"...intimacy with a woman involves a great deal of trouble." - Ivan Goncharov

Global_MGTOW · 2020-09-08T09:15:52+00:00

For very little reward, GYOW.

Ody_ssey · 2020-09-08T10:45:51+00:00

High risk, high cost and low reward.

pangolin001 · 2020-09-08T15:15:43+00:00

Even beyond the troubles with the particular woman, ever notice how everyone thinks they have skin in the game?

There's always a tug of war between you and everyone else. There's guys that wanna fuck her, her mother usually hates your guts, her friends all feel they have a right to test if you're good enough, neighbours all wonder if you're treating her nicely... basically everyone treats you like you're a bad guy and then expects you to prove that you're not.

You can sort of justify this when you're both young (like in highschool). Of course parents want what's best for their daughters. But she can be well into adulthood and nothing changes. The latest example is Brad Pitt (56) dating a 27 year old. She's fucking 27! She's all grown up - a long time ago. She's got free will, full agency, should be assumed to have enough wisdom and experience to make decent decisions but yet..... women come flying in calling him a creep and all sorts of shit. Fucking crazy.

Everyone wants to 'protect' the girls. It seems like everyone wants the girl. Even their mothers seem to be competing for her. It's all so fucking weird. The word is incestious - Improperly intimate or interconnected.

ThatCard · 2020-09-08T09:42:05+00:00

I've had one artistic ideal in mind, that of creation of the character of an honest, kind and likeable man, a total idealist, who'd been struggling all his life searching for truth, encountering nothing but lies at every corner, finally lost all interest and fell into apathy, through realizing how inadequate he was and how weak was human nature as such. This was the idea that I had when I was first thinking of Raisky. Should I've had it in me to put this to realization, this figure might have grown into a serious one, but that was a mammoth task, and I was in no position to tackle it. Besides, this wave of negativism has swept through our society and our literature, starting with Belinsky and Gogol. I succumbed to it and instead of embarking upon a serious study of this particular human kind started to sketch out fleeting portraits, picking at ugly and funny features only. Such a task would have proven difficult for any talent. Shakespeare created his Hamlet, Miguel de Cervantes his Don Quixote and these two giants have swallowed almost all that there's been tragic and comic in human nature. So what's been left for us, pygmies, was a set of small scale ideas and even those for us now are too hard to tackle. That is why we're reduced to making hints, nothing more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Goncharov

Title	"...intimacy with a woman involves a great deal of trouble." - Ivan Goncharov
Author	Jax_Gatsby
Upvotes	50
Comments	5
Date	September 8, 2020 9:10 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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