TRP view of Psychiatrists/Therapy?

[deleted] · 2014-03-12T10:58:39+00:00

I don't know the thread you are referring to, but allow me to present my position. Modern day cognitive therapies are molded for female personas and behaviors. Males that use those methods not only do not benefit as much but they internalise the procedures and change their behavior to a more passive, internalised reactionary understanding of their psyche and environment, basically betadising them.

I have heard good things about CBT but I have no first(or even second) hand accounts, but the technics of reframing and gathering a skill set seems to be more gender neutral. Studies specifically toward the male psyche are abysmall, and due to weakness shaming and feminist prerogatives things won't change any time soon.

Therapy in general is presented as a cure but weakens people, breaks shells and makes them dependent on payed emotional support. I find it crucial to understand that the ability to "move on" of men should not be taken as a abnormality, and beaten out of men, forcing them to process emotions like women, but encouraged developed and harnesed as a energy source for fueling egos and striving for better and greater things.

A good allegory is thinking about a man having a hard time(nonconsequential issue), and being surrounded by a female type of support system, it is basically a work in progress, he juggles with the same emotions and angst and slowly processes them trough. Now the same man has a male support system, he gets refocused on external stimuli gets into alternate frames, is pushed to react and refocus on other issues. The movement is a process that diminishes the impact of the initial issue and reframes his mind in a "life beyond X" way. Also the pushing makes him work on ego protection skills, responding to male banter and not letting it affect him makes you stronger when facing your own doubt later on.

I know coming from a psych field you'll think my ideas are misogynist bs, and your field is objective and impartial but think about how few men there are and how much bias there are in studies concerning men, I dare you to search for a study that focuses on men, but doesn't even mention their interaction with women(aka framing their existence as reactionary to their mating drive). I guarantee you the opposite will be much easier to find.

RPTAW · 2014-03-12T04:41:45+00:00

I don't know too much about it, but I haven't seen TRP hate on therapy. Marriage/relationship counseling yes, for obvious reasons, but not too much for therapy/psychiatry. In any case, TRP encourages self development (working out, reading, stoicism and meditation). This can often solve your problems for you.

[deleted] · 2014-03-12T13:23:01+00:00

There's nothing wrong with psychological analysis, but there's plenty wrong with most psychologists and psychiatrists. Most of them seem to have a shallow understanding of the history of psychology, it's philosophical foundations (or lack thereof in some respects), and the relationships between physiological and psychological responses. They are often not equipped to evaluate the quality of original research as well. This makes them less than effective in some cases and downright dangerous in others.

I knew a girl displaying symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. She was seeing a psychiatrist at the time. The psychiatrist prescribed an anxiety medication thinking that was the cause. It didn't help and the side effects of the medication just made her more upset. A friend helped her do some digging. Medical analysis revealed blood sugar and hormonal issues. She corrected those and her "IBS" and anxiety went away. The psychiatrist confused cause and effect because she couldn't help but impose her belief that all psychological issues start in the mind.

You'll find that this sort of thing is not uncommon if you dig into the medical literature.

So, if you're going to be a psychologist, I'd suggest developing a strong understanding of biology/physiology and a keen scientific sense. Do some heavy reading on the philosophical question of mind/body duality.

EDIT: Marriage counseling is mostly a waste. People can't be talked into being attracted to one another, and that's when most people end up in marriage counseling - at the point where they are trying recover a "spark" in a last ditch effort to save the marriage.

Meglomaniac · 2014-03-12T13:04:00+00:00

Therapists are professionals in the area of psychology and other fields.

I would think nothing more about going to them to try to fix something that is wrong in my head, then I would going to a plumber to fix my pipes.

Title	TRP view of Psychiatrists/Therapy?
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Date	March 12, 2014 4:05 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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