Less attracted to women because I don't want to be what they want

puaCurveBall · 2012-03-08T16:03:18+00:00

I would honestly love to be loved for my fallible self.

That is basically saying that you want your actions to not matter.

If you improve yourself, become less angry, more thoughtful, learn to dance.... whatever, then if it counts, if it matters... it has to affect your values to others, which means innaction has to work against you.

You could say the same thing about work... Yes it would be great if you could be unskilled and lazy and get paid tons of money, but that isn't how the world works. Skills and motivation / drive actually count, and affect what you get paid.

I think your underlying problem is that you are viewing PUA as an additional layer going over your personality rather than trying to change the deep level of who you are to become a stronger, more confident person.

You need to work on whatever issues you view as being not good enough for the women you are with.

themoor · 2012-03-08T16:24:55+00:00

The point of game--or, at least, something a guy like you can/should take from it--is to help you overcome the either built-in and/or socialized obstacles that prevent us from meeting women in the first place or scaring them off when we do.

Done correctly, your underlying personality stays intact...or hopefully the good and valuable parts. And, you learn to locate your weaknesses and eliminate them or improve on them.

All those tactics that are taught are there to get you beyond their shields so you can meet and get to know them, and them you.

If you WANT to use the tactics in a machiavellian pursuit of getting laid, you can. But you can also use them to improve your odds of meeting a woman you can let into your life and share it with her.

Different guys have different goals. I see nothing in your goals that precludes learning and implementing what PUAs teach for nothing more than simply meeting more women...which improves your odds of getting your fallible self loved by a woman you love back, which seems to be want you want.

That said, if you get said woman, if you slip back into AFC ways, she'll eventually lose respect for you and walk all over you.

Biddlub · 2012-03-09T04:10:56+00:00

daygame! if u really want a woman to love you for who u are! then daygame is for you. no tactics, just being yourself....confident, confident self. the key things in daygame is to be direct, fuck indirect, that shit will get you no where in daygame. escalate - eye contact, vocal tone, get close, kino and the most important thing.... just have FUN!!!, daygame is fun

Title	Less attracted to women because I don't want to be what they want
Author	Biddlub
Upvotes	8
Comments	6
Date	March 8, 2012 6:28 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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