How is this fair

teryn2012 · 2020-08-01T23:52:34+00:00

6 months for every year the child was alive

yoitsericc · 2020-08-01T21:31:57+00:00

It's not, and that's why this movement exists and needs to be recognized.

As long as there are separate justice systems for men and women, no man has the right to a fair trial.

korea0rbust · 2020-08-01T23:14:45+00:00

Are you cherry picking examples in order to make your point? Is this really an example of men being treated differently than women or is it an example of drug crimes getting harsher sentences than crimes against children?

I have noticed for decades that sentences for crimes against children are often shockingly inadequate. All kinds of rape and murder of children often gets just a slap on the wrist and a short sentence allowing the perpetrators back on the street in a matter of days, months, or years.

I am a crime buff and there have been many, many times that I have seen cases where a child rapist, kidnapper, and/or murderer turns out to have had prior convictions of a similar nature.

There are a lot of people who think that sort of thing is just no big deal and the kids will just get over it or even claim the children enjoy it. We are failing as a society to protect the children.

What we have here is a real problem that our justice system is misprioritizing what crimes deserve the more serious sentencing.

Here are some opposite examples of yours:

https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/women-drug-war

From the article: "Women are now a fast growing segment of the U.S. prison population, largely because of draconian drug laws. More than 61% of women doing time in federal prison are behind bars for nonviolent drug offenses."

"Harsh mandatory minimum sentencing may keep them behind bars for 20 years, 30 years, or life, even if they were never directly involved in drug sales or distribution."

versus

https://www.denverpost.com/2012/11/14/short-on-justice-penalties-for-child-deaths-less-severe-than-for-adults-in-colorado/

From the article: "At the other end of that spectrum, a Montezuma County man was sentenced to 90 days in September for killing his infant daughter."

Lendari · 2020-08-02T08:00:44+00:00

America's "war on drugs" is a terrible government-industrial complex that appears at it core to be driven by racism and perverse incentives. The net result is that over the last 30 or 40 years, America has imprisoned more individuals than every other nation on earth combined and created a business out of systematically imprisoning black and poor men. Despite this effort, America still faces major societal issues with mental health care, addiction and drug overdose suggesting that the entire effort has largely failed and is simply not something that can be effectively controlled through pure law enforcement alone. This is actually a racial and human rights issue that is substantially larger than than the boys vs. girls stuff we talk about here.

With that said. Men are sentenced more harshly than women for the same crimes. Especially when the crimes involve infanticide or sexual misconduct. This is a fact. If you want to make a valid argument about this, you need to control for all the variables. This meme just doesn't do that very well. Comparing infanticide to organized drug crime really isn't apples to apples. Yes they have different sentences. Because they are different crimes. Find a man and a woman who both killed a 2 year old. Preferably with similar motives and circumstances. Then you will develop a valid argument that stands up to scrutiny.

japanese-bo1 · 2020-08-02T09:02:02+00:00

i did some research and depending on the country a man would have gotten up to 25 years

also i think women can kill their babies in some countries with minimal repercussions depending on the age of the baby (i believe below 12 months)

Bigboycoc · 2020-08-02T04:46:58+00:00

Off topic but just legalize the shit already. Take too much to stop it. We should just legalize it and tax it tbh

SelkoBrother · 2020-08-02T14:06:00+00:00

Well for the dude I can understand if the picture is true and that is Marijuana. That's a lot. But only 1 year for her???

Mackdude15 · 2020-08-02T17:07:24+00:00

Because feminism

insinc01 · 2020-08-02T23:23:09+00:00

It's not but I think this problem is caused by feminists going too far but it could also just be the judge is a dumb a$$ or where they live none the less this isn't fair at all.

LittleLoli_Throwaway · 2020-08-03T06:50:45+00:00

I mean. This is just a headline we don't know the details of the case. I'm willing to wager the top one is just expressing what the maximum penalty is for his crimes. Chances as this was some kind of cartel or gang connected person and is probably facing multiple charges and have a prior record, illegal firearms possession, resisting arrest, felony eluding, etc. And when you get arrested in possession of an illegal firearm you are exempt from serving your sentences for each individual crime consecutively.

While the bottom one is probably an accidental death (manslaughter) and the outlet is using the term "killing" to attract attention. I'm sure she didn't drown or stab her baby. Not excusing what she did she should face a harsher punishment.

There is female favoring in the legal system but this is just not a good example. There's too many variable differences.

thefudmaster · 2020-08-02T02:48:20+00:00

The issue is that the war on drugs is a lost cause. In a lot of states, you will spend more time in prison for drugs and you would for manslaughter. It’s no surprise that women get less jail time. This needs to change.

Idooogamers · 2020-08-02T12:52:36+00:00

It isn't

omtomatoes · 2020-08-03T15:37:29+00:00

Yes, there is an issue with the law but it is not a man\woman situation its marijuana\murder issue.

How is this fair

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