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The Red Pill journey of Trent Reznor on The Downward Spiral (long read)

da-way

March 21, 2014
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Title The Red Pill journey of Trent Reznor on The Downward Spiral (long read)
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da-way

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Date March 21, 2014 12:37 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]Clauderoughly2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That album was mainly about battling his addiction to heroin.

Hence all the self loathing imagery.

Hurt is all about the numbing effects of heroin and how it takes away your ability to feel any sort of emotional pleasure

[–]da-way[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That does not however preclude the view that I am presenting. To kick H and to take the red pill are both acts of liberation.

[–]da-way[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Submition statement:

There are allot of similarities of Reznor's journey in this album to those of a red pill man.

  • God - society/power
  • Piggy - oneitis/others who have control over you
  • Ruiner - the destructive tendencies of man (self-destructive), most often caused by those who are slaves to their disires/feelings

He begins his journey as a standard blue pill man, unable to love or be loved without hurting or being hurt. He becomes fed up with that and becomes detached in order to escape the pain. He escapes detachment only to become abusive towards the external world witch has hurt him so. When that doesn't work he starts to realize that he himself is the source of his pain.

This is where the journey diverges from the per pill man. In the end where he doesn't commit suicide (metaphorical one) to be free. This conclusion is supported by the final lyrics:

"i wear my crown of shit// on my liar's chair// full of broken thoughts// i cannot repair// beneath the stain of time// the feeling disappears// you are someone else// i am still right here"//

"if i could start again// a million miles away// i would keep myself// i would find a way"

He has not conquered/transformed himself (committed suicide (the boy must die so the man can live) ) and is unable to witch is the source of his pain and his chains. His cowardice has doomed him to a life of suffering.

tl;dr: A man must conquer society to become powerful, but he must also conquer himself in order to become free.

[–]dcbiker-2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Romans became Christians because wives in Rome tired of men playing around and brought their husbands to church.

Ironically, Western girls today have destroyed traditional families by rejecting religion and embracing feminism, socialism, and careers.

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