whereas jail offers a very expensive Work Release program which only applies to low risk charges.

DOC sentences can be a short duration -- even just a couple months. That is the contrast that I was arguing since you mentioned "90 days in jail." If I had to serve 90 days with those two options, then it'd be in a low or medium security prison. Keep to yourself and don't flex, and you won't have any problems.

I've seen my fair share of both, so this is a somewhat educated inference. Of course, your mileage will vary.

Anyways, I apologize for being rude in my first post. It was uncalled for.

My main point is that criminals serving time at DOC have it way too easy. It's almost comfortable living.

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