I made a post recently about how to haggle (negotiate) with women in order to maximize your advantage. In the process of watching that thread unfold I realized that even though I have become MGTOW in life (since 2001) I had not truly understood the change in how the negotiation takes place.

Women were once exclusively the "prize". Men were the buyers and women were the sellers and once the product was purchased the woman stripped away any identity she might have had previously and became "Mrs John Smith". She became your property. As the permanently lower status member in the relationship her nature that gets "tingles" based on this submission was naturally satisfied structurally. Nature matched nurture, the laws matched the "tingles". All was good in the Patriarchy.

But that situation doesn't exist anymore.

The structural dynamics that automatically created "tingles" (Patriarchy itself) is now gone. The beta male still sees women as the "prize" but he has no real structural support to create "tingles" so he degenerates into being a Beta Bucks who does all the work, but gets none of the sex and dominance for it.

One must become the "prize".

The only way you can generate the "tingles" is to do all the things Red Pill teaches about maintaining frame.

Now think in a role reversed way.

  • We are MOST attracted to women who are physically attractive, but not sluts.

  • Women will be MOST attracted to men who are MGTOW and not willing to give commitment easily.

So our goal is to be the "prize" by being authentic.

  • MGTOW for men is like Virginity for women... attractive.

(and I'm not talking about Monk Mode MGTOW, but just being inwardly directed generally)