Are women unable to discern who's Alpha for themselves without tedious and drawn out conversations?

alreadyredschool · 2014-09-25T00:21:37+00:00

She needs to shit test you. When she can't break you, then she knows that nobody/nothing can. Only then she can be sure to be save when you are around.

Are women unable to discern who's Alpha for themselves without tedious and drawn out conversations?

Shit tests come fast and are solved fast.

Showing authority is the heart of handling shit tests. Nearly everything in game is based around authority/respect/admiration.

http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/14/amused-mastery/

An attitude of Amused Mastery begins from a default position of social dominance (higher standing). Most of the time agreeing and amplifying serves 2 purposes: treating her like a fun subordinate to toy with and to make her realize how stupid her question was. She will come to this conclusion when you amplify ad absurd um.

When I read the title I thought this was about pre-selection.

Stayinghereforreal · 2014-09-25T00:55:44+00:00

Women want to date men who other women want to date.

They are constantly seeking approval of their choices from other gals, to verify that they are, in fact, gathering the right DNA material.

oldredder · 2014-09-25T02:10:44+00:00

I suppose you'd want to know if there's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

A bit-shit-crazy bitch pretending to be a nice one you can trust.

If you thought you could sniff her out, or if you just do things by nature that would expose one like that (e.g. the Lucifer's Daughter post up a couple of days ago), wouldn't you be glad to benefit from it?

So look at it from the woman's perspective: she wants to know which is truly beta or truly alpha & it's not just by what you can see. The personality, life experience showing acceptance you can be dominant, or a fake, will show given enough chances to do so. It's a huge pain in the ass for the man, it's also a pain for her if she's not doing it by nature/accident (but she probably is) but the result will mean properly categorizing.

Then a woman can determine which man is alpha, beta, gay, has a life experience of self-awareness of strength or weakness, some kind of psycho, whatever. Once the man's given away his true nature she'll judge on that. Just as we men will judge on what they do because what they say is a crock of shit, they'll judge on the emotions we expose once they've dug them out, rather than what we try to control as alpha frame.

What you can't control, what's still in your nature, she badly wants to know, just as we men badly want to know what the hell that woman is really up to, what really motivates her. For our own good.

"Basically as long as she's not batshit crazy I don't need to hear a word out of her mouth to judge her"

I've got solid life experience facing down batshit crazy. You NEED to let her have a chance to explain who she is in ways she isn't aware of. Details. Recombinations of patterns. That's what trips the bitch up if she's faking normality and is really a batshit nutter (wolf in sheep's clothing). Subtle details revealed in what she's done, or accepts as morally right, or what flat out doesn't emotionally bother her but really you / I think that's fucked in the head.

So we kind of have to "shit test" them too but it's entirely different: we men need to know if this woman has any lasting value & we also need to know if she's so fucked it's best to treat her like pretty plutonium & go the other way. Faster you know the better.

GruntStyle0311 · 2014-09-25T04:11:41+00:00

"Why do women care how you respond to some irrelevant snippet of a question when they could observe you for what you really are? Just because you act Alpha around women doesn't actually make it true for your everyday life. The attraction just seems so petty it's unverified information a facade for all she knows."

The simplest answer would be, because they don't think rationally, logically, or strategically. Well, for the latter...they do sometimes think strategically, but only for revenge, shit tests, and any other negative scheme. But ration and logic are nonexistent in 95% of female thought processes.

anonlymouse · 2014-09-25T05:42:02+00:00

Quite the opposite, they're able to determine it very quickly, sometimes within seconds. They've had hundreds of thousands of years to evolve that talent.

sir_wankalot_here · 2014-09-25T01:28:00+00:00

Women like to talk about stuff more. Anyone who has kids will tell your this.

At age three, a male child will be pissing all over things, ripping pages out of books, trying to smash his toys. Speach skill wise, you are lucky if he can put together 3 word sentences.

At age three, a female child usually doesn't like to piss herself. She can calmly sit down and look at a book without wanting to rip out all the pages. She doesn't have the inclination to smash all her toys. Speach wise you can actually have conversations with her.

tallwheel · 2014-09-25T07:21:04+00:00

I'd say most of a woman's judgement of whether a guy is alpha or not is determined in the first glance at him. The remaining screening is through drawn out conversations and shit testing to determine whether or not her initial judgement was accurate or not.

wheyapartment · 2014-09-25T07:32:44+00:00

No, they see it within 5 seconds of speaking to you: they're programmed to do so

RedPillSafe · 2014-09-25T13:30:30+00:00

Women are emotional.

If you approach a woman and falsely "assume" she has a source of objective wisdom within her she will exploit that emotional context to her advantage.

On the other hand if you know of the hamster you can enter her loop and steer it where you want it to go.

The Alpha steers, the Beta glorifies.

FortunateBum · 2014-09-25T23:09:02+00:00

Because it's her subconscious mind that's evaluating you, not her conscious/rational mind.

Communicating with the subconscious involves repetition and never breaking frame.

Title	Are women unable to discern who's Alpha for themselves without tedious and drawn out conversations?
Author	silversord
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Date	September 25, 2014 12:13 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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