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Male-Female friendships. Can men and women be friends? How is the dynamic different VS male friends or girlfriends/plates?

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July 31, 2015
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Title Male-Female friendships. Can men and women be friends? How is the dynamic different VS male friends or girlfriends/plates?
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Date July 31, 2015 7:22 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Can men and women be friends?

Only if there is no chance the man and woman will be attracted to each other, and only if you both enhance each other's lives.

Female friends are great because they can be social proof, and they can also introduce you to their friends. But true female friends are rare.

How is the dynamic different VS male friends or girlfriends/plates?

The dynamic with a female friend is slightly different because AWALT. Meaning, as a woman, she doesn't think as a man does; doesn't see issues or life as a man does; and doesn't resolve problems as a man does. She will tend to see "the female side" of things; she will tend to emote whereas you tend to think logically. It doesn't mean she can never think or you can never feel; it just means you tend toward opposite approaches.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess this brings me to the question of what you define as "friend" VS "acquaintance"?

Like you imply, I don't think it's as clear-cut that men are logical robots and women are fluffy emotional beings. I think we all, as humans, fall somewhere in the middle, women just have a genetic predisposition towards the latter and men the former -- and frankly I'm sure some men, on some days, feel more emotional than some females, on other days. What I'm saying is that it's not as rigid as the paradigm you suggest.

On top of that, like you said, female friends could be beneficial for social proof and wingwomaning. Maybe the girl has a boyfriend and it's against your interests to go for her. Maybe YOU don't find her physically attractive enough to be worth your sex, but intellectually stimulating enough to be worth your time (i.e. same hobbies, enhances your life in some way or form).

[–]Invalidity0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only way a man and a woman can maintain a functional friendship is by having the man be gay. In every other type of interaction, the guy is either orbiting the girl, or the girl is biding her time to make a move on the guy until she cracks and does something ridiculous.

In the case of the orbiter, she knows that he is attracted to her, and is using that to her advantage to win favors, gifts and attention. In the case of the crazy stalker girl, he probably knows that she's attracted, and is using her to get her to do things for him.

Basically, a friendship of opposite sexes is where one individual can greatly benefit from what the other has to offer. Summarily, one is the giver, and the other the taker.

[–] points points points 56 years ago | Copy Link

I believe they can, on a strictly platonic level though. Case in point: We have a female in our car scene here... loves her WRX, drives it, mods it, comes to meets, drinks beer with us. Just hangs too. But yeah, zero chance of anyone hooking up or going relationship-style.

She actually had a boyfriend prior to this, but that fell apart when she purchased her WRX about six months ago. She then started 'hangin' with us guys. I have an inclining her showing up to meets and hanging with her boyfriend's male friends really screwed with their male/female exclusive relationship.

But with all that said, she's really good friends with all of us. Point here is, you can't have both dynamics going on at the same time. Period.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

you can't have both dynamics going on at the same time

I suppose you mean you can't be in the friend-box while also conveying sexual interest simultaneously?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you can't have both dynamics going on at the same time

I suppose you mean you can't be in the friend-box while also conveying sexual interest simultaneously?

[–]MeatCurtainRod0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

No, men and women cannot be friends. This is not open to discussion. Doing so will always lead to the bluepill male as described in the sidebar. Take note of who says yes and who says no. Clear alphas and clear betas. Oh ya, and watch part two. Very enlightening.

They can be acquaintances. Nothing more. You know, a friend of a friend. Another person in the group. This topic gets asked over and over and the answer is the same.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the link.

I watched the video but I don't see a concrete answer WHY men and women can't just be friends. Women (obviously) think so, but why would men not desire a male/female friendship?

I could see multiple benefits why a male would desire a friendship (instead of a relationship or sex) from a female. The female may hook him up with other girls. The female may not be attractive enough for the male to desire anything more than a friend. The female may help enhance his career (build connections through social networking). The female may share similar interests as the male.

It confuses me why not? Usually it's the guy that wants "something more" and gets friend zoned... but what if the guy simply wasn't THAT interested in the first place, or has a stable LTR already.

[–]MeatCurtainRod0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why? Simple: because this type of friendship is a 1-way street with a resulting loser, and friendship isn't about winning or losing. TRP talks about this all the time. For example, if a dude friend of yours is always smooching off you and batting his eye at you and asking for favors and constantly using you for your car, and never actually inviting you or returning any favors or paying for his own shit, you'd cut him out of your life without question. But for some odd reason a lot of men seem to put women on a pedestal and let them get away with it.

Guys really need to have more integrity and stick up for themselves rather than letting girls walk all over them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I agree for the most part I think the distinction needs to be made that men and women who has some form of attraction can not be friends.

You can be friends with an undesirable woman pretty easily as you have no reason to ever try to do anything with her.

The ultimate question however is why would you?

Undesirable women only hurt your SMV.

Now in a workplace is may have it's advantages but ultimately you don't want friends in work you want co workers or subordinates which are acquaintances to prevent favoritism.

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