I have improved my game with cocky comedy, and it works great on high value women (not so much on your chubby neighbourhood geek..) so don't use these on girls with apparent low self esteem. Don't put people down without a reason. A confident, beautiful, high value women will take your words, twist and throw back at you, she will laugh and ask your name; she has had life easy; she can't easily be put down by a nasty comment about her shoes. Got it? Good. Because if you use any of the below on an average girl who isn't a confident, social butterfly: you will probably drive her to suicide. So don't be evil.
These are all aimed to create tension, start a fight: but what do you think happens when someone creates tension and releases it professionally? Laughter. Relaxing. Relief. Good feelings (As if someone stole your car as a prank, and when you were really upset HE DROVE IT INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY and said SURPRIIIISEE!!" What do you do? You laugh and maybe cry out of happiness: because he lead you down one path but took you out another path. Chimpanzees laugh. You know when? (No stand-up comedy there in primate colonies!) When the lookout chimpanzee warns the others of immediate danger of a predator: but it was just a bird, or not a threat. Chimpanzees laugh in relief then, and feel happy. This is what you aim with tension-release.
There is another concept called push-pull ; which is like tension and release, but you show interest, and show disinterest , confusing the girl, adding unpredictability; hence excitement to the interaction. She can't really be sure if you are into her, or not. This keeps her playing. If you were predictable; she would have solved you and left.
Here are some of the openers I use (Use common sense. If her hair isn't visible in the photo: skip that line..) Some are taken from David DeAngelo contributors, some I made up. But they are all tested on hundreds and hundreds of women and are proven to work if you are her type at all. They are proven to PISS HER OFF and get out a response is what they do. They won't outright attract her and make her fall in with you. But out of 500 guys who messages her that day, you are the one she is responding to and talking to. Good. This correlates to A1 of the Mystery Method.
Openers
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| Aww poor thing, you can't even afford the full t-shirt, you had to buy the small children's size that doesn't even cover up your pömppis(it means belly in Finnish) and jenkkakahva(it means love-handles in Finnish) :) Don't worry, here is 3€ so you can go buy a nice shirt at kirpputori. I feel generous today :) Let me see your shoes... oh, they are nice! What a surprise. You at least have good taste in shoes. Where did you buy them? Did they also sell women's sizes there? | (If she's wearing a half-shirt top whatever it is) |
| I love your hair! It kind of reminds me of a bird's nest.. It's amazing what a great haircut you can get for a $4 haircut in Finland. Imagine.. how good it would look washed. But it makes your head look normal so, cheer up; at least the extension clips are well hidden! What's your name? | (She has a picture with her hair made into a ball on top of her head, or just looks messy/curly) |
| I love your eyes! I thought you must have photoshopped them. They are so gorgeous. But then I noticed your boobs and thought; "If she were any good at photoshop, she would do something about the boobs first..." But hey your eyes are real. So.. [Insert casual friendly question here] | (She has a picture with her eyes clearly visible, and doesn't have very large breasts) |
| I love your shirt [or top], it's amazing how well it hides your belly. [Insert casual friendly question here] | (She has a shirt, but no belly..) |
| What are you doing hunting for guys on the internet , on this place? Can't you meet normal people out in the real world like everyone else? What's wrong with you? [Very powerful. If she smiles or defends herself or makes a funny comment like asking why you are there; ignore that you even said that and start teasing her about other things. don't go back to the first opener topic. Some girls are there to hunt their dream Justin Bieber look alike and all other guys will be 0-value for them. Don't even waste time answering them. Ignore. ] | (IF she has nothing else you can tease her about. Likely a boring person though..) |
| I love your shoes. Where did you buy them? They look expensive.. Did they also sell women's sizes? [Insert casual friendly question here] | (Picture of her wearing shoes, or a picture of her feet in shoes) |
| I love your style. There is something fucking sexy about the way you dress. Where do you shop from? Which flea market [Which branch of Salvation Army etc.. You get the point. You are implying that she is cheap and frugal, not classy]? I must go shopping there as well. My grandma buys the clothes that are EXACTLY like your style. So she can gift them to me on my birthday. I love my grandma, can't stop wearing the sexy skirt she got me last Christmas. [She doesn't know if you are serious or not at this point but she is laughing. Get back to the topic occasionally during conversation, mentioning having spilled your coffee on your skirt, or she made you so much your bra fell off. Just randomly] | (She dresses like a hippie..) |
| Just.. when was the last time you shaved your legs?... They have the same stubble as you do on your chin.. But anyways, mine was yesterday. I cut a few times, god it hurts so much. Why must the price of beauty be so high? Sometimes I just think I should let go and I shouldn't care about attracting so many women with my long, muscly legs.. But a man has to take care of himself.. [Ask casual friendly question here] | |
| You don't look [Insert the nationality you guys are from], where are you from? Are you [Insert a nationality that both of you guys would deem less valuable, like Mexican for USA, Russian for Finland, Irish for UK... ]? - She replies that she is very [Your nationality] and you reply with - Oh that's too bad. It's like a meat market here in [Your nation], girls just treat me like a piece of flesh.. I thought you could be different for a change but it seems not.. At least we can chat a little while before you go all [Your nationality...] on me. [Casual friendly question here..] | |
| 140cm? [Enter a very low imperial height here, like 4ft? It must be a photo where you can see her full height. Doesn't matter how tall she is because you will tease her for being much shorter than you and that you couldn't ever meet her because people would think you are incestuous brother and little sister] (If you are American, and she looks latino, you could say "DO YOU HAVE PAPERS, MISS?" | |
| Dude.. if you were going to make a fake profile with photos of a girl from the internet.. you could find a more classy one who dresses a bit stylish and looks real. Use photos from a girl's tumblr next time :) Boys may believe this is a real profile.. Men don't :) Are you rich? [She will say NO, then you rip her for being poor, and that you couldn't marry her and be her house-husband, and that you are breaking up, and that you can't eat bread sandwich with bread filling everyday.. But if she mentions - but I'm bla bla, you go = Bla bla isn't enough, I need bla bla AND Rich.. But ask a casual friendly question] | |
| Dude.. if you were going to make a fake profile with photos of a girl from the internet.. you could find a more classy one who dresses a bit stylish and looks real. Use photos from a girl's tumblr next time :) Boys may believe this is a real profile.. Men don't :) [It's a real profile.. but now she has to qualify herself and prove that she is real. I have had 10/10 cute girls send me a photo of their ID card.. ] | |
| Hey! We finally talk after seeing each other on the front page so many times. This is a dream come true.... for you. I hope I don't disappoint [Ask casual friendly question, btw I ripped this from Stewart Francis! ] | |
| She may get TOTALLY PISSED OFF! But who cares, she responded and you two are talking, so you can change the context and the frame, and perhaps tone down a bit. | |
| This should be enough, but you spam these in private message or comment to some 100 girls at once. Perhaps 20 will reply, positive or negative. But I have pulled more from negative first reactions than positive ones. There will be such positive ones that she will immediately ask for your name etc. Be cool with them, don't play too much game, be direct, honest and try to get her number as soon as possible. | |
An important tip on comedy. You get better when you watch a lot of stand up comics such as Stewart Francis, Steven Wright.. And it's the character that's funny, not the jokes. For example: If she laughs and says "You are funny!" or something; you go :
I know. Thank you. That was just a little sample of the kind of fun you and I are going to have for the next 20 hours/years/all night [An exaggerated time period] - She laughs - Just kidding, we are not going to have fun. - She laughs more - Just sex - She laughs -... Like two REAL MEN.. - She laughs (Hey I'm not a man!!) - I know, that's a shame because If I weren't gay you would be so my type! - She laughs but knows you are kidding now, no more jokes for a while - I think you are beautiful, what's your name?
Practice, practice, practice.
A word on teasing: TEASING IS NOT INSULTING OR PUTTING HER DOWN. THESE ARE JUST OPENERS. SHE WILL NEVER REMEMBER THE FIRST THINGS YOU TOLD HER. SHE WILL REMEMBER HOW YOU ACTED, HOW YOU MADE HER FEEL, HOW YOU LEAD HER. TEASING IS, LIGHTLY POKING FUN AT SOMETHING SHE IS DOING, OR SAYING. LIGHTLY. FUN. AT SOMETHING SHE IS DOING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS, SO YOU CAN'T SPAM-TEASE 100 GIRLS, IT MUST BE SPECIAL FOR HER CASE. BEING MEAN AND FUNNY IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT THAN BEING MEAN-SPIRITED. DON'T ROAST OR INSULT HER TO FEED YOUR FRAGILE EGO, DON'T SAY ANYTHING MEAN IF SHE DOESN'T REPLY OR OUTRIGHT REJECTS YOU.
Disqualifiers
You have studied the outline, took some opener from my list or just made one up yourself and send different openers to hundreds of girls. Now they are replying. Some are pissed! Some just laugh. Some won't even reply. Some will seem shocked but start defending themselves (aww. don't tease her much any more.. she is really nice.. ), and some will outright try to put you down, they are so offended.
What we did in the first step is creating tension. We pulled a rubber band as far as we can, it's about to snap and hit her face; YOU DON'T WANT THAT. 100% all time tension is a good way to start fights. Not attracting women. You firmly, gently release the tension without letting it snap. "See? I wasn't going to hit you, it was just a joke" This is what causes laughter in people. Not the "funny" words or gestures.
Now we have some work to do. This is not copy paste any more (for now). You have to study WHAT MEN DO AT THIS PARTICULAR PLACE (Tinder/ OkCupid/Whatever place you're using.. ) . What every guy tells girls, how every guy acts like. Because you don't want to say those things (You won't anyways), but you want to remind her that you are not like them.
For example, at this place I use every loser tells a girl one of these things "beautiful" , "pretty", "I'd hit it" , "wanna go for coffee?" These things have lost their value. They are like the greenpeace donation workers on the street. They bug you everyday but you start ignoring them, the Broca's region within your brain has learned that these are the default (like a bad smell, or a familiar sight) and has begun making you ignore it.
What we can do is point out that every guy on that place says these things, and it's so boring, (don't say I ' M NOT LIKE THOSE GUYS, just don't. Just imply). You also learn what kind of photos they put, what kind of photos do the successful guys have? Copy the successful ones and don't copy the losers.
An example: "Did you notice how every loser here says "beautiful" "cute" "I'd fuck you" "are your parents terrorists because you are an atom bomb" to ALL GIRLS? Are those guys for real? Don't they get those things are not really manly and just get a "thank you" and (we will never speak again..) in parenthesis? I mean.. it's so obvious what they want and that they are desperate.." - "I'm sure every guy you have met here told you "beautiful" "pretty" "let's go for a coffee" as they have done to 123123512 other girls, but that nerdy one looks just like your match. Want me to talk to him and set you two up?" etc etc..
How she responded: Outright aggressive (this is good)
How you respond: Calm, cool, lightly poking fun at her not having a sense of sarcasm, assuring her that you weren't that serious, but didn't want to say the same things to her as every other loser on the site, compliment her very implicitly, and ask her name. Disqualify yourself in your next reply after she responds with "ohhhh.. you jerk, you got me!". If she doesn't, thank her for her time and drop it. Keep teasing in every message otherwise but not complimenting. The rule is two push one pull. Good feeling, good feeling, cold feeling, good feeling, good feeling, cold feeling etc..
How she responded: Positive, laughing, teasing you back, asking things about you (this is good)
How you respond: Keep it cool, commend her for having a sense of humour although she lacks so many other things, it's ON, compliment her once, disqualify yourself (explained below) , ask for her name, and whether she is single. It's ok to show interest at this point, you don't need to be too gamey.
How she responded: Cold "ya ya ya" (this is bad)
How you respond: Calm, cool, as if nothing happened, no compliments. This response has no sign of interest whatsoever, so you haven't attracted her so far, there is no reason to sign interest to a girl unless she has shown interest in you first. That's amateur and beta behaviour. (Mystery Method explains this nicely). One possibility is that she isn't interested at all. That's cool, you won't see her again. But the other possibility is that she is VERY OFFENDED (Do you really want to be with someone who gets offended at everything and can't take a joke?) in that case calmly poking fun at her not having a sense of sarcasm, with low energy so that you don't show any sign of interest, may work. Remember, she might not have replied at all. By dignifying your initial message, she showed somewhat of an interest. Don't mess it up. Follow up by disqualifying yourself but do not ask her name. That's for when you are sure she has some interest.
How she responded: Outright aggressive in a trashy way, insulting you, threatening you. (zzz... bad but you don't want such a person any way, this type of rejection is cool. It means you got her out of the way and you two wouldnt be a good match anyways)
How you respond: Calmly explain you were not being that serious. Tell her to have a nice day, compliment lightly (You don't want to ruin a woman's mood for the day just because you want to protect your ego.. Let whatever she told you go. You want to leave this woman better than you have found her) You don't need to respond to her again whatever she says. Just let go. It's not meant to be.
How to disqualify yourself?
You're gorgeous, but I have eaten girls like you for breakfast..
This won't work at all..
Too bad I'm gay, otherwise you would be SO my type..
You're beautiful, but beauty is common, there are other things I look for in a girl..
I don't think you could handle me...
I don't think we're a match at all, it's a shame you are so cute...
You're something, it's a good thing I never meet women on the internet, we can just relax and be friends...
etc. You get it.
What does asking name achieve?
It is a sign of interest. You are interested in her name. We usually don't show signs of interest before she does. But asking for her name on the internet where you can't read her body language achieves one thing: IF SHE ASKS FOR YOUR NAME BACK, GAME OVER, SHE IS ATTRACTED. Play it from there. If she doesn't.. There is a slight possibility that she is forgetful, or already knows you bla bla, but don't waste your time, just move on. This is experience from doing this to about 10.000 girls online. If she doesn't ask for your name back, you won't meet up and have hot steamy sex.
We will only continue chatting with the women who asked for our name back, this saves time. It helps make you look not desperate. You are a cool, confident, secure man with a lot of options, 100 girls are messaging you for some sweet love right now, you don't have the time to waste with a girl who doesn't seem interested. Remember: It's either "FUCK YEAH!" or "No". There isn't anything in between. She is either attracted, or not. There is no "some attracted" "too attracted". What you did with your first message was very polarizing. Even if she would be neutral, in the middle, standing on the fence leaning backwards and forwards: that first message either pushed her back into the "not attracted" side or made her fall into the "attracted" side. (Reference, Mark Manson, Models) This is binary from here on. If she asks for your name back and tells her name; you will mostly likely sleep with this girl UNLESS YOU MESS UP.
But u/cockycomedy , Mark Manson told me to always be natural and always be myself otherwise I wouldn't get laid! These are techniques and lines! This guy soliciting 1 on 1 skype seduction sessions at $200/hr on r/seduction says I should only listen to him and or I will die a virgin!
You should do what Mark Manson says, and perhaps achieve success, and let others do what David De Angelo or u/cockycomedy says and achieve their success. Some will do what RSD Tyler Durden says and achieve success. I have seen naturals do the exact things he does at bars, and go home with two girls that I was pondering if I should approach. There is no "one way" or "one true style" to be good at game. There are foundations but everybody is different. Besides a lot of guys who are being told to "be yourself" are bad at game because their "himself" sucks, that's why they are trying to find ways to get better.
Remember... if you believe it will work, anything will work. I used to go up to girls with 100s of blood donation forms in my backpack, take one out and pretend to fill it, but get confused and ask her for help, and crack jokes as she helped me fill the questionnaire with questions like "Have you ever had sex with a man" - look at her nervously - OF COURSE NOT! LET'S DRAW A GIANT X THERE! WHAT DO THEY THINK I AM! - "Have you had a new partner in the last 6 months" - "Nah.. I'm good.. wait.. YES I HAVE! A LOT OF THEM! TOO BAD, DOES THAT MEAN I CAN'T DONATE BLOOD?!". The red cross place got bugged that I was taking 50 donations forms every day so they put them somewhere inside where you have to ask the nurse to give you one. I started printing them at a color-printing center. It worked. Will it work for you? Don't bother, just go talk to her.. But I believe it would work, and it did.
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