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WhatIWannaSay/r/seduction12/09/13 08:15 AM
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I agree with much of what's being said here about persistence game... that it's largely a chump's pursuit. I also agree that the only women worth your time are those who put in equal (or nearly equal) effort to pursue you back. That being said... I am curious, this is a question for everyone here: how many times have you had a girl you're actually attracted to put in an equal or nearly equal effort without inexplicably flaking? Also, what percentage of the girls you've pursued have put forth suc…
/r/seduction14/01/17 05:48 AM
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Same thing! Just adjust your activities to indoor and/or cold weather. Consider an increase in solitary self-development during colder months, too.
/r/seduction26/07/16 06:31 PM
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Threaten them. The more terrifying, the better. But seriously, here are some simple steps that will get your social life jump-started: (Disclaimer- Maintaining regular activities with a variety of people requires effort, it can even be a little bit tiring, and there may be financial impacts, so you have to decide what kind of lifestyle you want according to your desires, energy, and budget) Start doing fun things on your own. Think of the things YOU want to do, and fucking do them. Think of a to…
/r/seduction07/02/16 06:26 PM
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I know this is not a common piece of advice from people but, in your case you need to THINK WITH YOUR DICK. Don't worry so much about what she'll think of X or Y, just let your dick do the thinking, don't resist your horniness, and embrace your inner animal. That IS NOT to say that you should do anything objectively fucking weird, creepy, or coercive. If she's not into something, immediately stop or change what you're doing. The aim of this is to have fun and make each other feel really really g…
/r/seduction12/11/15 08:00 PM
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See, I disagree. I've won many arguments with women, and you know why they feel so emboldened? Because they get away with this shit. It's the same when you argue with anyone who's full of shit but nobody confronts them over it. You can deflect a "Wow, someone isn't getting laid!" the same way you'd deflect some douche-bro using an unrelated insult as a last-ditch effort in a debate they're losing... it can be as simple as laughing and literally telling them they made a douchey comment, and that …
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 07:01 AM
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Oh, I love arguing with them. I'm able to defeat them every single time, if I'm so inclined. Being able to divert all their stupid curveballs helps. It takes time to learn. Drives them nuts, but the victory of teaching them a lesson feels better than keeping the peace. And if you play your cards right in transition/afterwards, they'll still chase you just as much. Whether male or female, anyone who argues with me on something that I'm stubborn/correct about will get their asses kicked around for…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 06:08 AM
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You're a puzzlingly brainwashed fucking idiot if you seriously doubt what I've said.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 07:55 AM
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while the other party has a woman, two men of cuban descent, a black male, and a homosexual You do realize why they put them there, right? They are the token minorities meant to pander to the minority votes. Their actual policies are fucking laughable at best and draconian at worst, especially for the minorities they're pathetically attempting to win over. The right-wing is a no-go for anyone with half a brain and a deep moral/ethical sense.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 07:41 AM
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lol... The right-wing is the most unapologetically irrational and knee-jerk/going-with-your-gut (i.e. feelings) portion of the population. What you're spouting is pure propaganda- it's what you want to believe about the left/right, not what is actually true. This is projection, and a perfect example of "hamstering" or rationalization (the right-wing is guiltiest of this tactic). Here's some science: Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 02:32 AM
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To be honest... Hillary is a dipshit compared to Sanders, at least on the depth and honesty of her policy. Warren, however, is objectively more intelligent than Bernie. They are both brilliant however and Warren should hop on the ticket with Bernie if he wins the primary.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 01:40 AM
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The fuck are you talking about? They barely mentioned the topic.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/15 01:29 AM
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Thank you for providing a thorough, relevant answer!
/r/seduction10/10/15 06:12 PM
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Meaningless question...? It's actually hugely relevant. Seduce thy neighbor, but choose your neighborhood.
/r/seduction10/10/15 06:11 PM
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If you don't feel like explaining, then why did you respond?
/r/TheRedPill10/10/15 06:10 PM
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Not sure what you're whining about here. A chick sleeps with 17 guys (that's an average number, in my opinion, especially at age 29)... her boyfriend gets weird about it... that's his fucking problem. Here's an exercise for you guys: Flip the roles, the guy comes to RedPill and posts that his girlfriend is acting funny after he told her he's slept with 17 women before. She judges him negatively, doesn't treat him the same and wants him all to herself... How would most of you react to that? You'd…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 07:55 PM
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It's reactionary politics, nationalism, patriarchy/sexism, racism/ethnic prejudice, cult of personality, militarism/jingoism, blind obedience to authority, religious fervor, corporatism/capitalism, colonialism/neo-colonialism, homophobia, xenophobia, Puritanism, manifest destiny/conquest/imperialism, authoritarianism, violence/death-worship, exploitation, etc. We've been down that road, and it's not a human or sustainable one. Anyone who values the freedom, dignity, and intellect of themselves a…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 07:09 AM
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You don't actually know any far-left-wingers, do you?
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 05:51 AM
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Hahaha, all of my horsepower? Fuck no. I tend to stick my dick in hornets' nests purposely, and with, eventual, good results. To a crowd of fools, the wise man appears delusional. If you refuse to understand the holistic nature of dating, women, sexism, and how YOUR OWN suffering in those realms relates to culture (and I mean deeper culture than you're thinking) rather than something inherent in women (traits of which typically go both ways), then you will be fucking lost and outcast just as the…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/15 05:22 AM
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Talk to her like you'd talk to a guy... except a guy that's softer/frailer than you and that you want to kiss/have sex with. In order to do this, you have to realize that she's just a human. You have to find and throw the switch in your mind that says, "Omg this is a cute girl, so I have to change how I act with her". The key is, don't change, just add a kind of light, fun, mischievous sexual tension to how you normally do things. Give her little hints in conversation about your interests, don't…
/r/seduction06/10/15 08:12 PM
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China is only following our lead. China is the perfect example of both the worst of left-wing ideology and the worst of right-wing ideology. Hyper-capitalism mixed with massive post-Commie authoritarianism... the poor masses there are in truly dystopian circumstances. That's not even to mention Africa and the neo-colonialism and right-wing sociopathy that has raped and pillaged the continent, spilling over into copy-cat dictatorships and extremist religious conservative enclaves since. The world…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 06:28 PM
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The world is in varying states of order and chaos right now. This is due to overpopulation, unstable hierarchies, access to instant information/communication, and a slow-boiling ecological collapse (as well as the depletion of non-renewable resources). If you want to know what is right or left wing, here's a start: http://www.politicalcompass.org/ The right-wing brings a superficial order with immense hidden chaos, violence, and rigidity. The world must learn to let go of control. If you want tr…
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 06:17 PM
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You're kidding, right? The left-wing is about liberation. The right wing is about authoritarianism. The liberated man is intellectual, masculine, diverse in skill, progressive, scientific, and not a scared, xenophobic bootlicker like right-wingers are.
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 01:30 AM
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Not sure if you are in support of such government or not... However, I'd disagree... that's not the law of the actual jungle. Even wolves are less hierarchical than domesticated dogs. It's our society that ruins us, domesticates us, and pits us against each other in a hierarchy. The wilderness only does this in regards to direct competition for food and mating. And that's when food and mates are scarce, but this is a facet of any interaction of scarcity (or the inverted, artificial scarcity and …
/r/TheRedPill06/10/15 01:20 AM
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Anyone can be made to understand if you can impress it upon them correctly. Communication is a skill, you don't have to bullshit women, you can be frank with them. Upon giving women (or men) a fair, but no bullshit account of how things are, they can't help but nod, agree, and react like a human being. Talking about this shit (with anyone) should be fun and illuminating. Everything can be made more palatable with humor, especially. If you're not coming off as offensive/accusatory (which puts any…
/r/TheRedPill05/10/15 04:20 AM
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I just read it. Like most writings here... there are elements of truth and honesty mixed with immensely brash overreaction and prejudice. TheRedPill amounts to dating conspiracy theory- it's fiery, attractive, vindicating, and unapologetically honest... but that doesn't mean its conclusions (or solutions) are therefore all accurate. Some/many of them are dangerously inaccurate and damaging. The intelligent man learns to sort through the bullshit to find the gems. TheRedPill is catharsis and exer…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/15 09:24 PM
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Feminism is not the issue. The lack of thorough, intentional conversation is. Every single ideology and belief system has flaws that must be sorted out. The problem with modern feminism (not feminism at its core) is that it has become, in some respects, utterly irrational and even mildly oppressive. Any strong man/woman is able to tackle these issues, face them head-on, and fucking sort them out. We shouldn't be insulating men from the "evil feminist woman" we should be encouraging intellectuali…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/15 09:06 PM
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This is ridiculous and ahistorical. Did you ever consider that you can be masculine and left-wing? (Hint: You absolutely can, if you have the brains and the balls for it) You don't seem to realize that the far-left is dealing with the same new-wave problems in feminism that everyone else is. It's being discussed, and the right-wing is certainly NOT the answer. The right-wing is a trap that feeds on weak men who seek to dominate those who are weaker than they are. A true man can juggle and embrac…
/r/TheRedPill04/10/15 09:03 PM
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What I imagined...
/r/seduction28/09/15 09:27 AM
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They're just as full of shit as men. They just want to have fun. They are highly attracted to fun at every level. Some of them are not as dark, mysterious, and strange as they make themselves out to be. They're typically hounded/creeped on quite often by men if they're decently attractive. That should not stop you from flirting with them (intelligently), because they might dig you and want you to hit on them. There's only one way to test the waters and find out... They are not as sweet, innocent…
/r/seduction28/09/15 09:17 AM
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So says the humorless, efficient, cold-hearted German. :D Still though, I have a pretty good sense of humor, I know how to make people laugh, and whether I deadpan or laugh, I still get the same reaction at times. Perhaps I'm holding back and giving too much of a shit about interactions.
/r/seduction02/09/15 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I try to take this tact as much as I can. And I make a decent amount of friends by it. However, as far as dating goes, I'm sort of in this listless phase... uninspired by/lack sustained chemistry with most women, even sexually. Perhaps it's age or disillusionment? A few years of very stressful situations/circumstances may have affected me, maybe I'm expecting too much out of people.
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:36 PM
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I keep that neck trimmed as fuck. I typically get compliments on the facial hair situation.
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:33 PM
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Either way, he was unhelpful and socially aggressive himself. I have no use for that and stated as such.
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:32 PM
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Dude. I posted this (well... in a nutshell) 2 years ago and got no love... https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1f957u/wanna_know_what_girls_want_i_think_this_sums_it_up/ :D
/r/seduction17/08/15 06:29 PM
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Generally, yes.
/r/seduction10/08/15 04:39 PM
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What I'm saying is that it's frustratingly common, I do meet a lot of people regularly.
/r/seduction10/08/15 04:39 PM
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Lacking intellect, depth, shared interests, good attitude, deeper level maturity, adventurousness, humility, sexual comfort/availability, depth (rather than superficiality), a sense of humor, respect, interesting style/fashion-sense, compatible (or any well-thought) belief systems, warmth, originality, etc. Granted, I'm not in some third world country, I'm in a major metropolitan area of the US... which makes it even stranger and more dismaying how difficult it is to consistently interact with w…
/r/seduction10/08/15 06:50 AM
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Everywhere has people worth your time and effort even if their exterior doesn't 100% match your ideals. Actually the interior is the problem. Exteriors are fine.
/r/seduction10/08/15 06:45 AM
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I didn't make assumptions. The direct tone of your post was unhelpful and made assumptions itself. You're projecting. You aren't even giving them a chance to find out if you are compatible. Another assumption.
/r/seduction10/08/15 06:45 AM
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If you don't know what I'm looking for, then don't respond. It's about compatibility, not being "an all star".
/r/seduction10/08/15 12:00 AM
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Your response is not really relevant and is full of assumptions. I didn't ask for a response from someone like yourself, it's irrelevant and doesn't actually help. Though I'm sure it boosted your ego.
/r/seduction09/08/15 11:20 PM
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That's exactly what OP is talking about... Just relax your eyes more. Eventually you'll be able to understand each other once you're relaxed enough. That's how explorers first communicated with native tribes, they just relaxed their eyes as much as possible, everyone was comfy enough to understand each other. Trust me, man... I F-closed an HB9.5 in Prague, last weekend, within 20 mins of meeting her, after using the relaxed-eyes technique. This was at 8 in the morning, and she didn't even have h…
/r/seduction08/08/15 07:07 PM
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Who fucking downvotes your reply when it's DIRECT feedback from a woman?? Christ... that's precisely what men SHOULD be seeking- direct/honest female perspectives. I gave you an upvote. Edit: In case you're wondering- you were in negative votes, before. Looks like you're out of the negatives.
/r/seduction27/07/15 07:17 AM
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Hah, I'm not talking about money, per se. I'm talking about effort in dating.
/r/seduction23/07/15 08:56 PM
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I can definitely see your argument. But it's also not one-sided... BOTH sides of a relationship should be loyal and pay dividends (so to speak). So when I encounter women (or dating circumstances) that demand inordinate amounts of pay for something I might not be incredibly excited about (despite being varying levels of excited), while simultaneously failing to put in even a token reciprocal effort, then I decide it's not worth my energy. I'm not sure if this has always been this way, or if mode…
/r/seduction21/07/15 08:08 PM
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I'm not only seeing one side of this. I'm only commenting on the investment side. I wouldn't argue with you on this, though. It's obviously not black and white, these things bleed across gender lines. have you ever had someone who was incredibly loyal to you? Who'd take care of you in sickness and even when you fuck up? Despite there being no logical reason for her to stay? I'm not sure, actually... If you mean girls I've been in a relationship with, then not so much. Then again, I've typically …
/r/seduction21/07/15 05:48 PM
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This is probably quite accurate, at least the gist of it is. While I can understand the psychology/consequences of women having so many options... to be quite honest (and I couldn't give a fuck less if I'm judged negatively for saying this, so, please resist any indignant feelgood responses), understanding this dating reality leaves me with an unshakable feeling that these women are just not worth this kind of hassle and effort. They are unworthy of the rewards and become jaded/spoiled/obnoxious…
/r/seduction21/07/15 07:17 AM
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The OP's example "I bet you eat [chocholate] for breakfast, lunch, and dinner" was just lame. Right, it was just a quick example for expediency, not the height of my wit. I still think you missed what I was getting at. Also, you're quoting Oscar Wilde who said, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence." I would argue that snarkiness is the lowest form of wit, specifically, rather than sarcasm in and of itself.
/r/seduction20/07/15 07:56 PM
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This may be my favorite response. Thanks!
/r/seduction20/07/15 07:55 PM
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I'm not really talking about a joke falling flat, that happens, sure. I'm talking about when a girl doesn't understand that it's sarcasm... or responds way too literally.
/r/seduction19/07/15 08:19 PM
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about, I feel like I need this.
/r/seduction16/07/15 09:13 PM
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Makes sense, thanks for the response.
/r/seduction16/07/15 02:22 AM
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Moral of the story... Don't pull a Harry and Lloyd or you'll miss the bus of opportunity.
/r/seduction03/07/15 06:39 AM
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Wut... I've had more luck approaching in person than through Tinder. Tinder is fucking useless for me, and I'm decently attractive.
/r/seduction02/06/15 08:40 PM
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Yeah, I've noticed this with some girls. These are the girls I've grown very tired of... they're no fun at this point. Perhaps I am too "old" for that shit? Hah
/r/seduction25/05/15 06:19 PM
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... being a buzzkill by ranting or doesn't go sweet when you don't care, it's no longer a shit test and she's just an asshole. That's basically what happened. That's when I got irritated and called her out sternly, she didn't atone, so I bailed.
/r/seduction25/05/15 06:17 PM
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Makes sense. That's a good breakdown of the separation line between things.
/r/seduction25/05/15 06:39 AM
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If you read further up a bit, I give a couple.
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:36 AM
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I always have feelers out for playful teasing and love to engage it, but when that shit comes literally out of nowhere, more than once or twice, and the tone sounds less than playful... I start to get irritated.
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:35 AM
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Yeah, I definitely play shit like that off all the time. This girl said it several times, though... it got old (so to speak) and the tone began to sound nasty rather than playful.
/r/seduction25/05/15 05:35 AM
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Just making rude comments or unwarranted personal attacks, either in words or in tone. Like, for recent instance, continually making annoying comments about myself (or any dude) being "old", despite both being in their 20's. Or making snide/condescending comments about my (or any dude's) job, despite doing fairly well for myself. If a girl continually makes ridiculous/offensive comments that are really none of her business and doesn't get the hint that it's annoying, I start to get very irritate…
/r/seduction24/05/15 05:54 PM
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Definitely. That's essentially how I operate. Though I do wonder about the experiences of yourself or others in regards to these situations. It can sometimes be difficult, particularly with feistier women, to know where to draw the line between harmless bullshit and unacceptable disrespect. In the vein of "seduction" and dating, it's encouraged to roll with, deflect, or neutralize shit-tests and keep moving forward; knowing when to bail (and stop thinking with your dick) is the trickier part, I …
/r/seduction24/05/15 05:47 PM
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Right. This is sort of how I operate. Once a girl irritates me beyond the point that it's fun or able to be deflected, I call them out. If they don't atone for it or apologize, I say bye-bye.
/r/seduction24/05/15 05:42 PM
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I am very very desensitized to pretty girls. That's not to say my jaw won't drop (internally or even externally) from time to time. That's also not to say I don't feel similar feelings around pretty girls. However, women just do not phase me anymore, including the HOTTEST women. Part of this is something I've worked on, another big part is just being disillusioned over the years... the novelty of a hot girl has worn off, and their hotness is less powerful to me now; this makes me look at women a…
/r/seduction10/05/15 05:50 PM
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Pretty much. People have to keep in mind how often (and even harshly) men are slapped on the wrist for exhibiting single-minded aggression, domination, and/or pursuit. I mean... men SHOULD be checked for those things, we can't allow any man to run amok doing as he pleases with whomever he pleases. But even beyond the point of reasonable regulation of ill behavior, men's advances are often met with disproportionately amplified resistance and suspicion (even from other men); often enough to make m…
/r/seduction31/03/15 06:45 PM
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Combine that with this horse-shit... women under the age of 50 have had very little contact in their actual lives with men who pursue, who grasp, who dominate. And you essentially get women whining because they haven't been aggressively pursued by the most attractive men they encounter. Welcome to the club! They don't want men to "pursue, grasp, and dominate" them, in fact, most of them don't want that, they're offended/threatened by it more often than not. What they want is the fantasy, not the…
/r/seduction31/03/15 06:31 PM
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I understand that you're shy, but... reality is, you need to flirt. If you don't flirt, most guys are going to assume you're not interested or you're unfriendly. Flirting is basically going with your natural urges/drives but in a fun, subdued way that builds attraction/sexual tension (rather than releasing tension). So have fun with it!
/r/seduction23/03/15 02:26 PM
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You act like it's difficult to put this much thought into it.
/r/seduction05/03/15 11:42 PM
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I agree with you, so don't get me wrong... BUT... If you're over the age of 18... that shit is unnecessary. But then again, OP (and random weird chick) are in college, likely young/inexperienced, there might be good reason she's shy/awkward. In any case, she's obviously not feeling super confident/sexual in casual study-buddy situations when her roommate is in the next room. OP probably would've been better off getting her in a party situation and (responsibly/considerately) escalating when the …
/r/seduction13/12/14 09:15 AM
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...why would you even ask such a question?
/r/seduction22/11/14 05:32 AM
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That's a valid point, but simplistic. Relationships are more complex than that, no?
/r/seduction10/11/14 05:33 AM
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Right. But what if she continues her behavior just the same or maybe somewhat less even after you've explicitly made things clear?
/r/seduction10/11/14 04:28 AM
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Roast duck with mango salsa is always a great/alpha appetite booster.
/r/seduction17/08/14 05:49 AM
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(From the article) You have no idea whether or not this girl is good for you. Stop trying to win over someone you barely know. Your mindset should be: “Who is she? What are her values, interests, and aspirations? Does she have a good sense of humor? Is she worth my time, energy, and investment?” This is fantastic/crucial advice, but beware- once you adopt this mindset fully, you realize that half the women out there aren't worth more than a minute of your time (possibly not even a few seconds of…
/r/seduction07/08/14 11:49 PM
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Ok, so I broke ALL of my mugs. I'm in a deep zen state right now. Breaking multiple mugs should be exponentially beneficial to my sex life right?? In any case... no hot tea for me for awhile...
/r/seduction31/07/14 02:47 AM
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Could be. I typically sent out the "Hey", "What's up" instead of trying to catch them off-guard. Before I could start making it interesting, the app glitched out, wouldn't work, and now they require Facebook login (fuck that).
/r/seduction31/07/14 02:46 AM
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Step 1: Break a mug Step 2: Feel serene Step 3: ? Step 4: Sex with many attractive girls
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:35 AM
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White, generally attractive guy here who gets lots of matches... Never got laid. So what gives?
/r/seduction31/07/14 01:33 AM
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" Aww, bummer. Now I'm def gonna cry myself to sleep tonight :'( " or " BOOOOOOOOOOOO "
/r/seduction26/07/14 05:53 AM
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Not really relevant, but when I read this.... "If a man approached a female from an opposing tribe 10,000 years ago then he risked getting his attacked by an alpha-male of that tribe. The approaching male would have been greeted with a club to the head." I totally thought of this guy.
/r/seduction22/06/14 06:40 PM
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No, I'm saying do what you want according to your own morals/ethics. Because that's what you're gonna do anyway. In fact, my original statement encourages guys to actually think it through before chasing after a girl who's taken.
/r/seduction07/05/14 03:00 AM
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It really depends on the situation. You have to just feel it out, gauge the situation, and decide, sort of by instinct, whether or not something will go off well. Of course, this comes with practice, but there's also a level of intuition that many people ignore. Simply put- if a girl receives a flirt well, or responds positively (even coyly/shyly), then it's a good sign. A light approach is always good because, once again, women LOVE the build up. Whether it's flirting or physicality, you want t…
/r/seduction05/05/14 05:19 AM
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lol, common problem, that's where you have to use your own morals/ethics to decide what course to take.
/r/seduction04/05/14 08:45 PM
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Remember: Flirting is nearly synonymous with FUN. Having fun while interacting with women is absolutely fucking key to building mutual attraction. Playfulness, light teasing, light touching, a flash of those "I think I wanna fuck you" eyes, a flash of that devilish smile, a little bit of playful ignoring, just PLAY! And do this while not being afraid of your attraction/sex drive. Another big key is to flirt in such a way that is reserved enough not to be overbearing and in such a way that gives …
/r/seduction04/05/14 05:39 PM
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Just walk off into the sunset. Once you're out of ear-shot, release your Hindenburg of built-up farts.
/r/seduction15/04/14 09:00 AM
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Join in on the conversation, dominate it but captivatingly (as in, be easy going, interested, make the guy qualify himself TO YOU), judge him as you'd judge a new friend, make him out to be a friend for the both of you. Like "Oh cool! Look at this new friend we made!". Keep it sort of hurried though, because obviously you and the lady wanna get back to doing your own thing. If he acts a fool, then just let him dig his own hole, give her the looks like "Is this guy serious??" and that kind of moc…
/r/seduction28/03/14 06:02 PM
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Right. Gotta be careful you're not making excuses, or deluding yourself, or just depressed, or being unrealistic.
/r/seduction20/03/14 08:47 PM
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My initial instinct is to be interesting, stand out, but I find a lot of the same no matter what I experiment with. If women aren't bored, then they're weirded out... it's just ridiculous.
/r/seduction10/03/14 08:20 AM
17

I get a lot of matches on Tinder from a lot of attractive women... ones that even surprise me. I say "Hey" or "How goes it" or "Howdy" or "Hi" or something witty or remark on their profile... doesn't matter... only 3-10% even respond, and I'm not usually interested enough to flirt much or organize a meetup. Or it trails off and one of us gets lazy. If the conversation lasts longer, the girl flakes. I've had zero meetups. But then again, I haven't really dedicated myself to Tinder... not sure I e…
/r/seduction09/03/14 07:42 PM
2

I honestly think American culture (specifically for dating) kind of sucks. Also, our generation = all fucked up/in strange transition. Unpopular opinion, I know, and IDGAF. There's just something missing here that I can't quite put my finger on... but perhaps I need a little more adventure, like your backpacking trip. I have heard that European women (esp. Northern/Western Europe) are just generally easier to date, get along with, and have mature sexual experiences with.
/r/seduction24/02/14 08:11 PM
-1

hahaha
/r/seduction19/02/14 08:09 PM
0

shrug I just figured my thread was buried and nobody saw it after it got downvoted to shit, hah.
/r/seduction19/02/14 07:31 PM
1

Sure why not. Btw... are you downvoting everything I post? hah, because as soon as I post something, it gets downvoted. Or is that some kind of punishment I'm getting automatically for my angry thread?
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:44 PM
-1

So, in what way would you say pickup is about vulnerability? Being drunk does a lot of things, part of it is letting your true colors out, another part, however, is a exaggeration/amplification/warping of your true colors. I don't think being drunk is fully accurate, I think it's a caricature of who you are on any given night. Perhaps people can detect suppressed anger in me, but that gives me zero options. I can't not suppress it in social interactions, and I can't automatically solve it, so I …
/r/seduction19/02/14 06:41 PM
0

hah no worries. Sorry bout the angry response, btw. Was piss drunk last night. But yeah, I think more info is needed to give more context of your strengths/weaknesses, her traits, and some details of the interaction that might go unreported but are key to gluing the whole interaction together.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:48 PM
-1

Eh, that's a whole different story, but I'm workin on it.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:47 PM
-1

Sometimes I wonder about this, usually when I'm overly nice (nicer than I'm inclined to be) I get pretty warm responses. But then a lot of the fun of giving a girl shit or entertaining myself is taken away... I have to become this, almost effeminate, agreeable, boring conversational interviewer to not randomly offend people sometimes, and that's just not my personality.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:45 PM
-1

Possible. Though I'm told that I'm good looking and I dress well, etc. My social status definitely isn't lower than most of these girls, but... how would they be able to tell after just meeting me anyway?
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:43 PM
-1

This is possible. But I can usually feel myself being outcome dependent or not. This happens whether I'm outcome dependent or not. It can be when I'm barely interacting with a girl and could care less what she thinks (not necessarily in a mean way, but just interacting as everyone else is).
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:41 PM
-1

Ahh, I wasn't all pissy when I was drunk, was just goofing off, socializing, having fun, the post wasn't until later on when I started getting all drunk angry. I also find that drinking doesn't really inhibit my game much. In reasonable amounts it gets me more fluid.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:39 PM
-1

Drunk angry thread! Sorry everyone! I actually had a fun night last night, met three girls with a mutual friend who's a huge social butterfly/knows everyone. I warmed them up early on, had them laughing, etc. Wasn't really looking for a hookup, just at the bar to drink, socialize, and have fun. One of the girls was cute though, so I figured I'd flirt/kino a bit, seemed to work somewhat. I was told she has a boyfriend though. Anyway, at one point, cute girl got randomly/weirdly offended and was p…
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:23 PM
-1

(Repeating) haha, I was asking the right question in the wrong way. Was pretty drunk when I posted this thread. Sorry bout that.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:13 PM
-1

(Repeating) haha, I was asking the right question in the wrong way. Was pretty drunk when I posted this thread. Sorry bout that.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:11 PM
0

haha, I was asking the right question in the wrong way. Was pretty drunk when I posted this thread. Sorry bout that. I would love to go out with someone and have them analyze me, that would be fantastic, I'd get a focused/accurate observation of what I'm doing wrong... or maybe my buddy/PUA/observer would be just as confused as I am about it, hah.
/r/seduction19/02/14 05:11 PM
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And what exactly do you base this off of...? This is exactly the kind of response I told you not to post.
/r/seduction19/02/14 10:21 AM
0

Good job, really. But... this report is fucking useless. More information is needed.
/r/seduction19/02/14 09:43 AM
2

This is why being mischievous/having fun is key. You could be playful about it and still push without coming off as creepy. Don't listen to too much of what Irish_Chick is saying, she's coming at posters here with a lot of generic shit that may or may not be accurate in your situation. I'm sure you'd catch her contradicting herself on another day saying something like, "If a man doesn't chase me, he doesn't deserve me" or essentially insinuating that if a man doesn't do work and figure out a min…
/r/seduction31/01/14 04:42 AM
1

How did you even get upvoted for this??
/r/seduction31/01/14 04:39 AM
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This is a good sign, many women out there will react coldly to advances, even if they're not in a relationship. You could have kept up the charm, a little sly smile, mix it with some graciousness and said something like, "Aww, adorable. Well, how about we just exchange numbers just in case? We can just be buddies for now" Or something along those lines that feels appropriate. Take the guilt out of her for exchanging numbers, assure her there's no need for any infidelity, but still push for the n…
/r/seduction30/01/14 05:40 AM
2

hahah
/r/seduction21/01/14 09:39 PM
2

I was mostly just fuckin with you, but there may be some truth to it. I'm also quite anti-Capitalist, so I had to say it, hah.
/r/seduction21/01/14 09:38 PM
15

Yeah, I think it should be used tactically/situationally/spontaneously. Use it when it COUNTS. Because sometimes, I feel, that speaking too formally makes you come off as too dry/vanilla/old (especially when talking to a girl in her early 20's). Really it's about not being afraid to be EITHER casual or formal, be confident in your approach and your desires.
/r/seduction21/01/14 04:32 AM
0

Sorry bro, but loving Capitalism is a huge turnoff for everyone.
/r/seduction21/01/14 01:14 AM
1

Nah, I'm a pretty confident guy. I don't really get in my head about it. However, over time, it becomes irritating and obnoxious. Typically I just rule girls like that out for being idiots. But still, I want EVERY GIRL FOR MYSELF. :D
/r/seduction03/01/14 08:24 PM
2

Right... not sure what this is all about. Perhaps it's the modern version of the prehistoric "effeminate" caveman who didn't go out hunting with the guys, instead stayed back and hung out with the girls alone, charmed them by becoming one of the girls (but still fun/confident) and thus banging them when all the other guys were away hunting game?
/r/seduction03/01/14 05:39 AM
1

No I know, I was just being a sarcastic ass, hah.
/r/seduction03/01/14 05:36 AM
1

Bingo. I think I've been going through some of the same shit.
/r/seduction02/01/14 06:52 PM
2

But... but... David DeAngelo says not to smile much! :D
/r/seduction02/01/14 06:49 PM
3

You're getting some pretty shitty advice here. Not saying I have a panacea, but your thread is partially relevant to this sub, it's also different/deeper and requires some other core issues to be sorted out/improved for you. Getting help from a counselor/psychiatrist/whatever with any mental health issues is a start (and yes, depression/anxiety are totally legit issues to seek help for, in fact they're the most common). Furthermore, as you've said, you can become very sensitive. I know how it is…
/r/seduction25/12/13 10:13 PM
2

8)
/r/seduction19/12/13 12:08 PM
2

Yeah I suppose. I mean, if you don't stay true to yourself then what do you have except erratic hedonism/opportunism? Which, I suppose, either could be argued for once again. Depends on the future we want and the past we want to look back on.
/r/seduction19/12/13 07:38 AM
2

Right, this is how I tend to view things, morally/ethically. But what sucks is when you try to uphold this moral standard and it doesn't catch on, then you almost feel as if you're losing out by not participating in the fucked up game? Who knows... thus the struggle.
/r/seduction18/12/13 09:17 PM
2

Yeah, this is how I want to operate, but it falters sometimes. I've gotten to the point where I don't like to play a lot of games with women, so these sorts of situations usually take the form of a game or thirst for drama, so I suppose it helps that I'm becoming more and more averse to it on top of the moral/ethical issue.
/r/seduction17/12/13 11:56 PM
1

The pickins are slim for girls I actually want to date long-term. Otherwise, you're right, the pickins aren't slim for intelligent/attractive girls for less long-term relationships/fun. But still, when girls become single, their overconfident cold wall kicks in, then when they get in a relationship, it's like they warm up and want multiple guys or something. I let strangers call dibs on things I want if I deem it fair, otherwise I tend to take what I want without being a bogart. I'm a dominant b…
/r/seduction17/12/13 08:27 PM
1

Right. I definitely hear you on this. Do you have women say that you're intimidating too? I've heard that more than once, I think it sort of intrigues yet scares girls away. I sort of feel like I have to do almost 100% of the chasing to land most girls, even if she totally wants me.
/r/seduction17/12/13 08:24 PM
2

Yeah, here's the way I look at it- if a girl you just met mentions she has a boyfriend, keep talking to her as normal, be unfazed, acknowledge her statement as you would any other statement and don't really ask anything more unless you're interested. Continue to have fun, flirt, see what happens but don't push too hard since she's in a relationship. It's obnoxious when you find this out, but then just stick to your "just having fun" mentality and put the ball in her court. Same goes for a girl y…
/r/seduction17/12/13 08:19 PM
3

Wait a sec... wtf is this article talking about? Isn't Tinder about HOOKUPS and not mid to long-term dating...? I could have sworn Tinder was intended to be Grindr for heterosexuals. Of course it's not going to foster true love, if you go to Tinder for anything more than casual dating or hookups, you're an idiot... and unfortunately, most women on there are idiots who don't understand this (can't speak for the men because they don't show up for me!)
/r/seduction17/12/13 01:33 AM
16

Dick pics... so many dick pics.
/r/seduction10/12/13 09:40 AM
1

I hear you. I'm a playful guy, naturally, I like to fuck around, play little jokes/pranks, etc. My natural state involves a bit of mischievousness, I don't think I'm coming off as fake when I'm teasing a girl, perhaps I am though, it's always hard to tell. I think a lot of girls are just lame and overly sensitive. :P Who knows though, it's always good to reassess one's behavior with people, and judge whether or not it's true and confident.
/r/seduction08/10/13 05:56 PM
2

Hmm, there could be something to that. Though I'm usually pretty chill, truly having fun when I'm giving a girl shit. Maybe I'm reading them wrong and they're actually enjoying it but just giving shit back. Who knows. But this is worth experimenting with...
/r/seduction08/10/13 01:48 AM
1

Possibly, or you have to be otherwise disarming. I can see being an asshole working against a really good looking guy if many girls already assume he's arrogant/dickish.
/r/seduction07/10/13 07:20 PM
2

Oh I'm well aware of this, and I'm pretty damn good at it. Still... tricky for me. Women tend to be on the defensive with me, overly sensitive.
/r/seduction07/10/13 06:13 AM
18

What's funny is I'm the opposite- I show the least bit of meanness, or sarcasm, or ego... even if it's in good fun, and they shut me down. If I'm nicer, calmer, I get more out of them. To each their own I suppose?
/r/seduction07/10/13 05:55 AM
1

I hate this shit. He's being a douchebag. My advice, and this works if you wanna make him seem like an ass and instantly cut him off as he's cutting you off: Just keep talking to the girl, keeping eye contact with her, don't give him attention, just keep looking at her so she keeps looking at you and feels awkward giving the other douche attention. Raise your volume slightly but smoothly if necessary to just barely speak over him, be/behave confident that your conversation is more important than…
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:25 PM
1

I've always handled this by having fun with it. Find your own way to be amused by it, make the guy feel as awkward as possible. If he's hitting on your girl right in front of you, he has it coming. If you're comfortable, you'll use him as a puppet to amuse yourself. All's fair.
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:42 AM
2

A woman can fuck up in many (if not all) of the same ways a man can. If she's too stupid, obnoxious, insecure/shy/strange, crazy, boring, high-maintenance, sour/snobby/mean-spirited/selfish, full of herself, ugly, out of shape, the list goes on. I think that our dicks drive us to cater ourselves (and our time) to women that don't necessarily deserve it any more than men deserve their time. Don't get me wrong, I'm not overly judgmental of women... usually... but I've realized more and more that w…
/r/seduction22/09/13 06:27 AM
1

In your quote, "Instead, analyse the error in your ways and, in the next attempt, correct it. Again, though, never compromise yourself." I notice this sort of recurring theme of accepting women as the choosers and the men as the fuck-ups. Why don't we truly level the playing field and try to identify, not only, when we fuck up (as men), but when women fuck up and act like crazy, awkward idiots as well? Perhaps you're of the same mind, but I just feel like the PUA community is sort of one-sided w…
/r/seduction21/09/13 06:23 PM
2

I think this happens less in environments like clubs/bars and more so among friend groups, coworkers, parties, facebook, yadda yadda. It's just a pain in the ass being undermined secretly when you just want some simple tail. Shouldn't have to work too hard for it. Otherwise, yes, I'd agree with you, mindless girls are a waste of my time.
/r/seduction18/09/13 03:51 AM
2

I can only hope this is how it typically goes down, but I feel like there's also the group dynamic of outcasting people (even slightly) to maintain group cohesion, rather than giving everyone an equal chance. Then usually, the person who does the most shit talking (most confidently/entertainingly) essentially rises to the top, in true shithead style, when he (or she) might likely be inferior to whoever they're shit-talking about.
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:37 PM
1

This is useful, and a tactic I usually employ. However, how do you deal with remote cock-blocking? As in- someone cock-blocking you while you're not around by attacking your character, talking shit, making you look bad, essentially deluding a girl that you're not as attractive as you are.
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:47 AM
1

Hmm, either! Come to think of it...
/r/seduction17/09/13 05:41 AM
1

Look man, women aren't just going to start treating you like that for no reason. There's an underlying cause. Right, I'm of the same mind, there must be a reason, but it's been difficult putting my finger on what it is exactly. From the looks of things you should work on your negs and humor, practice not going too far as to piss the girl off. You should also work on improving your status, high status women may not always want to interact with people they see as lower status, as they believe it l…
/r/seduction02/09/13 01:20 AM
1

I execute them just as well as (or better than) anyone else. Others seem to get a more forgiving attitude, even to terrible negs/humor, whereas I'll deliver much better interaction and be doubted, once again, very strange. It also seems it's very easy for me to go too far with a joke, to where even a non-offensive joke is interpreted as very offensive, women are more sensitive to me in an odd/hostile manner. Like I said, I bring out the crazy in women, and others notice this and are similarly ba…
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:30 PM
2

I do this pretty frequently, and don't let their attacks phase me, but it still keeps coming, it's ridiculous. Yes, they break their bullshit a bit, but it's an almost constant fight. Edit: It also comes from girls that are quite below my league.
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:12 PM
1

No worries, I've been feeling the same thing, increasingly so. I don't know what it is, if it's normal or not, conceited or not, laziness or not, but I'm just not interested enough to put in the effort for most girls. Everything beyond feels like wasted energy, even if I do get laid. Most of them are more effort than they're worth I feel like. It's like, why should I even waste the energy breaking down and worming around women's massive walls and snobbish conceit? I have more self-respect and li…
/r/seduction02/08/13 03:41 AM
5

I'm naturally a pretty defiant person, so I like breaking rules and defying commands given to me. When I'm feeling anxiety or if I start making excuses I will imagine someone I dislike telling me, "you can't do x," or, "you can't talk to her," and it hits that nerve and I just go "watch me" and I go talk to the girl. Thank you for this awesome tool. 8)
/r/seduction05/07/13 07:22 PM
4

So how do you explain it when the most attractive guy is behaving in an unconfident/boring/unassertive manner and is crowded with attention, and I (or others) are fully confident, charming, and social and receive less/brief attention? This is not something people make up, it's real. I'm not sure why you deny it.
/r/seduction05/07/13 06:36 AM
6

To be honest, you sound borderline religious about the issue. I'm not a moron, I'm a grown-ass man, I've experienced many situations with women, I've experienced many different social situations and have concluded that looks absolutely DO matter. Once again, I don't disagree with you that other factors can greatly improve one's dating life and even make up for (or enhance) any physical attractiveness (or lack thereof). However, I have noticed that physical attractiveness makes game a LOT easier …
/r/seduction05/07/13 06:16 AM
2

I'm consistently told I'm handsome/attractive/etc. But pretty much never get approached by women.
/r/seduction05/07/13 05:16 AM
5

I appreciate the responses, guys. However, these are all kind of PUA platitudes about how physical attractiveness doesn't matter. I understand the need for self-confidence, assuming attraction, social skills, etc. However, I'm not under any illusions- physical attractiveness DOES matter. To what extent? It usually depends, but the more attractive you are, the easier things will be, to the point where a sufficiently attractive guy can say anything and be chased and a sufficiently unattractive guy…
/r/seduction05/07/13 05:01 AM
1

Cool. IDGAF.
/r/seduction10/06/13 08:40 AM
1

Well everyone is different, every situation is different. Also, how you say something is pretty important.
/r/seduction09/06/13 09:08 AM
-4

Thank you. :)
/r/seduction09/06/13 08:41 AM
5

I browse /r/seduction via my main feed/front page and try to help where I can, it's the equivalent of any group of men/women giving each other advice on dating or getting laid. Your gender really didn't make much of a difference in how I addressed you. If you were a guy white-knighting I probably would have written a nearly identical response. I argue with people on the interwebs all the time, from all walks of life, I truly judge people based on their arguments, and I don't hold back. What I fi…
/r/seduction09/06/13 08:11 AM
3

If I did... I wouldn't have to stick the PS on there?? Talk about a cliche line of logic. I was countering all of your points, because you were just simply wrong about all of them. And... how do you know she wasn't being an arrogant smartass? The phrase "if you play your cards right" is a silly thing to say unless you're half-serious/fucking around.
/r/seduction09/06/13 07:36 AM
8

So... you can be an arrogant smartass to men but men can't do the same if both are having fun with it? You're being an idiot. PS- I do get laid.
/r/seduction09/06/13 07:23 AM
0

Here's how I might respond: (facial expression of "Wtf? Did you really just say that?" and half-smirk) "If I play my cards right? Haha... I was actually gonna say the same to you." She'll probably give you another smartass answer back, either being playful or arrogant, but hopefully acquiescent. Just be cocky but warm/playful, perhaps joke back saying something like, "Hope you've got an ace up your sleeve or something, cuz I'm the house and the house always wins."... blah blah, something like th…
/r/seduction09/06/13 06:21 AM
1

What what?? You guys aren't Cyndi Lauper fans??!!
/r/seduction29/05/13 06:52 AM
1

I'm going to have to agree with most people here. I'm told quite often that I'm good-looking, handsome, whatever. But my interactions with women in public tend to be... cold. I'm told that I've been checked out, but most times I don't (or can't) notice. I find it difficult to figure out whether women don't stare because I'm attractive or because I'm unattractive... this is what mixed/hidden signals do. All that being said, I'm a fairly naturally dominant guy, so I blatantly check girls out and g…
/r/seduction27/05/13 06:44 PM
3

Yeah, it's a case of the chicken or the egg. There are a lot of shitty women, but there are also a lot of shitty men turning women into shittier people (and vise versa, I'm sure). It's hard to know who or what to be mad at. Hopefully the dark side doesn't win out. 8) PS- Yes "shitty" is totally an official sociological term.
/r/seduction10/05/13 10:43 PM
4

Yeah, it's truly bizarre. And it'd be fine if we could just say- "ok, I'll just avoid these women with fucked up baggage and seek out the good ones"... but it's so rare to find a woman who can just enjoy herself with a man without flaking out, screwing it all up, blaming it on the man, and suddenly acting like she's hot shit Any self-respecting man doesn't have time for mental children.
/r/seduction09/05/13 11:14 PM
2

Right! Women seem to be much more... complex (I like to call it ridiculous instead) in who they'll chase or allow to chase them. I really do think that a large percentage of women actually get off more on rejecting guys than on successfully fucking/dating/flirting/etc. Even women who are unattractive or less attractive than you... it's seriously a fucking waste of time to be like that, in my opinion. You only live once, you're young for a small portion of that time, and certain women want to pla…
/r/seduction09/05/13 11:09 PM
3

Right, I def hear you on that. I'm not tall, personally, not short either, I stand at 5'10, so posture makes a decent difference in how I come off. Another thing I wondered is- do I have a dick-face? As in, the male version of the "bitch face". I've asked others, and they assure me that I don't have a "dick face", I don't look mean or particularly angry most of the time. Though I know in public, I tend to be in bad moods semi-often, so perhaps they just don't see me when I'm walking alone, it's …
/r/seduction09/05/13 11:01 PM
16

I've wondered the same thing. Here's the deal- I've been told I'm pretty attractive by multiple people, both gay and straight, male and female, many times it just comes out of nowhere, like people feel compelled to compliment me. I've also been told I'm intimidating. However, I've also hung out with other attractive, intimidating men... and they seem to have more luck with women. Whether it's a woman coming onto them openly and/or warming up to them instantly. Whereas it seems to take longer for…
/r/seduction09/05/13 06:24 AM
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