Hello all, I have stagnated a bit with my game so I thought I would write about my approaches and related things with girls. Seduction is not my focus in life or anything, but I reckon it would be fun to look back on my stories and it would be useful to see what y'all think and where I went wrong. My writing will probably be shit too so please feel free to tell me how unbelievably illiterate I am and how I can improve, haha.

I also realised that I like to read these types of stories. But sometimes there are not many. The closest thing is that 5'7 pick up guy (big respect to him by the way), but that is night-game.

I encourage others to write about their approaches, since I will probably stop at some point

About myself: College student studying a STEM degree, 5'11 (don't want to be too specific for privacy reasons)

Also, I actually didn't come to this topic (seduction) due to me wanting to get girls. I actually wanted to be more social, able to talk and connect to many people. One of my friends introduced me to this topic directly. So my game is based a bit more on my ability to connect to people. I don't think about 'abundance mentality', ' push and pull', etc. explicitly, but I think that I do think about these qualities implicitly.

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Here is the link to the initial story of the approach: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/sj0025/approach_1_after_a_seminar/

In the end, we agreed to get coffee at a college coffee shop. She saw me first and I went for a hug (of course). Whilst waiting in line we talked about where we were from, languages we speak, siblings, what we had been up to, etc. General stuff. I think that the conversation was slightly jumpy, so in future I will try to flow a bit more on certain topics and let the conversation naturally change topics. It wasn't a massive thing, but I did notice that I did that.

Now, the last time I went out with a girl I barely did any kino. So I made sure to do some light kino. You know, hand on shoulder to get her attention, nudging her when telling her good jokes, but nothing major since we were in line.

Anyway, we got to the front, and it turned out that because she had already eaten she didn't want any coffee. I told her to pick what I get because I have only tried one drink. She picked the Americano, so I had that.

I said we should just walk around now that I had that coffee. She agreed, and said she'd have to go see her friends in about 15 minutes. Now, I wanted to try something out. I asked her to hold something for me during a lull in the conversation, and I pretended to put something in her hand, but instead held it. After a moment of shock on her hand, she gently let go of my hand.

She told me that this wasn't a date, and I asked if she had a man. She did.

Oh well, I casually accepted it and kept on talking to her as usual. I won't lie though, my game kind of went down a tiny bit because this was not a date. We are still cool though, and she said we should sit next to each other in that seminar.

All in all even though we weren't at the same wavelength and that, it was still a worthwhile experience. Got to practise my game, spend some time socialising, and got to know someone I didn't know before. I won't lie though, initially I was kind of disappointed with the outcome, but I rationalised that I basically did as well as I could have, and that it is better to know the situation than to have to wonder what could have been if I hadn't asked her out.

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Now I actually have some questions:

What do you think of my hand-holding thing. Was it too boy-friendy? Even if she was down to date, do you think that I should have gone for the arm around her or the kiss first?

Should I be specifically calling these outings with girls dates so we are both clear? I don't know because on one hand it means that we are both on the same page, but on the other I like to see where it goes and I feel it gives the girl and I plausible deniability if it does not go well.

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I think that's it to be honest. I'd love to hear your opinions!