Game. Who did you study?

drrrrrr · 2013-11-04T19:06:12+00:00

I'm pretty old school, I was into Jeffries way back in the day. This is like the true cringe shit, the NLP / salesman game. It appealed to me because I was fat at the time, but I figured I was extremely intelligent. This old school stuff was all about "you can be a fat Starcraft nerd and emerge from your cave, weave your mental spiderweb of game, catch some prey, and retreat back to the basement." In short, it was all bullshit. But the confidence that I had some special power that no one else knew about (in 1999-2001 literally no one knew about this) made me markedly better with women, so I thank Jeffries.

I left game for a while in college because I realized you can get laid all you want without it, and then I came back to it after The Game had gone huge. Became a big fan of RSD - I think the Blueprint is still one of the best products out there if you can sit through it. It is pure RP before there was RP, like it is basically "quit trying to pick up girls, and actually understand what it is to be a beta and how you can change yourself away from that".

By around 2010 or so, I had done a few years of going out hard for about 2 nights per week, finally reaching the age where a relationship didn't sound terrible. As a byproduct of this, I think I subconsciously switched over to more RP / Athol / Roissy type material, while revisiting RSD once in a while to browse the free stuff Tyler posts. Hate him or love him, he explains self development concepts very well.

If I were advising a young guy getting into game today, however, I would say just go out. Every 7 days of going out, you earn yourself the right to spend 1 hour, no more, reading or watching PU material. Limit the inflow of good material, even if its great material, so that it matches your inflow of experience. Every 50 girls you open, you can spend 5 minutes on the forums or reddit. Keep your brain focused on your own experience and the reality in front of you, not the reality of everyone else on the internet, even if they are genuinely experts.

VivalaVeritas · 2013-11-04T18:50:48+00:00

48 laws of power by Robert Greene. Read it now. Seriously, that books is RP as fuck. Really, go to the library ASAP, rent the book, unscrew the top of your head and pour that shit straight onto your brain. You'll feel like ass for not reading it sooner, but that book has worked wonders for my game. 33 strategies of war and the art of seduction were pretty good, but be sure to read the 48 laws of power first.

tl;dr- Robert Greene and the 48 laws of power taught me the most important aspects of game.

young_TRP · 2013-11-04T16:15:00+00:00

Book of Pook, free ebook on inner game. Helps you to get your standards right.

And Day bang, because I am 17.

bsutansalt · 2013-11-05T21:20:06+00:00

Neil Strauss
Mystery / Venusian Arts
Mystery Method
Speer
David DeAngelo
Vince Kelvin
Adam Lyons
Robert Green
Art of Charm / Pickup Podcast
RSD
Pook / Sosuave forums
Roissy, aka Heartiste
Rollo Tomassi / Rational Male
Athol Kay / Married Man Sex Life
Bruce Lee

Why Bruce Lee? I took what I learned from the above companies and individuals and used Bruce's philosophy to 'discard what is useless and absorb what is useful'. In the end I've created a unique style that works for me as an individual. A lot of the broad strokes are going to be the same throughout the different pickup styles, often times just renamed by whoever is in charge of that particular company. That said, what works for me from one school may not work for someone else based on their physique or speech style or whatnot, and vice versa. There are so many individual variables at play it's impossible for any one style of game to work for everyone.

This is how I developed the material I teach to guys. I took the broad strokes--the basic personal communications skills, hygiene, presentation, and the major psychological aspects at play in the mating game--and use that as the foundation for improving my students. I don't focus on all the little nitnoid details and structured game stuff (routines, canned lines) a lot of the big names teach and instead focus on the broad strokes that will have the most applicability to people in general. When guys go out a lot on their own they're going to fill in the details on their own as they become more adept and refine their own person style of game through trial and error.

Opioidus · 2013-11-08T12:39:45+00:00

I learned everything I knew from my older brother, he was an old school seducer of women, all experience no theory. When I reached 14 he started taking me out with him and doing everything he can to boost my confidence with women. Over the summer I went from the nerdy, shy kid to a world class player by high school standards, telling girls I couldn't say hi to a couple of months ago ''I'm too mature for you'' and ''God you have issues''. This was mid 90s.

Years later I got into game by this ad of David DeAngelo I saw someplace. And then I read anything I could get my hands on about game, started to expand my ''natural game'' and get the women I was never able to before(+8s).

Right now for a newbie I recommend Roosh, I love his ''no bullshit'' style and that he doesn't get into theory too much and is all about technique. What you need right now is just what my brother gave me, mechanical, applicable techniques, after you've had years of success and wanted to know what you did right you can start reading The rational male for example.

TheIslander829 · 2013-11-04T23:58:46+00:00

David DeAngelo's ebooks first, then Heartiste, Mystery, and Roosh.

To me, the Mystery method is still the simplest way to learn. It's a step-by-step guide to everything.

[deleted] · 2013-11-04T17:13:30+00:00

My adopted brother is a natural, for the most part I follow his coaching. Buying all these books and videos and consultations is clearly a trap that the industry wants insecure lonely men to fall into, sometimes I wonder what advice is real, and what is just self help porn.

I've done a few books out of curiosity though. Like many the first one I read was "The Game". I also liked Pook, Bang/Day Bang. I'm never going to pay for workshops, video courses or consultations with a pro because it smells like a money trap.

youngbulker · 2013-11-07T14:36:35+00:00

Started off with the generic canned openers/ etc neil strauss but I quickly lost interest in that. I started watching tyler's videos from RSD and reading those articles, I felt being natural was the way to go. I feel like redpill is the next step up in some regards from RSD natural methods, because of empirical evidence and a lot of studies that are posted. I still watch Tyler's videos, that guy is really good at explaining concepts and is pretty hilarious.

dickshitpissfuck · 2013-11-09T16:10:41+00:00

Work on your confidence before you worry about game.

Title	Game. Who did you study?
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