How do you express your conviction to other people in real life?

hendrixski · 2025-02-21T11:41:20+00:00

So I’m definitely more on the left-wing part of men’s rights advocating

Me too. Check out r/leftWingMaleAdvocates

How to make sure these people know that I don’t get along with the men-bashing/generalizing mentality that is so present online? How do I do it in a way that doesn’t seem like I’m just another misogynistic weirdo (because that’s the image we have, apparently)?

This is tricky. I think people like Richard Reeves have found a way to do it successfully. Unfortunately it often involves reciting certain platitudes about women's rights, too.

Here's how I would say it: "I don't get along well with people who bash either men or women. It's like a toxic online attitude that i find offensive. When talking to me, do not disparage any group based on its race, gender, perceived gender, creed, sexual orientation or disability. Have I made my boundaries clear?"

HTH.

Mysterious-Citron875 · 2025-02-21T11:51:24+00:00

Personally, if I don't like something, I just say it passionately. But it's true that if you want to keep your connections, you should at least try to speak calmly and slowly, while the aim of your speech is to spread facts and highlight hypocrisy/double standarts of people who opposes you. If they call you misogynistic just answer logically, and if it really hurts maybe it's time to change your friends.

Being attractive (to women) and nice/helpful outside of these conversations will also help you keep your connections. So you know, go to the gym a bit, dress well and don't stink, and be willing to help people out or have a nice chat with them here and there.

_BeefJerk · 2025-02-21T12:43:18+00:00

The same way I do here. I speak my mind, I don't shy from hard conversations. I'm open to being corrected, but I don't compromise my values.

Any potential relationship needs to be put down like a rabid animal if she's not on board. Without regret or remorse.

Harden up.

sweetb00bs · 2025-02-21T11:32:31+00:00

Just be urself bro

tilldeathdoiparty · 2025-02-21T23:27:15+00:00

You’re learning about boundaries, you just need to be upfront and forward with it, if they get offended, then fuck em, on to the next.

Get it out there early so you know, why waste time trying to be someone/something you’re not and then setting this boundary later on is nearly impossible.

You’ll end up pushing lots of people away, but if they aren’t honouring your boundaries, why would you want them in your life?

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2025-02-22T04:22:31+00:00

Don't hang out with Leftists. I mean the Left is about patriarchal "oppression". Sure, some like you can try to be Leftist and MRA (not easy though), but predominantly, the Left hates men. Your odds are better if you avoid other Leftists.

TopBlacksmith6538 · 2025-02-23T12:11:17+00:00

So I’m definitely more on the left-wing part of men’s rights advocating.

They don't care about you brother. Not saying the right does either, but the left doesn't as well. Individuals sure, as a whole don't expect it.

How do I do it in a way that doesn’t seem like I’m just another misogynistic weirdo (because that’s the image we have, apparently)?

For a lot of people you can't. If you say anything that goes against what they say they'll label you another "incel basement dweller" or whatever new buzzword they're obsessed with.

Honestly arguing with them doesn't even do anything at this point. I used to believe in the philosophy that people with different ideas can have a conversation and learn from each other, but these days it never turns out well. The scales are tipped to one side. The social backlash for arguing these things and the risk is too great most of the time and if it spread, and especially gets to your boss it's bad news. Instead of being the one to bring it up or engage, tread lightly and observe from the background and you'll find out which people actually care about your issues or at least respect men. If you find out someone isn't cool, you can start to distance yourself and move on to other friends.

For a life partner you would probably want a woman who's more traditional, but honestly that's kinda hard to find these days in the USA so be prepared to look very hard or try your luck dating in other country.

Comfortable_Change_6 · 2025-02-21T11:38:51+00:00

When they say something negative about you or other males

Make a note to them (quick and curt)

can be formed as a joke if you are good.

And continue the conversation with other people or even them.

Best when they can’t notice you

Nipping them in the bud.

(Operant conditioning)

Cheers 🍻

Title	How do you express your conviction to other people in real life?
Author	oneblindspy
Upvotes	25
Comments	8
Date	February 21, 2025 11:13 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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