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[–]ZhenBaoYu 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why would you ever want to manipulate someone. Acting congruently with you is how INFLUENCE people to behave how you want.
Manipution is such a waste of your mental energy.
You don't need "tips and tricks" to attract girls. let me break it down for you. Girls like boys. Simple as that. Maybe not every boy, but they definitely like boys. Express your intent. Have fun. That's what will set your free.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I asked that to understand the book better
[–]masteryido 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You shouldn't base your entire system of beliefs just on Manson's model. Everyone develops their own system of beliefs from knowledge and experience. That's why you still got guys running old school game and succeeding. Thats why you got people who prefer one instructor over another.
This sub loves to praise Models, but I think it is more of a amorphorous, feel good book rather than having much practicality. It's an attractive option when all you need to do is something easy like work towards improving your own life compared to gruelling hours spent talking to girls.
Alot of things he writes do make sense, but don't buy into the dream he is trying to sell.
[–]___rich___ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I only heard of Models this morning, and your post makes it sound like the Rich Dad, Poor Dad of the PUA world. I am seriously wondering if it's worth reading.
P.S. It's spelled amorphous.
[–]Arcenturion 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm 22 days late, but I agree 100% with /u/masteryido 's opinion on Models
[–]masteryido 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My man
[–]Arcenturion 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
yep, it's annoying how much that book gets worshipped and even touted as "the only book you should read, all others are damaging" when other books have been far more helpful
[–]masteryido 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a sad state of affairs. People have literally dedicated their lives to unravelling female psychology and creating techniques to allow the every man to have a fighting chance in this game, and Manson just tries to shit all over that by saying "just be yourself and be happy".
The whole point of game is trying to remove the randomness factor from things and have it be more of a science with practical elements. Manson would rather you feel good than give you practical advice.
He is probably out there using PUA tech, whether conscious or unconsciously while telling others to just be happy with themselves and that will be enough.
[–]Arcenturion 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly. You should write a review of it on Amazon. Your sentiment is shared by a few other people:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R9AJSOVQYL5HJ/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3L8YJIHWOQ114/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3CL08AQ2FS45A/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1463750358
[–]masteryido 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was one of the most disappointing things I have ever read. I was expecting so much more. You can completely skip it.
[–]WIA20XX 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Models was written by a guy that didn't like Mystery Method.
MM is "fake and inauthentic"
Models is "real and vulnerable"
So if you agree with his premise, then you agree with his methodology. Agree with the premise, everything else is largely logical.
Both are premises.
According to Mystery, girls are attracted to men that have either survival value or replication value.
Do you believe that?
There are lots of other premises.
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