TLDR: how do you talk to guys who are 99-100% all blue pill (in my experience, in my area) and have little to no value to provide, or just people in general who are blue pill?

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How do you talk to guys? Weird question, but I've got a gf and talk to a few girls at work (trying to close with them) and then I go to bars on occasion. But I find I have nothing to talk about with guys because they are so fucking boring... they do not have interest in approaching girls or doing anything besides talking about stupid bullshit. I've tried making guy friends with a few guys I've met at bars who seem to have girls on them all the time but they either seem to get intimidated or think I'm weird because I don't follow the status quo.

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I can talk to girls no problem, at work I even get supervisors coming over to break us up because 2-3 girls will stop and join in the conversation (I make it sexual, so there's polarity, it's not a gay conversation). But I can't just be myself with dudes because they seem to get intimidated by the fact I'm so open and DGAF (not bragging - I mean I don't try and pretend to be masculine or w/e the fuck most guys do who can't talk openly to strangers). Went to a bar with my girlfriend and a bunch of her girlfriends (one of whom brought a dude). The dude was pretty cool (alpha-ish) but was super quiet all night apparently "trying not to show any emotion" while he drinks. Anyone who knows shit about seduction (Franco anyone?) knows that making girls emotional while maintaining frame and being masculine opens the door to sex. I guess my point is I have no interest in talking to dudes because I see 100% of them as beta (arrogant I know...). I see them as having nothing to offer me, and since IDGAF about women in general, I'm a selfish mother fucker and you can come off that way to women but dudes' protective instincts kick in and they always end up white knighting me when I get wilder around women.

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Maybe I'm just being a conceited douchebag but who the fuck cares right? I'm here and you all are here for women not men... but I'm trying to make friends (who are obviously fucking blue pill) just for social status I guess... as I can't see them having any value otherwise. Couple of the most alpha guys at work I met (I'm judging off of their DGAF demeanor and doing w/e the fuck the want at work, talking louder than anyone else, always cracking jokes) had a few conversations with me and they turn it to fucking Marvel vs. Capcom shit, and I know as soon as I turn the conversation to women or anything interesting they'll clam up because I'm "misogynist" (all blue pills hate us red pills when they see our true colors IMO). Talked to one alphaish dude about picking up chicks and he laughed at me, "I love how you say 'pick them up'" and looked at me expecting me to laugh and I didn't. Obviously no friendship there.

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I mean maybe it's not healthy to not really care about shit other than work and women but I really DGAF, I just want guys who add to my life and my vision which is banging more hot chicks and living the life I want. Blue pill guys (or anyone blue pill really) just detract from that and get on my nerves as I see them as getting in the way of what I want.

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I have some basic methods for living my life which are centered around selfishly living my life the way I want and chasing women (not chasing exactly but you get my point).

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Please don't give already stated bullshit responses on these other posts like "just talk about guy stuff, the weather, etc" I don't want to win other guys' approval with small talk, is that all there is? I want to be able to talk to them like I talk to women (basically just anything that's on my mind, like another reader said about talking to ANYBODY) without them becoming so awkward when I'm just casual as fuck (I don't know the word, unstifled?). Basically with girls I've trained my DGAF (with great help from TRP and RSD Tyler) to be able to just say whatever the fuck comes to mind and what attracts them is I'm completely open/uninhibited/RELAXED, but not coming off like I'm flexing or overcompensating. This is what I see most guys do is overcompensate around women (and men) and when you're relaxed and don't give a fuck about social niceties, it makes them envy you and not like you (psychological?). Obviously you can't just talk to dudes like that, they have to portray this bullshit masculine ego stuff that we do... but I have no interest in that.

Maybe it's just in my head but it could be cause I just don't find the energy to continue the conversation when i know there's literally nothing to gain. Even unattractive women I don't really feel the need to fill in the blanks in the conversation nervously like they probably expect me to, I just walk away looking for more attractive women who challenge my frame holding abilities.

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But even though I could just continue living my life and continue NGAF, I feel like I should atleast BE ABLE to talk to guys... but I just find it hard to give them the respect (that they want) when I see nothing worthy of respecting (blue pill BITCHES lol). And that obviously doesn't bode well.