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How did you accept the whole truth about the red pill philosophy?

entropychange
May 12, 2015
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Title How did you accept the whole truth about the red pill philosophy?
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entropychange
Upvotes 2
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Date May 12, 2015 9:29 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/35rb1z/how_did_you_accept_the_whole_truth_about_the_red/
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You can dislike the negative qualities of women, and seek to minimize their presence in your own personality. That's the whole point of RPW. You can admire the positive qualities of men as well, because they are worth respecting and appreciating.

That said, you also have to recognize and be wary of negative male qualities. You should also admire the positive qualities of women. No one is "all good" or "all bad" - idolizing one sex while demonizing the other doesn't lead to understanding or balance - only delusion and insecurity.

Femininity and masculinity are meant to thrive off of each other, and you can only understand/appreciate one when the other is present.

Be angry, if that's what you need, but understand that anger and hate aren't a destination - they're a rest-stop on a road to someplace far better.

Edit: You have a very extreme, unbalanced view of both men and women. You need to figure out how to even that out a bit more. Respect men that exhibit good behaviors and earn your respect, but understand that doesn't make all men amazing. Respect women that exhibit good behaviors, and earn your respect - and don't assume that all women are evil/corrupt.

[–]entropychange[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are very right about my extreme views of genders, I can see that now too. I guess growing up without a father made me idealize men more than some if them deserve. Also, I really have a wonderful husband and our male friends are all examples for me of how great males could be. My experience growing up in my family, as well as making bad decisions to be friends with untruthful women had shown me how dangerous and egoistic women can be.

However, I'm still having a few close female friends now. It's just after I found the red pill, I cannot help myself from analyzing what they say and do. It makes me sad to see that most just run through the programing like it's a movie script.

[–]nomnompuffs 3 points3 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Stop trying to be a man and appreciate the unique role and powers you have as a woman -- learn to be happy as a woman: stop trying to force yourself to find fulfillment in things that you don't actually find fulfillment in~

[–]MrsBlooper0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

the unique role and powers you have as a woman

Like what? I have similar feelings to OP, in that I just don't want to be a woman sometimes.

[–]nomnompuffs 2 points2 points2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

@ /u/MrsBlooper and /u/entropychange:

Hi, the problem is that generations of Feminism have left women out of the water, unable to properly interact with men. Women are no longer trained on how to interact with men; they are literally lost. I like to use this example: Young men are explicitly trained on how to treat, and interact with women. You often see a boy being sharply smacked and told, "You don't speak that way to a lady". Boys are taught that women deserve a certain minimum level of esteem, EVEN unmerited.

When was the last time you saw a little girl being smacked and told, "You don't speak that way to a man"? Women in this generation are utterly lost. It's a matter of training, nothing else. What I'm trying to tell you is that women are not irritants or insufferable parasites.

Womens' contributions are not manipulation; they're soothing and appreciated. Wearing a pushup-bra isn't manipulative: it's desirable and it shows your partner that you care about availing yourself to meet their needs. Wearing makeup tells men that you are willing to at least try to fulfill the male fantasy of the available, receptive wife who puts in some effort.

These are things that bring happiness. They don't evoke contempt or anger. Be careful not to misinterpret the "anger" and vitriol on r/TRP as being directed at "Woman" as an entity, but rather, interpret it this way: it is anger at the fact that when those men grew up, they found out that the princess they were promised they would find at the end of the rainbow was stolen by "Feminism".

r/TRP, r/MRA, r/MGTOW, PUA, and every single Manosphere is all just men beginning to show anger at finding that the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is a lie, and they want to either get rid of, or get back at "Feminism".

99% of them would leave that TRP vitriol if they truly found a Unicorn. That's because women are a greatly important, soothing, and rewarding addition to mens' lives, WHEN THEY ARE IN THEIR NATURAL, PEACEABLE STATE.

Guess what? You're here. You're on the road to returning to being a peaceable partner. Cheer up~

[–]entropychange[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You make very interesting points and I agree with one but must disagree with another. What I mean specifically is that it is very wrong to smack boys for any reason. Most of the world societies physically abuse their children, same was true in my family (for accidentally breaking something or telling what they hated to hear) and I don't think that anything constructive can grow from someone else's pain. I am for peaceful parenting and I believe that this the road to a healthier society.

I think you're right that growing with feminism ideals, women now have trouble understanding men. Maybe some generations ago, wisdom on how to have a good and strong family was passed from mother to daughter, it's not done anymore in most cases. My grandmom, for example, tried very hard to teach me that I must lie to my husband to keep the family secrets hidden cause they are sooo scary booooo. Thank god I had brains not to listen to her, and our conversations with my husband started a healthy grieving process about my childhood history and it also strengthen our relationship.

Thank you for explaining me that make up and push up bras are not so evil after all. I don't mind doing what will make my husband more excited and happy.

Regarding communities like men going their own way, I can see where they are coming from. Their philosophies are born from empirical data, and it's very sad for me to see that some women put resources gathering at a higher priority than their children will ever occupy. If women actually understood how they smack young child's brain and psychic by divorce (probably for the rest of their lives because they need a dad) than maybe some would start working on their relationships instead. A lot of food for thought.

Edited: grammar

[–]entropychange[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright, I think you might be on something. In my life so far, I just don't really have female role models that would inspire me and who would also share the red pill attitude towards life and so on. I know I have female powers, which are at the same time manipulative in some ways. Like my look, for example, putting on make up, and using pushup bra seems like manipulation to me now. Regarding behaving with my SO or other people in a way that I know will get me what I may want, seems also like a manipulation and lies. And this skill that most women have on some level is something that I forgot to put in my hate list above. Thank you for your reply, you might be right.

Edit: grammar

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