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Mom murdered young son. Got away with it for 30 years because people just believe women.

BarefootUnicorn

February 13, 2019
130 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/02/12/three-decades-ago-she-begged-her-year-olds-safe-return-shes-just-been-charged-with-his-murder/?utm_term=.e5fd429cdbf0
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Title Mom murdered young son. Got away with it for 30 years because people just believe women.
Author

BarefootUnicorn

Upvotes 130
Comments 15
Date February 13, 2019 2:07 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/aq6xas/mom_murdered_young_son_got_away_with_it_for_30/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mom-murdered-young-son-got-away-with-it-for-30.1181652
https://theredarchive.com/post/1181652
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Comments

[–]Causeless 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There wasn't sufficient evidence to convict her initially. I don't see that issue with that, and this most certainly is not any sort of female privilege.

“I’d like to tell you right now that we have a smoking gun,” Wiese said. “We’d love to have the body of Francillon, or DNA evidence that proves something. That’s not what this case is. This is a case of a lot of little things, that put together, gives us the knowledge that Amy Fleming was involved in the homicide of her child.”

Then they found letters, later, when reopening the case, which had small implications that she may be guilty, and so now they are charging her.

This is nothing about men's rights, nothing about believing women. This is the criminal justice system working as intended, with somebody not being punished for something that could not be proven.

If we want a fair justice system for men accused of rape, it should also be fair for women accused of murder.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, same reason so many rape cases go through without much of a trial.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I am old-testament type of christians, if there are proofs that she did: death penalty for her.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

...because murder is ok when the government does it?

[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

death penalty is not murder. Its a case of culling a dangerous animal , and removing it out of a normal society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is the death penalty pre-meditated?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

This is justice. An effiminated mind cannot understand this.

Eye for eye, teeth for a teeth. One of the greatest law of all time.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An effiminated mind cannot understand this.

LOL

Anyway, is it possible that the Old Testament was replaced with the kinder, gentler New Testament because the barbarism of the Old Testament was falling out of favor with the masses. That it's a book written to control the masses and therefore has to be adjusted and re-interpreted over time?

[–]DownrightCaterpillar 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Lmao this is so retarded. One guy loses an eye and is crippled for life? How about... TWO guys crippled for life! What a fantastic idea dude.

From the perspective of someone who wasn't a part of that eye-destroying incident, I don't see why doubling the injury is a logical decision from a societal perspective. But feel free to use your masculine logic to explain that one.

[–]Mackowatosc -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sure, no problem with explaining: diplomatic rule of equal response. You fucked me over? I'll fuck you over. Its simple, and effective.

As for law - if you want it to be just, it must be cruel.

[–]DownrightCaterpillar 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

diplomatic rule of equal response. You fucked me over? I'll fuck you over. Its simple, and effective.

As for law - if you want it to be just, it must be cruel.

Literally none of what you just said is logical, it's 100% opinion. The goals of a criminal justice system are centered around what's best for society, not gratification for each individual victim. That is not because victims don't matter, it's because policy is made by people who represent a great number of constituents, the vast majority of whom are not victims and never will be.

Excessively cruel punishments for all crimes actually result in people committing more violent crimes because the punishments for minor crimes are already so bad, might as well just do something more violent but more profitable or gratifying. I'll give you two sources:

  1. NIJ's summary of the efficacy of punishments: https://nij.gov/five-things/Pages/deterrence.aspx
  2. DOJ's study of deterrence in juveniles: https://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/248617.pdf

[–]hoaobrook73 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You might want to read the source of "eye for an eye" because it's not what you think. Hint: it's in the aforementioned old testament.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

are you fucking for real mate? lmfao

"Yeah I realize you hit that drunk with your car by accident and killed him, but the law's the law... Electric chair for you buddy"

[–]DoctorKnockboots1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That's manslaughter, not murder.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eye for an eye doesn't account for motive, just result.

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