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[β]throwawaymusur 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thats why all these puas are garbage and cingey as hell, alot of socially awkward guys follow them and they end up worse from using stupid techniques they saw on youtube
[β]Colencence 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LoL the age old debate of being natural vs following scripts Well people has to start from somewhere, So Yes and No for me because People also need to realize that game is just one aspect of life
first you start by improving yourself, then women
[β]STD_Tyler 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
You said that we should be "Interesting".
Do you think stand up comedians improvise? Or memorise a script?
Yes, improvisation is lazy and bad, you should memorise certain structures, jokes, replies..etc,
Improvising is not optimal...
Let me give you an example:
You see a girl in a bar or whatever , her friends are taking photos of her.
Option 1: I think you are cute and i am here to meet you , hi!
Option 2 : Are you a celebrity ? Cause people are taking photos of you (playfully)...
Which opener is better , the improvised or the memorised ?
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[β]throwawaymusur 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yeah its like when you and your buddies are roasting each other, youve probably planned on what to say
im sure even natural studs do that. little things like that (knowing what to say) dont only apply to women, they apply to everything, for example, job interview, confrontation, presentations, things of that nature
i guess you can call it an ice breaker but dont get to involved in this pua garbage because and be yourself. the reason why i said work on yourself is because, when you change your lifestyle, it shows though your personality and your aura
[β]QuantumShit00 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree and disagree.
You see there is a structure to a game. If you break down anyones game, someone who is good with women. Any attractive men. You will find that they all have in common a few things that they do the same. They are all following a similar pattern. Knowingly or unknowingly.
But, they are all tailoring it to their own personality. To their own beliefs. Not changing it. Tailoring it. The jist is the same but the outer layer is different for everyone. You dont memorize the lines, you memorize a map. You follow a map, but you dont read on how to walk through the map, should you run? Should you walk? Maybe crawl. That is on you. You have your own outlook at life, your own values and you act according to them.
So you see. In order to sleep with lots of women you need to do follow few basic rules. What you do outside of these rules is you being yourself. Confident, lighthearted, smart, funny. But you dont use lines to project something you are not. You dont memorize lines that are not congruent with you. You read up on fashion and try steal someones style, but you still wear what you like, what represents your personality, not someone elses. Not something you are not.
There. Like with everything in life there is a middle ground. Instead of taking a side and following one of 2 extremes, you merge them together. You find that middle ground and that is where you operate. By being yourself but in the back of the head knowing what you have to do in order to get the girl. So lets stop arguing and start approaching, eh?
[β]throwawaymusur 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that common thing that players have is called confidence. they hit on a lot of women. confidence is the root
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I mean opening lines arent that bad, its pretty normal, whats bad is pretending to be someone your not and trying real hard to manipulate.
[β]getyourlifeplease -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with EVERYTHING you said - 100%. But (hear me out on this one) it takes a semi adept self aware guy to understand himself and start meeting girls, reading body language, picking up on social cues, and assertively asking girls out, etc. This sub is NOT made those kind of guys π€·ββοΈ. In here you have the anxiety ridden, depressed, no social skills whatsoever, never spoke to a girl let alone touched one,...type guys. They come to sub, see the recommendations for this and that PUA, and they try to clone themselves into that persons philosophy. Prob is...the socially awkward guys forsnt understand that you dont have to do that verbatim, and telling him to "be yourself" only leads to him being more alone and rejected (usually because girls dont really like "him" as he is).
[β]throwawaymusur 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah true, thats why they need to work on themselves by having hobbies, being health and so on and the awkwradness fades, this is from personal experience
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