Been reading up on here and elsewhere for a bit now. Usually I ask questions but I learned something today that I think is important, at least for me it was. Since I started trying to improve with woman and having a more active dating life, I would usually get really invested because its a skill that I think I need to improve upon. Getting too invested really led me nowhere. I kept trying to make things happen thinking that I could change an already decided outcome (her already being turned off). Dont force anything. If its not making you happy, invest your energy elsewhere.

This post may be redundant but it didnt click for me until today. Sorry if its already been talked about