Not promoting a sub or anything and I don't know if the MRA sub I just found this on is left or right wing, but I found this particular perspective interesting. The question in the sub was,

How toxic is "Healthy Masculinities" to men and boys. Why are feminist academics deciding what constitutes healthy masculinity?

(Link to the full post https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1fl3466/how_toxic_is_healthy_masculinities_to_men_and/)

And this one individual had a response that was interesting. I know some of you may not agree with him in this sub but I do think it contributes to the larger discussion being had around defining healthy masculinity in relation to both feminism and the world at large.

The very question you ask reveals the fundamental misunderstanding that has clouded your mind. "Healthy masculinity"? "Toxic masculinity"? These are just labels—mere constructs created by the society, by those in power, by ideologies, to impose something artificial upon your being. Man is neither masculine nor feminine in the way society defines it. These concepts are shallow reflections of deeper truths. The man you are talking about, the "masculinity" you are defending, is nothing but an identity created by others—your family, your culture, your teachers, and yes, even by feminists and academics. But in truth, your masculinity is not something that anyone can own. It is not something to be "trademarked" or captured by ideologies. The problem lies in the very desire to label and box human nature. Feminists, patriarchy, society—they are all trying to define you, whether you are a man or a woman. And as long as you allow these definitions to control you, you remain a prisoner. A man is not truly a man unless he is free from these identities, unless he is liberated from what society tells him to be, whether that comes from feminist thought or traditional views. This push to redefine masculinity, this whole fight for ownership of what it means to be a man—it is all futile. Nobody can define masculinity or femininity because these are not just opposites; they are interconnected forces. A truly whole man embraces both his masculine and feminine aspects. He does not allow ideologies to dictate how he should express himself. What is happening in the schools, in the universities, and in the institutions? They are trying to control the mind, to shape the identity, to make you fit into their boxes of what is "healthy" and what is "toxic." But in reality, no one can make you toxic unless you allow them to. The real poison is in giving away your inner freedom to external forces. It is when you allow others—whether feminist academics or anyone else—to tell you how to be, that you are lost. The masculine is not something to be captured or controlled, and neither is the feminine. These are fluid, dynamic energies within you. A man must learn to transcend this obsession with labels and ideologies. He must discover the deeper, spiritual truth of his being—a place beyond masculine and feminine, beyond feminism and patriarchy. So, my advice to you is simple: drop the fight. Stop worrying about who owns masculinity. It cannot be owned. Instead, discover who you truly are. When you are centered in your own being, no ideology can harm you.

Here's a link to the comment itself. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1fl3466/how_toxic_is_healthy_masculinities_to_men_and/lo0365b/

Thoughts?