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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
If TRP teaches you anything it should be that if your SMV is high enough, it wouldn't matter if they had a boyfriend or not. Your SMV either isn't as high as you think it is, or you have no game. Ways to improve both are in the side bar.
[–]EsteraMC points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Your SMV either isn't as high as you think it is, or you have no game. Ways to improve both are in the side bar.
I think you are unable to read. Didn't you read the part where I said my SMV is improved to maximum I could improve? Or you didn't read that?
I can't transplant Brad Pitts face on my body, so it is useless to say I should improve my "SMV". I think when you are wearing shoes worth of 2000$, have zero fucks attitude, low-inhibition, alpha male body language, jacked torso, besepoke suit, status, money, height, well kept face and hair and have no problems speaking with anyone your SMV does not really get higher than that.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well you're evidently still incredibly thin-skinned so maybe that's where you can focus your energy.
What do you mean thin-skinned? What kind of esoteric BS is that? If I was thin skinned I would not be approaching girls.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It means you're a sensitive pussy who takes to an internet forum for constructive criticism then gets overly defensive when he doesn't like the answers he's being given.
Again, give me something specific. Don't be vague and bullshity. Read my post if you think I'm bullshitting you,, I don't bullshit, I don't e-stat. I give precise facts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/6borw7/i_fail_with_girls_and_want_to_kill_myself_can_you/
[–]Docbear642 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think you're a bit of a sperg dude. You aesthetically probably should have success with women but clearly your social skills are shit . No one looks at your metrics when they're thinking about fucking you they do think about whether you are fun and make them comfortable though .
[–]RedImprovement points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You sound bitter and angry. Have abundance. Text the next girl in line. Also you can never max your SMV.
You sound bitter and angry.
Dark triad is a good trait to have. Or you think I would have a wide social circle and a lot of friends if I spoke like this IRL? Obviously I'm not an autist when conversing with women.
Have abundance.
Esoteric plain hamster text that means literally nothing.
Text the next girl in line.
I texted all girls in line, all of them rejected me, ghosted me, ignored me or had boyfriends me.
Also you can never max your SMV.
Just words. Tell me how to improve my SMV then to the point where it would actually increase my dating success? Or you pretend not to be able to read the obvious facts (no e-stats) that I listed in my post? Still not good enough for plain Janes eh?
[–]Nay20035 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Dude stop bashing good advice.
Give me specific good advice, not vague bullshit like "become better". BETTER HOW? Tell me specifically what to do?
I'm not going to a poor person and saying "dude, just like...become rich you know"
[–]Nay20030 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok. Talk to more women or give me a sample convo between you and a woman
"Hey, can I have your opinion for a second. What would be a cool way to approach a woman you don't know but find interesting. / What do generally girls think when strange guys approach them? For example how do you feel right now? Oh where are you from, whats your name? etc.c..."
"Hey what is the time?...hah, nevermind, I just wanted to start a conversations, because I found you interesting"
"Hey, I think you are from my faculty, no? Really, I thought I have seen you something. Oh well, lets get to now each other, my name is X ,what is yours Y?"
She says "I don't meet with strangers", I say "Well, lets get to know each other then, let me guess, you are studying medicine right? No? Law? No, engineering. Yeah, I study X, too. Yeah, I have friends from that faculty, too. Yeah, I know of [insert her subject]. So why did you decide to study [her subject]? Are you local, around here? Hey, listen, I suggest we meet up again, Saturday, what you say? Give me your number and lets decide [give her my phone to enter her number]. I have to go now, see ya"
[–]landon0421 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"i don't meet with strangers"
me: "too bad, I won't remember your name"
your welcome, that's $20
[–]Nay20030 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like your doing great! Just picking wrong ones
[–]Kirosate0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kaizen - constant everyday improvement. Never stop improving. You are arrogant to say you are maxed out.
[–]McCoop_4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think your desperation shows through your interactions. It is possible that your no fucks attitude allows you to be direct and aggressive but it could be perceived as desperately wanting them which would kill the excitement. It seems like you dress and behave with the intent to impress others which is probably telegraphed to them when you interact. I think this is most likely since your happiness in life has been placed on having sex with these girls so you lose outcome independence. There is such a thing as trying too hard and it may be the problem here. I'm assuming you don't do this with them, but talking about how much money you make or how much you work out can appear as qualifying. If you focus more on doing things you enjoy, you might meet someone with similar interests and work from there. Banging random sluts won't lead to your happiness. Also, your standards might be too high; women's standards are definitely inflates from social media so it's possible that while you think you are attractive they have been exposed to better. Just because you are confident enough to talk to attractive women doesn't mean they will all fuck you, maybe go for some mildly attractive women and see if you can start there and narrow down your issues.
I think your desperation shows through your interactions.
It doesn't, because my ex-LTR said she thought I'm alpha as fuck guy when she first met me and I literally had the same approach and everything.
Those of us who are not autists (i'm not, shrink confirmed) can be normal among normies which I'm doing.
I definitely do not look like a guy who is desperate.
It is possible that your no fucks attitude allows you to be direct and aggressive but it could be perceived as desperately wanting them which would kill the excitement.
So should I be aggressive or should I be nice guy? Contradictions, contradictions...
It seems like you dress and behave with the intent to impress others which is probably telegraphed to them when you interact.
Lol, what kind of hamstering bullshit is this. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. TRP TOLD ME TO DRESS WELL. I DID IT. DO NOT FUCKING CONTRADICT TRP TENANTS. DRESSING WELL = HIGHER SMV.
I think this is most likely since your happiness in life has been placed on having sex with these girls so you lose outcome independence.
Vague esoteric bullshit hamstering. Disregarded.
There is such a thing as trying too hard and it may be the problem here.
What are you smoking? Literally everyone who improves their SMV is trying hard. I was told to try hard to ahcieve what I want in life. Can you stop conflicting views in AT LEAST ONE POST? How can you conflict so much? TRP teaches you to try hard, work hard, play hard, improve SMV. It is what Alphas do. God damn!
I'm assuming you don't do this with them, but talking about how much money you make or how much you work out can appear as qualifying.
I'm not telling how much money I make to anyone except TRP. You really think I go to girls and say I have a million or anything? LOL, I'm not dumb.
Banging random sluts won't lead to your happiness.
Yeah, well, 30 years and 1 lay. You really think my male instinct does not want me to get laid more?
Also, your standards might be too high; women's standards are definitely inflates from social media so it's possible that while you think you are attractive they have been exposed to better.
Read my stats again. How much better can they be exposed to? TRP taught to go for what you want. More contradictions. I have above average pretty much everything.
Just because you are confident enough to talk to attractive women doesn't mean they will all fuck you, maybe go for some mildly attractive women
What the fuck is this bullshit advice? Why would I go for someone I'm not attracted to? What are you smoking? Is this TRP or is this cuck central? If I worked to improve myself to this point what logic is there not going for hot girls I actually feel attracted to? 0 logic.
[–]McCoop_0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is a difference between trying hard privately and actively appearing/expressing how hard you try. People think more highly of individuals who are successful/impressive but show no indication of how hard they work for it. It gives them an aura of superhuman qualities. I'm not telling you not to put in effort, "trying too hard" is a saying where you pursue a woman too aggressively and kill the excitement or come across as desperate. It has to feel natural; it is possible that you may feel comfortable talking to these women but they do not. It could be something about your tone, voice, or body language where it comes across as an act rather than genuine. I'd say just keep at it and something good will come.
Desperation comes across in behavior far more than appearance. An attractive man can come across as desperate if he aims too low, or pursues too strongly. A man with many options is less invested in each one working out. Not all unattractive men are desperate, being comfortable with who they are and going for girls in their reach draws no attention to it. Women will be far more forgiving of desperate behaviour in the attractive case, but it doesn't mean he is immune to being seen as desperate.
The main point is with only one lay, you are putting excessive importance in banging more girls and on top of it you choose these extremely hot girls (constantly faced with guys advances). If you are as great as you think you are, there should be no issue landing some of these girls. However like when applying to top tier schools, if you truly aren't good enough they will decline your applications (they can do better because they are exposed to more top tier candidates). Its possible that you need to lower your standards a little bit to adjust to the real world or continue to improve in other areas. Landing any attractive girl will help alleviate the weight you put on yourself.
I've never said you were dumb, you gave us very little detail in this post and asked for an explanation. It is possible that you are refusing to see your own flaws because it is easier to say all women are flawed.There is a lot of actionable advice in this thread but it seems you are looking for us to bash these women rather than give you constructive criticism.
How many attempts have you made? It is also possible that these women were all taken.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Even if you've increased your SMV, it's obviously not high enough. There is no roof for SMV. If Brad Pitt wanted to, he could increase his SMV.
You have a long way to go, and realizing that every girl has a boyfriend is proof of this. And let me tell you, they don't.
Yeah, read that post and tell me how my SMV is not good enough to get a 7/10 again.
Cool hamster brah
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The fact that you want to kill yourself over not getting girls tells me everything I need to confirm what I said.
It's obvious you don't want advice. What the fuck are you doing asking for it?
[–]GunPostal points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It's their anti slut defense. Tell them "hey hold on, I have a personal policy of not making anyone my gf within the first five minutes. Let's be cool, have fun and we can still be friends." Then do have fun and screen her for traits you want on a girl. If your game is tight enough, you will find if she really has a bf or if she is willing to cheat on his bf.
When she told me she will not be able to meetup on Weekend, because she and her bf are driving to city X, I completely ignored that and said "How about another day then. Think about it..."
Is that what I was supposed to answer?
[–]wiredtobeweird1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're responding on her schedule. Make plans. Ask her to meet you. If she doesn't, ghost.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Why are they saying "there are no good men" when they literally all have boyfriends?
Ignore their bullshit on this.
Women always have something going on.... they are never fully single and rarely fully committed.
Stop aiming for beta.... don't ask them their situation... don't imply you are looking for long term.... act as if they have a FWB and are looking for an upgrade.
I'm doing this, they still don't want to go on dates.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If women don't want to date you, they are either in committed relationships elsewhere or you are not attractive enough.
You either need to be more attractive, or find other women.
What other answer are you looking for here?
they are either in committed relationships elsewhere or you are not attractive enough.
Cool vague post brah. I posted pic of my body, so ugly right? That on 6'2''.
How? How is it physically possible? I don't have deformities, I have straight white teeth, clean skin, I shower and groom myself. I dress in bespoke clothes, balmain, top tier Hermes, LV, Gucci shit. Shoes cost literally 1500$.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
First of all - you are not entitled to our help. So quit shit-talking the people who are trying to help you.
You ask for help without giving much information, so we are doing our best with the information you give us.
We are donating our time to help a complete stranger who will in no way repay our help or kindness. Think about that for a second. Let it sink in.
You are asking for help, we are trying to help, and you are insulting us.
I want to see a little humility and appreciation before I help you further.
/r/asktrp is for that
I gave plenty of info, if you need more, just ask.
So why has /r/asktrp sub created then?
I apologise.
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
ok.
Your body is in good shape - low bodyfat. Women love this if they can see it, although in clothes they probably won't know it's there.
You want to get laid. Women are giving you a shot, they are going on dates. Then they say "I have a boyfriend". This is in many cases not quite true. What's happening is that they have someone.... and want to see if you're better. If you are, they're single. If not, they "have a boyfriend" to excuse themselves from seeing more of you.
You really are engaging in covert contracts while also believing what women say. You are trying to leverage their statements into a view of the world, and this is a mistake. You say "they all have boyfriends", and this is not true. You say they say "where have all the good men gone", and this is indeed something they say but it's not literally true..... it's really post-wall women whining that they can't lock down a beta like they could at age 23.
You say things like "what was asktrp created then".... as if by creating that sub, we are somehow obligated to help you.
All your thinking is designed around your entitlement. "This was said, so this other thing must be true!" and "Asktrp was set up, so strangers are obligated to help me!". You're trying to undermine my points with questions rather than accepting what I say.
And yes, this really is fundamental to your problem with girls. You are acting entitled. You are demanding. You are saying "I do this, I am high SMV, girls said this thing, therefore sit on my dick".
This is fundamentally a fucked up way to look at the world, and women are sensitive to it.
You're attractive. They go on dates with you. They sense something is off. They mysteriously have a boyfriend. Then you complain to TRP "TRP isn't true! I have high SMV! women won't fuck me!". Not sure what you expect to happen as a result of this.
You get laid by being high value (internally as well as externally), offering some value, being the kind of man she wants to be with, and teasing her mercilessly because YOU are the high value one, not her. You put value on yourself by subtly acting like you are high value. She has a CHANCE with you.
Women want the guy they can only just get. You tease them. You have fun with them. You STOP CARING about what she says or does because it's really not relevant to who you are or what happens in your life. She's number five in your life, AFTER your mission, your other options. And you're giving her a chance. You're auditioning her..... not in a judgmental way, but in a "maybeeeeeeeeeee" way. And you never ever accept her as a certainty, you are always ready to walk away.
Other men manage this stuff. TRP is telling you the truth, but it's very hard to see what you're doing wrong on dates without seeing you in action.
BUT...... you need to drop this whole entitlement thing. This whole "you said this therefore sex" or "TRP says this therefore you're wrong / help me / give me / answer me". It's fucked up and repellent even here on text, god knows how it is in real.
Instead it's more like...... you do things, and other people do things, and that's all there is to it. You have influence but not control. Things sometimes work in your favour and sometimes don't. There are no certainties, and neither we nor anyone else owes you anything. Set yourself (and others) free of these covert contracts you're building.
You really are engaging in covert contracts while also believing what women say. You are trying to leverage their statements into a view of the world, and this is a mistake.
I don't understand what you are saying here.
You're attractive. They go on dates with you. They sense something is off. They mysteriously have a boyfriend.
They don't go on dates with me. They ghost me via text.
There are no certainties, and neither we nor anyone else owes you anything.
Oh, cool, then. I guess world doesn't owe "life" to normies then also :) Just don't be surprised when something bad happens. Remember "nobody owes you anything"!
[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's normal for some to flake.
Ok.
I am sorry, I thought you wanted help, but you are going to fight me and be combative on everything I say, refuting everything I say, this time with sarcasm.
Your point is absolutely worthless and is based on the "just world fallacy" (look it up) and other covert-contract based thinking.
This all proves you don't want to learn and you don't want to improve. You want to prove that you're right or prove that I am wrong.
You are fundamentally blocking your own progress, and TRP can't help you until you can get past this.
But this is tryhard. I was told by TRP member that tryhard is bad. How is it not tryhard?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
internalize the stuff I referred to in the PUA material. IT's not tryhard, becuase you aren't trying.
Before the art, a punch was just a punch, a kick ws just a kick When I trained the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick was no longer a kick When I matered the art, a punch was just a punch, a kick was just a kick
-- Bruce Lee
This is why I suggested PUA material. Your covert contracts, entitlements as Matty calls em... You don't know where they are becuase you aren't looking for them. When you start practicing approaches, openers, comfort building, kino, escalation, seduction, LMR, text game. you break it down, see where you are fucking up, and then try different things until you see one that works. Then you do it enough times that it's effortless.
Call it tryhard if you like. Would you say cutting to 10% BF is tryhard?
[–]PM_ME_GIRLS_WGLASSES0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are getting all the advice that you need from this thread and you're reflecting all of them, you also come off as angry/frustraded and you demand tailored solutions to your needs
Plain and simple, you SMV is not a high as you think, and you know it
sure, in your head you might think you are a god, but if, using your own words, you "texted all girls in line, all of them rejected me" you can look at it from 2 perspectives: you can A, increase your worth, since that if it were so high as you said, at least ONE would have a positive answer. Or b, forget about those girls, stop being bitter and chase some more.
No, I wont tell you specifics, a) I dont know you, b) its not my job and c) this sub is filled with good sugestions, specially the sidebar
If you honestly think you reached your peak (HIGHLY doubtful) and cant get a single woman, give up on the game, join MGTOW
[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Improve your game
How? Read my approach and tel lme how tp improve
[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You'd have to post texting screenshots, and 21st least some pics of u. Don't post pics of your face tho.
Its in a different language, so texting screenshots won't help you one bit. I don't use smileys, I'm polite, but assertive and use texting for logistics only, all what TRP taught me.
[–]LordThunderbolt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's not really saying much. What language is it? Post that shit, we'll google translate
[–]Bearfost43 points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Maybe you come off as a bragging douche, you have good stats thought, so it might be your game.
maybe this video can help you?
https://youtu.be/G2H9o6z1oKU
[–]CouchPotato810 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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