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Why casual sex is declining among young adults, according to scientists "the #MeToo movement has begun inhibiting presumably voluntary casual sexual encounters between young women and men"

furchfur

March 25, 2021
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/r/MensRights
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/casual-sex-declining-young-adults-101247732.html
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Title Why casual sex is declining among young adults, according to scientists "the #MeToo movement has begun inhibiting presumably voluntary casual sexual encounters between young women and men"
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furchfur

Upvotes 81
Comments 24
Date March 25, 2021 11:58 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]DarkMage11 57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I would say that the #metoo movement is one of the biggest reasons that casual sex is going down. No man wants to risk having sex with a woman and then getting arrested because the woman had regrets and said she was raped. We live in a society where men are guilty until proven innocent. And even without evidence, you are still guilty.

[–]jonnyhaldane 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably it’s a combination of metoo and dating apps, which massively favour women.

A woman who is a 6 can fuck a guy who is a 9 or 10 on tinder because the guy just wants an easy lay 3 times a week instead of dealing with some princess playing hard to get.

That means the top 10% of guys are getting all the attention from chicks on there while the normal guys are in tumbleweed central.

Meanwhile hypergamy is a thing and there are zero women who are 9s or 10s who are dating guys who are 6s off tinder.

(FWIW I hate reducing men or women to numbers, but it’s just easier for the sake of writing this stuff on my smartphone)

[–]RelevantAlfalfa-1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree and I don't. While there are many cases of women framing men, there are many MORE women who have suffered sexual harrassment. Abuse against females is a rampant issue. The MeToo is an outburst of anger that us females have suffered over years and MEN ARE RESPONSIBLE for this. Please do not dismiss this while writing your statement. Yes, it is extremely wrong for a man to be framed and today's society, but there are many cases where a women does not get justice for getting sexually harassed and this is horrible. It disgusts me as to how men are not talking about this; your writing just makes it sound like women are the problem. We are not dimissing male rights- when we talk about the MeToo movement please stand up for females because members of your community-males- have abused us. I completely stand for male rights but it disgusts me, and honestly scares me, how men just simply dismiss behaviour towards the vast majority of females by exemplifying some shameless women who have framed men. All over this subreddit I saw so many posts of problems men face, but very little of problems men have caused. PLEASE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY- NOTHING CAN TAKE AWAY THE FACT THAT MEN CAUSED ME TOO. I do not deny men face problems and I ask you to acknowledge problems, females face, that are caused by men. We are still struggling for rights in a patriarchy established millenia ago. Yes, males struggle as well but females are more vulnerable and exposed to this because it is a PATRIARCHY. We are still struggling for basic rights such as equal pay, and basic protections from sexual harassment. It almost sounds as if you are denying any part in this; please even just mention this in your post. It is not all men that are the problem yet it is. You, as a male, might not have sexually harassed someone but by not speaking against it are endorsing it. This causal behaviour amongst men is equally responsible in dismissing female strugggles and, in fact, increases harassment by males; that we are "drama queens"; that this problem is not real and sexual harassment is not a thing! This is a long rant but your syntax seems so cool and casual- as if women have led to the problem. No, bro! Grow up! Take some responsiblity. If you say men are struggling for rights you also need to acknowledge how females struggle otherwise that is just pure hypocrisy!

[+]ObviousObservationz -52 points-51 points-50 points 5 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

True. Men are out there thinking it's a bad idea to sleep with intoxicated women or women that haven't given verbal consent.

But wasn't that the point of the meeToo movement?

Won't there be less bad situations for men and women now? Is this bad?

Edit: I think less men being accused of rape and less women feeling taken advantage of is a good thing. I can't imagine why people feel it's bad.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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But wasn't that the point of the meeToo movement?

At best, it was about not taking sexual advantage of women knowingly. It has been twisted, turned and bent out of shape since a few days after its inception. Sleeping without explicit verbal consent or sleeping with intoxicated women on its own is not the same as premeditating taking sexual advantage of women. The latter, in more twisted terms, can be seen as giving women plausible deniability to void any responsibility they may have (see "we were both drunk, but she is the victim and I'm the perpetrator" cases).

Won't there be less bad situations for men and women now?

This has yet to be proven. Again, not much after the whole MeToo events, women started complaining about lack of mentorship since men didn't want to mentor women without a third person around, and many even went out of their way to avoid mentoring women altogether. Companies without legal obligations started avoiding women as a way to avoid any of these events potentially happening. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

I think less men being accused of rape and less women feeling taken advantage of is a good thing.

Moving the goalpost. Nobody here would claim the opposite. Yet you can't place this point in its own vacuum and call it a day. Many young men go sexless through their lives, and it has noticeable effects on society. Despite sexlessness being on the rise, we see reports of false accusations and men being demonized for being men more and more (no, this doesn't mean it is actually happening, but there is still the case of the agenda-setting theory, as well as being called a monster on a daily basis being a shit way to raise children).

Don't be coy or naïve about this.

[–]d_nijmegen 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh fuck off you backhanded troll. Every single time someone makes a point you spin it in the women's interests.

You don't support men at all!

Women want sex, men are scared to have it because they have a weak legal position. It's a problem for women too if men pull away

[–]ShortTailBoa 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Women who are too fucking stupid to say no or fight back?

Yeah, I'm glad we've threatened the survival of our species with declining birthrates thanks to those absolute fucking retards.

[+]ObviousObservationz -17 points-16 points-15 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If you think less casual sex between strangers at frat houses threatens the survival of the species...you may be overreacting a little bit.

And class up. Calling people retards is for 14 year olds. Society is more civilized than that now.

[–]d_nijmegen 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Teaching young men to regard women as a treat and their desire to be with them suspicious at least. It will definitely result in problems down the line. We see this in the vilification of men in the media. Men control their commitment, if they don't commit to a woman. She's also negatively affected

[+]ObviousObservationz -18 points-17 points-16 points 5 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

The dangers of casual sex for men and womem is a reason TO commit. Not a reason not to.

[–]d_nijmegen 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The dangers of consentual casual sex should not include undeserved prison time and defamation.

That's the subject. Men don't feel safe with women like this. That's the problem.

[–]ObviousObservationz -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Right so protect yourself and don't sleep with really drunk women or women that you aren't sure want to be in the situation they are in.

Seems like pretty good advice to me.

It's not all women. But it's some and so avoid those situations altogether.

Men and women will both be happier with clear consent. Not being able to sleep with really drunk people should not be seen as a disadvantage.

[–]d_nijmegen 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

We're not talking about drunk unsure women. We're talking about women who retroactively decide how they felt yesterday and hang you to dry for rape.

[–]ObviousObservationz -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Those people suck. And if you want to be afraid of all women because of those people...thats on you.

Although isn't you're stance that fearing all women based on a few a form of bigotry?

Do you think the men avoiding sex with all women for fear if false allegations are bigots?

I certainly don't. But I'm curious if you do.

[–]Apocalypse_and_chill 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ur truly retarded

[–]d_nijmegen 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think most guys are dumb for still doing it. Women think they have all the power. Until they want something and you say, NO!

[–]yflhx 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Guess who's at fault? Computer games.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wat

[+]FussRoDa -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is definitely 100% not it. Sure the MeToo movement is a small annoyance but the main causes of casual sex declining go far deeper. I'd say a significantly bigger reason would be the rise of the smartphone causing overall real life interactions going down.

People just don't go out as much as they used to. How often have you personally thought "hey I shouldn't talk to this girl cause I might get canceled." I hope for the majority of you it's never because we're not CREEPS about it

[–]higgs456 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The guys I talk to are mostly on board when I've said I'm out of the casual sex game with the narratives going on these days around guys. I'm in a committed relationship now thank God and got out when the getting was good, but post-2018 there is a 0% chance I'm banging a woman who is obviously feminist no matter how casual and I'm vetting closely any woman in my life professionally, acquaintances, or friends of friends before even daring to talk about sexual topics or engaging in raunchy jokes. Like, it's not just sex I'll no longer do casually, but I won't even talk about sex casually for fear of a misunderstanding.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How often have you personally thought "hey I shouldn't talk to this girl cause I might get canceled." I hope for the majority of you it's never because we're not CREEPS about it

You think it makes you a creep to worry that you might be wrongfully accused? Oooooookay.

[–]FussRoDa -3 points-2 points-1 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not what I said at all. I said most of us shouldn't be worried because we're not creeps and don't do creepy shit to girls

[–]NewGTGuy 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m so glad I’m married to a cool chick! There are so few non-brainwashed women left it seems.

Anyone ever have a bad date? Ever lean in for a kiss to get rejected? That’s all it used to be. Now, these crazies can claim sexual assault and ruin a career. The world has lost its mind!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody fucks down

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