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USA Today’s opinion article titled “High school boys had better learn to compete with girls in athletics,” written by a woman about a boy who refused to wrestle girls

derkam

March 4, 2019
60 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://usatodayhss.com/2019/opinion-high-school-boys-had-better-learn-to-compete-with-girls-in-athletics
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Title USA Today’s opinion article titled “High school boys had better learn to compete with girls in athletics,” written by a woman about a boy who refused to wrestle girls
Author

derkam

Upvotes 60
Comments 29
Date March 4, 2019 2:07 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ax7hz5/usa_todays_opinion_article_titled_high_school/
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Comments

[–]goodmod 46 points47 points48 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In which case, high school girls had better learn to lose to boys in athletics.

That's what she meant, right?

[–]RunawayGrain 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And then they will re-write the rules to punish the boys for being competitive.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being competitive is a sign of Toxic Masculinity... dontcha know.

/sarcasm

[–]Guatemalanwatersnake 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Umm, even the best female athletes on the planet get destroyed by high school aged boys; there is no competition and it’s kind of cruel to put boys and girls in that situation.

[–]Ashenox 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget that a ton of Female competition medals are currently held by M to F transgender.

[–]Guatemalanwatersnake 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A girl in Texas won the State wrestling championship after taking testosterone and claiming to be a boy; she never got to actually compete against boys.

[–]TirNahOige 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to emphasize the “got to” the ftm wanted to wrestle boys but wasn’t allowed by the school district.

[–]omegaphallic 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Teach boys not to hit girls even in self defence, but also force them to competitively wrestle them. Chaos and confusion.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a very good point.

They are both competitors and a protected class simultaneously.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Competing with a woman for a promotion that you both want, and engaging in what is essentially hand-to-hand combat with a woman, are two COMPLETELY different things. A boy has every right in the world to decide, for WHATEVER reason he wants, that he doesn't want to wrestle a girl. Boy, and these women won't shut up about consent and the right to not give it.

[–]Daddie013 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

For those who are still having trouble with that concept, it might be time to figure out why. Is it really because these young gentlemen are worried about how they are treating a “young lady?” Or is it something else?

On a flight a year ago, I happened to sit next to the father of two male high school wrestlers who told me over the course of a conversation about high school sports that his sons had both forfeited matches rather than wrestle against a girl.

I asked why. He mentioned religion and treating girls and women the right way, and then he said this:

“Can you imagine what it would be like for a boy to lose to a girl?”

Ah-ha. Now we were getting somewhere.

“Have you ever thought about what it’s like for a girl to lose to a boy?” I replied.

We ended up agreeing that no one likes to lose.

​

Again we are putting boys / males in a no win situation.

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If he chooses to wrestle her...

and wins, then it's because he has an unfair advantage of more muscle mass. She gets hurt? Now he is an asshole for being too aggressive.

What happens if he touches or grabs her chest or between her legs? Is he going to be watched like a hawk to make sure he isn't sexually assulting her. Because I can see this coming from a mile away.

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If he does wrestler her and loses respectively? What do you think he will put up with from both men and women? You lost to a girl?! So now some women, and some men are going to gloat, take shots at his masculinity, and emasculate him on top of it.

IMO males and females do not belong completing against each other.

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I have a friend on FB, her daughters play competitive hockey on boys teams. She got pissed this past weekend when a father on the other team said about putting her daughter through the boards.

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[–]themolestedsliver 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

exactly. I wrestled in highschool in an all boy team and we hated getting matched with girls for our weight class. It was as you said, if the boy "won" there would be considerably less cheers and half the pinning moves we learned to do became really awkward because it involved running our hand across their chest or between their legs at times. And not even that, you are losing and can't see so you try to grab something and oh look you are groping her. This not considering being teen boys and being close to a girl causing a boner to spring up which makes things awkward as fuck.

[–]user_miki 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Girls have no idea what means a real fight.Men hold back a lot of their strength(sometimes unconsciously)when get physical with women.I would like to see a match though in tennis between Serena and one man from bottom level in ATP.She will be pulverized.

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[–]jak_22 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would like to see a match though in tennis between Serena and one man from bottom level in ATP.She will be pulverized.

Oh boy do I have a treat for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters

Read it and weep XD

[–]perplexedm 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls have no idea what means a real fight.

They know it very well. The next step is creating some handicap for boys fighting with girls that the fight is more favoring girls. Going further they will not let boys win one way or other, that is femcrazy method to solve toxic masculinity.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really enjoy videos where men beat up women. Not unprovoked, but after she takes a swing.

So much fantasy from aggressive women about their physical ability. They get up in men’s faces like yapping dogs, confident in their ability to slap and spit and demean all with the knowledge that if he responds it will be other men to come and take him away.

The overwhelming majority of women have never been really manhandled in their lives. Even if they have been forcibly raped they still haven’t faced a man trying to seriously hurt or kill them.

It’s a beautiful thing to see when it happens. The average woman is out in seconds.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminists message to High School Boys; "Damned if you do and damned if you don't."

[–]chadwickofwv 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No the message is

Fuck you, you're disposable!

[–]IronJohnMRA 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Learn means, "Engage in the fantasy that girls are your superiors, and pretend to fear them".

[–]user_miki 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Women never experienced and most of them never have seen a real fight between men.It is savage, pure violence unleashed.Imagine a real scene with women to fight with.It can be the most powerful women in the world.She stand no chance with an average fighter.Or a common street fighter.

I've seem many scenes in video with men beating women(she attacked first).He restrained himself a lot to not release full blows.In a wrestling fight with women in championship if he released himself full potential will be crucified by all people.That forfeit was a smart move for his future.

[–]bhullj11 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls should not be competing against boys in combat sports. This article is shameful.

[–]1LegendaryWombat 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah i read that a couple days ago, he didn't want to wrestle girls because of the perceived intimacy and violence, which, okay, fair enough i guess. Still, i didn't hear a single word of complaint the girls just get free passes for being girls, or a replacement match or something.

[–]DignifiedAlpaca 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Given that he forfeited, the girl was declared the victor. So really she ended up better off than him.

[–]JamesBCrazy 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There have been stupid opinion articles for decades. I don't think anyone is taking that woman seriously.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He had to wrestle a girl in the state championships... it's being taken seriously.

[–]__pulsar 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On a flight a year ago, I happened to sit next to the father of two male high school wrestlers who told me over the course of a conversation about high school sports that his sons had both forfeited matches rather than wrestle against a girl. I asked why. He mentioned religion and treating girls and women the right way, and then he said this: “Can you imagine what it would be like for a boy to lose to a girl?” Ah-ha. Now we were getting somewhere. “Have you ever thought about what it’s like for a girl to lose to a boy?” I replied. We ended up agreeing that no one likes to lose.

r/thathappened

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The top 10% of female altheles will beat the bottom 10% of male altheles.

[–]__pulsar 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More like the top ~3%, if that.

[–]superprez 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well both Williams sisters couldn't beat a male player ranked 203rd, so those numbers sound extremely optimistic/generous.

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