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Who Was the First Feminist? | A Mythological Perspective

PeterWrightMGTOW

October 15, 2020
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Title Who Was the First Feminist? | A Mythological Perspective
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PeterWrightMGTOW

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Date October 15, 2020 5:03 AM UTC
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[–]ComprehensiveMGTOW 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

I would argue Eve, as she rejected the authority of God and her Husband, in order to exercise her own authority in disobeying them and eating the forbidden fruit.

She then forced her new rebellion onto Adam by making him eat the forbidden fruit.

[–]AliDosentNeedDawah0 points 5 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

A) That is if the Bible is to be held as something that has credibility. Which it doesn't. In contrast, the Quran narrates the same story without blaming Eve, and is alot more credible. B) I don't think rejecting the authority of God or anyone should make you a feminist, but since this is what is enforced in contemporary feminism I totally get where you are coming from

[–]eugene_barjamel 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

technically, Adam have a lot more problems in the initial text. He is cursed by God himself, must work hard to fulfill his needs and the needs of his family because he chose his own wife instead of god, blame him. However, if you add the beliefs of many rabbins, this is really ridiculous. Eve became the root of evil because of the distorted views of misogynistic religious people. In other hand, Adam is praised though he sinned like Eve. When I read the Genesis, I feel I can blame more Adam as he had more experience than his wife :(

[–]AliDosentNeedDawah1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Indeed, again comes down to the very scripture. The Bible that the Christians claim is Word from God seems very misogynist and with no contextual and satisfactory rebuttal to it.

In the Quran they both are held accountable equally, and it was Satan who decieved them both, not Eve.

[–]eugene_barjamel 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not saying that christians are cleaned. I'm saying that original scriptures and their interpretations are not the same (I won't debate about misogyny in Bible because I'm not motivated enough).

[–]AIMLESS_ASSASSIAN 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No one cares what a muslim thinks of the Bible besides dont that religion claim one of your kind can get 7 virgins if he destroys himself and your religion claims to support men having 4 wives so if there is any one that should stfu its you .Nothing about the Bible is misognist if fact your probably just another stupid feminist trying to make Eve the victim when she was not .

[–]AliDosentNeedDawah1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

I can't decide which of your statements is the most interesting, but your last statement stands out. If I'm just another stupid feminist then verily, you seem to be a misogynist to me.

31 Corinthians 14:35 Women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church.

1 Timothy 2:11-12 A woman must receive instruction silently and under complete control. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. She must be quiet.

Exodus 21:7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do. (Daughters can be enslaved, but apparently sons are left out)

Thus the Bible is misogynist.

2 Samuel 24:1 "The Lord’s anger against Israel flared again, and he incited David against them: “Go, take a census of Israel and Judah."

Vs

1 chronicles 21:1 "A satan rose up against Israel, and he incited David to take a census of Israel." (God is Satan. Okay....)

2 Samuel 10:18 "But the Arameans fled before Israel, and David killed seven hundred of their chariot fighters and forty thousand of their foot soldiers. He struck down Shobach, commander of the army, and he died on the field."

Vs

1 Chronicles 19:18 "But the Arameans fled before Israel, and David killed seven thousand of their chariot fighters and forty thousand of their foot soldiers; he also put to death Shophach, the commander of the army." (That's a mistake of no less than 6300 foot soldiers)

1 Kings 7:26 "It was a handbreadth thick, and its brim resembled that of a cup, being lily-shaped. Its capacity was two thousand baths."

Vs

2 Chronicles 4:5 "It was a handbreadth thick, and its brim resembled that of a cup, being lily-shaped. It had a capacity of three thousand baths ."

2 Chronicles 9:25 "Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses, chariots, and twelve thousand horses; these he allocated among the chariot cities and to the king’s service in Jerusalem."

Vs

1 King 4:26: "Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen." (That is a mistake 38,000 stalls)

I have 100+ contradictions, but I'll save you your grace.

Don't Christians claim that the authors of the Bible were inspired by God? Then why did God tell some author one thing, and another thing to another? Why did he lie to some authors? Why did he allow errors?

Thus, the Bible is flawed. So the story of Adam and Eve shouldn't be taken seriously in the Bible.

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[–]AIMLESS_ASSASSIAN 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I will repeat you come off like just another stupid Feminist cultist and from your comment your a misandrist trying to hate on Men or anything that goes against the deluded teaches they feed you in people in your cult .

Your book tells you to slaughter yourselves to get 7 fresh virgins and you support men having 4 wives your religion is not worth me picking apart because I and many people dont care too you practice sharia law and cutting disgusting body parts of women off shut up Muslim .

You shouldn't be talking go take your silly cult hobby mantra back to feminist subs where it belongs with the other stupid hobbies those people practice when they are bored .

Adam should've known better than to expect much better from Eve

[–]AliDosentNeedDawah1 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Alright homie you asked for it. Tell me where does the Quran say to "slaughter" ourselves to get "7 fresh virgins". And I never said I supported men having 4 wives, in Islam it is a restriction, but perhaps you support men have 300 wives like Solomon in your Bible. But let's expose your lies now. Tell me were the Quran tell Muslims to cut women's body parts off.

Secondly, you are even more toxic than the feminists when it comes to committing the Black and White fallacy. If someone doesn't accept a story from a flawed book, that is so full of errors, they are automatically a feminist. No mate, they use their brain and don't put their full trust in a extremely unreliable source. You Christians have absolutely no grounds to believe that the Bible is inerrant and even fully from God (ironically it is only the muslims part from Christians testify that Jesus existed, or you would've lost that too). Yet you treat it as something that is superior to all reason and logic. Harry Potter has less contradictions than the Bible, and thus is more credible.

And this subreddit isn't for misogynists like you either. You are the reason why feminists exist in the first place.

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[–]AIMLESS_ASSASSIAN 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Muslim practice sharia law ,Muslim are taught to bomb themselves to get 7 fresh virgins ,muslim cut up the hole of girls ,gential female mutilation (where the muslims chop up the woman clit like sausages)

Muslim lands is normally very dangerous unlike Christian land which is more peaceful . Alot Muslims are raised to become future bombers and sharia law practice's they chop up women vagina disgusting bits you dont even know your own religion your religion is why some of the muslim countries are always fighting wars .

The feminist cultist is for bored women who are on its period looking for a way to vent and whine dont take those jokers too seriously they are not themselves when they are angry .

Misandrists like you are bad for the propaganda the feminists are trying to push

[–]AIMLESS_ASSASSIAN 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol what rubbish Adam only fault was expecting anything better from Eve in this day an age the Eve types and her stupid feminists descendents are still troublesome to modern society and your right Adam should have priortised his God over Eve (she wasn't ever worth it anyway ) Eve is a deceptive woman and its not misogynistic to call it out dont let the foolish dumb cunts named feminists distort your view of reality , Feminists are nothing but nagging privileged fools be better man .

If Adam knew better he should've not trusted someone like Eve she took advantage of Adam trust Eve acted as a bad wife , maybe a capable man would've been better besides Adam was better off without Eve and the world was a happier place and their is nothing Misogynistic about the Bible dont let the feminists cunts win be better man dont fall for their tricks be a smarter man .

[–]ComprehensiveMGTOW 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess my is more so that she rejected and usurped the authority of Adam, as God had authority over Adam, and Adam had authority over Eve.

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[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A) That is if the Bible is to be held as something that has credibility. Which it doesn't. In contrast, the Quran narrates the same story without blaming Eve, and is alot more credible.

Say what?

What does credible mean when recounting religious mythology?

[–]AliDosentNeedDawah0 points 5 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not just talking about religious mythology, I'm talking about the consistent credibility of the text which leads to deductive conclusions that certain unverifiable claims have a higher chance of being true. How is the Quran credible? Well a) it is inerrant b) it's challenges have not been falsified for e.g finding contextual contradictions in the Quran, producing a work like it which should conform to its quantifiable nature c) precise predictions in the Quran that have come true and so on.

My main point is not to prove the Quran right, however, it is to prove the fact that consistency in truth can make a deductive conclusion that there is a higher probability that the other things are true as well.

An analogy could be that if a fortune teller accurately predicts my future, than I am more likely to believe them on their other claims.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm not just talking about religious mythology,

Both the Koran and the KJV recount the same myth of Adam and Eve do they not?

I'm not going to get into a religious argument here, but I should imagine that any follower of Islam would have the same faith in the Koran as Christians have in the Bible, and for exactly the same reason.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its something I'm NOT dying to know.

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