Pros & Cons on stoicsm

CptDefB · 2014-01-09T11:31:09+00:00

This book is on my list of books to read.

Being an introverted person and having a reserved personality seems to naturally lend well to stoicism, but as I've read little, I'm just guessing based on outward behavior.

Anyway, I've found that positive emotions are usually taken for granted (especially by extroverts who tend to get energy from interacting with others, or those who can manipulate you), while negative emotions are coddled/patronized, or shunned (don't disturb the peace, or, bitch don't kill my vibe).

That alone lends credit to Stoicism for me.

There's a recent post about how women react to a man smiling vs a man showing pride (accounting for prideful smiles/smirks here). I think this is important, because it highlights context, which is key when communicating to women.

Combine that with the idea that through your gestures, expressions, words, and actions, you can positively/negatively reward a woman's behavior to subtly reinforce traits you desire... and that makes emotions more of a cost/benefit analysis to me.

With emotions the best ones are love and happiness. But, our current world doesn't facilitate acting on those emotions while adequately receiving what we want out of life in reciprocation. So, it's up to us to either adapt (and use emotion wisely), or LTR a girl up, and create the environment in which you can express your emotions freely.

That said... if your expression of emotions means you lose your frame (expression of hopelessness/depression/indecision/shit-test failure/whydowehavesuchalongasslistofwaystofailwiththesebitches/etc), then you also run the risk of losing your bitch because women will be women.

Ultimately, I think stoicism wins out by the very nature of what men need to be... which may be why, as an introvert, I don't really "get" extroverted people, even if some can be quite wonderful to be around.

NrwhlBcnSmrt-ttck · 2014-01-09T12:16:13+00:00

I know a kid who acts like he is unshakable, but why would you even say such a thing. It was super easy to press his buttons. Whatever you do, don't advertise your vulnerability unless you are going for beta game, subconsciously as well.

[deleted] · 2014-01-10T16:30:44+00:00

It depends on your mental development and where you're at, age-wise. I've encountered high school kids who have read the material about stoicism, and then use it to develop a sense of being more elevated than those around them. In college it's a similar thing, except the individuals usually have more complicated words to describe their affliction and problems with the world.

I'm saying this because that high school and college kid was me. I thought that reading that material and 'internalizing it' made me understand the bigger picture better than my friends.

I misused a very great approach on life for my own personal gains, and to protect my ego from a failing social life in high school (and blue pill relationship in college).

I'm still learning about the concept of 'not showing emotion,' but here's my take.

It's not about 'not showing emotions.' It's about being able to see your emotions as they come across your mind. Alan Watts would call it the Thinker vs. Thought paradigm. Meaning that we define our 'thinking self' as the voice that can point out emotions, and our 'thoughts' as the actual emotions caused by environmental stimuli.

In reality, both the thinker and thought are coming from the same source, and there is no difference. So being able to see that the person in your head is the exact same as the emotions you feel will help...somehow (it's hard to explain here)

My new approach is to have that 'straight honest' approach with your emotions, and it relates to TRP through what Patrice O'Neal would call your Gut Feelings. Not censoring what you feel because of your heart or mind conflict...damn this is turning into one dumbass feel good response.

Anyways, don't "turn off" your emotions. Suppression will lead to an internal revolt of whatever you're holding back, and people around you (Women, in this case) will be able to identify the suppression as you trying to conform to someone else's standards.

Title	Pros & Cons on stoicsm
Author	Jkobzen
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Date	January 9, 2014 9:30 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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