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Teenage transgender row splits Sweden as dysphoria diagnoses soar by 1,500%

TheAndredal

July 11, 2020
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Title Teenage transgender row splits Sweden as dysphoria diagnoses soar by 1,500%
Author

TheAndredal

Upvotes 10
Comments 17
Date July 11, 2020 9:57 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hp7ix4/teenage_transgender_row_splits_sweden_as/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/teenage-transgender-row-splits-sweden-as-dysphoria.1196767
https://theredarchive.com/post/1196767
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Comments

[–]The-beat-man 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

so where the the spammers that like to spam this reddit claiming transgender ideology(which harms children the most and lead to stripping away of father's rights) help with mens' rights? how does rapid onset gender dysphoria caused by indoctrinating children help men's rights?

[–]runner557 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

How does this strip away father's rights? I've never heard that before. The trans movement may have some issues and debate concerning hormones and surgery. But gender is almost entirely a social construct. If by father's rights you mean the right to FORCE traditionalism and rigid gender roles on your children, that's not what MRA is about. Boys should be free to be who they are and free to express themselves. They should not be punished for traditional masculine behaviors but also should not be punished if they happen to have feminine ones. Same goes for girls...

But transgenderism goes beyond that and involves deep seeded doubts concerning their biological sex. Such children who have that type of dysphoria need psychological care and attention beyond what most fathers can provide. If your son is determined to believe he's truly a girl, and all you do is beat him and tell him he's a boy, man up, and deal with it. That's not fixing anything. He's going to grow up to hate you.

[–]The-beat-man 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

(How does this strip away father's rights? I've never heard that before. The trans movement may have some issues and debate concerning hormones and surgery.)

Last week, Justice Francesca Marzari of the Supreme Court of British Columbia, Canada, declared a father guilty of “family violence” against his 14-year-old daughter on the sole basis that he had engaged in “expressions of rejection of [her] gender identity.” These “expressions” revolved entirely around his polite refusal to refer to his daughter as a boy in private, and his steady choice to affirm that she is a girl in public.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/24/father-gagged-found-guilty-family-violence-calling-trans-daughter/

(But gender is almost entirely a social construct.) The are 6500 genetic differences between mn and women sex and gender is biological

The late Dr John Money invented the idea that gender is a social construct. he also invented transgenderism and is responsible for the Suicide of David Reimer. Reimer lost his penis during a botched siurgery his parents took him to Dr Money to raise him as a girl. during his teens David found out that he was born aboy. he later commit sucide. This is what trans ideology is based on. and Dr Money was a pedophile.

(. If by father's rights you mean the right to FORCE traditionalism and rigid gender roles on your children, that's not what MRA is about. Boys should be free to be who they are and free to express themselves. They should not be punished for traditional masculine behaviors but also should not be punished if they happen to have feminine ones. Same goes for girls...)

MRA is about defending the rights of men to be free from gender voilence and descrimination based on Gender only you biology denies always bring up forced traditionalism and similar lefitst bullshit

(But transgenderism goes beyond that and involves deep seeded doubts concerning their biological sex. Such children who have that type of dysphoria need psychological care and attention beyond what most fathers can provide. If your son is determined to believe he's truly a girl, and all you do is beat him and tell him he's a boy, man up, and deal with it. That's not fixing anything. He's going to grow up to hate you.)

Transgenderism is about social engineering, brainwashing, and censorship of those who are resisting this ideology. gender dysphoria is a mental illness that requires counselling and psychiatrics treatment.

The Story of David Reimer: A Transgender Experiment

this was what your trans idieology is based on keep this shit out of the men's rights reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLFGMWoQaCU

[–]runner557 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

First off, this is not a TERF sub or a transphobic sub. Those subs are getting banned and we will be next if we start down that path.

Second, you got the whole Dr. Money situation screwed up. Reimer had a botched circumcision. But it didn't change his gender. It didn't change his identity or his likes. Money tried to force the change through social reprogramming and it didn't work. People who are transgender feel they are in the wrong body. Their identity doesn't match their body. When you have a boy that tells you he's a girl and feels like a girl and truly believes he is, and then you FORCE him to live as a boy...you are making the same error as Dr. Money. You are not allowing that child to grow and develop into who he feels he is. Instead, you are going to force him into a socially-constructed box of what you think a boy should be. That's obviously going to cause a problem.

[–]The-beat-man 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(First off, this is not a TERF sub or a transphobic sub. Those subs are getting banned and we will be next if we start down that path.)

This sub is a MENS RIGHTS sub not a sub to spam your transgender ideology. take your trans issues to a trans sub. objecting to your spam does not make one a "transphobe" a word which does not exist

(Second, you got the whole Dr. Money situation screwed up. Reimer had a botched circumcision. But it didn't change his gender. It didn't change his identity or his likes. Money tried to force the change through social reprogramming and it didn't work. People who are transgender feel they are in the wrong body. Their identity doesn't match their body. When you have a boy that tells you he's a girl and feels like a girl and truly believes he is, and then you FORCE him to live as a boy...you are making the same error as Dr. Money. You are not allowing that child to grow and develop into who he feels he is. Instead, you are going to force him into a socially-constructed box of what you think a boy should be. That's obviously going to cause a problem.)

take your transgender issue to a trans sub THIS IS A MEN'S RIGHTS SUB stop spamming this sub

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, they'll be here, I'm sure. They're probably just finishing lunch right now.

[–]d_nijmegen 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I would like your opinion guys, I had some thought about it. What would I do?

If my child came to me with feelings like this. I would first introduce them to drag culture or maybe cross dressing. I believe that many of the now trans genders don't have to go "all the way" to feel happy. A supportive group of like minded people. I think that may save a few the disappointment and regret of something that can't be undone.

Anyone have a strong opinion about this?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Frankly? I would tell them to wait a little bit, because the human brain keeps growing until one's early twenties. And children going through puberty often hate their body for a while, so having this kind of thoughts (rejecting your body) is frequent.

I think that if not having absolutely everyone catering to your thoughts leads you to suicide, you have a real mental illness, that needs therapy and not surgery, or even more tolerance, simply because universal tolerance is impossible.

[–]BulbasaurusThe7th 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also there is the fact that just because a child imagines a male/female in a certain way doesn't mean they have to fit that idea 100% to actually be a male/female.
This is something I see a bunch. Like I heard a guy talk about how his very young daughter claimed she wanted to be a man when she grew up. A bunch of very PC "tolerant" parents would have taken it at face value. Girl is trans!
Turns out she, at like age 4, loved some cartoon, I think Tangled by Disney. The male character in it had a horse she really liked and her kid brain assumed having a horse was a man thing, she didn't have one because she was a girl so she wanted to be a man to be allowed to keep a horse.

I feel like many parents just run right to these horrible mutilating, weird "treatments" instead of trying to fix the root of the issue. Like fuck, many of these kids have issues with puberty, they got molested, they got bullied for certain physical attributes, they are getting groomed online, they not involved with weird friends, etc.

[–]d_nijmegen -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

But isn't dress-up a perfect way to explore those feelings while also waiting a bit?

Also why so quick to include suicide?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Once again, if not doing exactly what an "idea" in your head tells you leads you to depression or worse, it's a disease, not a personnality trait.

I thought that kind of thoughts were called obsessive/intrusive thoughts, which are a sign of various mental illnesses.

[–]d_nijmegen -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Once again, if they have this mental illness. Woulnd it be a good coping strategy? Just a diagnosis isn't helpful on its own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not really. Because people realize someone is a certain gender, even when they try to pass as another. Most people don't give in delusions.

[–]d_nijmegen 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly my point. If they just give expression every once in a while. They can maybe function normally without having to pass.

[–]N19864 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And what academic departments did this brainwashing come from?

​

It is not a surprise that this disorder (not dysphoria), falls heavily on the gender that has a collective mentality and mainly during their teen years.

​

“It’s been a very big change and very sudden,” Romson adds. “Everyone – but especially young people – feels worse because of what they perceive as the media’s hatred of them.”

​

That's rich.

[–]iainmf -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the issues I have been thinking about recently is, if the only allowable treatment if gender affirmative treatment, then how can anyone give informed consent when they haven't been informed of other treatment options?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Heheheheheheheh.

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