So I was lurking in the WGTOW sub and I noticed a general narrative.

They say they are the ones that are truly GTOW and MGTOW are just pretending but actually are actually misogynistic and want to subjugate women.

My question to them is where? On both the MGTOW subs I only see posts implying why men shouldn’t marry.

Some posts have crude language or hateful rhetoric I agree so I understand why they thing we hate them even though I don’t think that’s the case but where excited are the posts where we are saying we want to go back to 50s or worse subjugate women? Most MGTOW I’ve talked to realise that both traditional and liberal societies benefit women in marriage so where do they see those posts?

MGTOW as a philosophy in fact makes logical sense but in modern society where women only have advantages in marriage and in society in general, WGTOW as a philosophy sounds like victim LARPING with added layers.