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How do you handle chronic hostility/undermining from women?

WhatIWannaSay

August 30, 2013

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Not sure if I'm an exceptional case on the receiving end of this but- I tend to get somewhat excessive mistrust, hostility, undermining behavior, snarkiness, doubt, and so on from women. It's as if women want to believe the worst out of me and overreact because of it. Even friends have noticed strange behavior from women when I'm otherwise carrying myself in a normal, social, casual, funny, dominant/confident manner. This goes for girls I'm either interacting with or, if it's going well with a girl, her friends or other random girls around me.

I like to say it's almost as if I called the girl(s) a cunt a month ago and didn't remember it; I get a hint of this treatment as if I'm this monster or asshole or something. I'm not being a dick when this happens either. It's all very strange.

Anyone else have experience with this? Can you lend any advice as to how to both prevent and handle excessive disrespect/mistrust from women that comes from seemingly nowhere?

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Title	How do you handle chronic hostility/undermining from women?
Author	WhatIWannaSay
Upvotes	2
Comments	7
Date	August 30, 2013 7:46 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]WhatIWannaSay[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]WhatIWannaSay[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I execute them just as well as (or better than) anyone else. Others seem to get a more forgiving attitude, even to terrible negs/humor, whereas I'll deliver much better interaction and be doubted, once again, very strange. It also seems it's very easy for me to go too far with a joke, to where even a non-offensive joke is interpreted as very offensive, women are more sensitive to me in an odd/hostile manner. Like I said, I bring out the crazy in women, and others notice this and are similarly baffled.

Typically yes, I display an uncaring attitude when I'm starting to get annoyed with a girl, but generally I interact as a normal human, caring to an average degree and being generally interested/sociable. My body language/actions are typically described as very confident/dominant/upright, with women I don't feel too much nervousness anymore, and this has garnered success, but still I experience some reservation/hostility that others don't experience, even when they're behaving in a similar or even worse manner.

At this point I'm always of the mindset that I will ditch any girl that irritates me too much, and I show it, to a certain extent, in my body language. Almost like, "Hey, I'm an interesting/confident/fun/flirtatious guy, I'm interested in you, but I'm not fucking around either, I won't cater to you or give in to your brattiness, demands, or immaturity" Though generally, I'm not that truly interested in many girls I meet aside from casual socialization, maybe that shows? I dunno, I have odd/eclectic tastes, so I am usually disappointed by girls, though I'm generally pretty accepting, not dickish or judgmental.

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[–]WhatIWannaSay[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Look man, women aren't just going to start treating you like that for no reason. There's an underlying cause.

Right, I'm of the same mind, there must be a reason, but it's been difficult putting my finger on what it is exactly.

From the looks of things you should work on your negs and humor, practice not going too far as to piss the girl off. You should also work on improving your status, high status women may not always want to interact with people they see as lower status, as they believe it lowers their own status as well. If their is an issue with your reputation, work to fix it. Also, try not to seem to dismissive to women, as they will see you as too arrogant or cocky, arrogance can work, but only if it's calculated correctly. People seen as too arrogant can turn women off.

Once again, I think this is the case, that I offend women easily. I'm not sure why, I've heard directly from women that they thought I was arrogant, condescending, intimidating, sexist, sometimes douchey, offensive, blah blah blah. But this seems to apply to me behaving in the same (or better) manner as others, yet they get a complete pass for it. Even worse, I don't feel I'm behaving this way, I'm generally sarcastic but avoid these kinds of behaviors, preferring to be compassionate/empathetic/intellectual/witty. But then it seems like when I try to be nicer, less controversial, the same shit happens, but seemingly out of disrespect... like women will take advantage of my kindness and try to dominate (which I don't let happen). As I said, women seem to want to believe the worst out of me, if I'm strong I'm too strong, if I'm weaker I'm too weak... strangely often it's like there can be no middle ground. I tend to be an oddball, however, I can get somewhat hyper and strange, even if I'm making everyone laugh a lot, I think it gets overwhelming perhaps, despite being the wittiest guy in the room?

Really? Who described this to you?

I've had several people remark on this, men and women, I also know how to carry myself and generally have no problem carrying myself in a confident/upright manner.

You need to be a hundred percent honest if you want me to help you out.

That's the thing, I think I need to go out with someone who understands this shit at a deeper level to get their opinion. It's one of those things you have to see in person, it's hard to know where I slip up, because sometimes it seems like I'm behaving perfectly well (even in other's eyes) and suddenly a girl will get super hostile, cold, offended, or neurotic for no apparent reason... it's baffling, and as I said, others have been similarly baffled. I have heard that I'm very good looking from some girls (to where they were very shy about it), but I'm not sure how that plays into it, I know I am physically attractive to a certain extent, but I also experience women who don't really see me as especially attractive. The signals I'm getting are all over the fuckin map, so it's difficult to gauge what's what and the interplay. I'm quite intelligent and know how to figure complex problems out, but being objective about one's own predicament is usually much more difficult, not being able to stand outside oneself.

[–]Mo_Lester69 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link