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Red Pillers: What percentage of rape allegations are false?

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May 25, 2015
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Title Red Pillers: What percentage of rape allegations are false?
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Upvotes 1
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Date May 25, 2015 3:43 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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[–]obstinatebeagle1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This comment seems to have a good answer

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Depends on what you're talking about - made-up rape reports that fail at the police level or actual false allegations at the courts?

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]obstinatebeagle0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm talking when the victim admits to lying

So if someone lies but does not admit to it, you're counting that as an actual rape? That makes a lot of sense... not.

If someone does not admit to lying but the matter does not go to trial, or even if it does on really shaky evidence and gets thrown out, you will never 100% know if that was a false allegation or not.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We will never know. That's the first thing everybody needs to understand.

[–]Lonny_zone0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

^ All that this up there.

To be one of those men exonerated decades later due to DNA evidence...all my jimmies are rustlin'....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's been a massive jump in recent times. Every other sexually active girl walking around on a university campus has a rape story these days.

Having been raped is like the latest "i'm a vegan" or "i'm a crossfitter."

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck crossfit

[–]Kill_Your_Ego6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

My second LTR was a single mother and I really liked her. She had a story of rape that created her daughter. I believed her. I should not have. It messed up our relationship bad and destroyed it.

Last year dog trainer girl, who I really really liked, also told me as we discussed red pill truths, that she had destroyed a man with rape lies.

My oldest female friend, going on fourteen years, who I've watched get married and divorced, and now so clueless as to why her 44 year old entrepreneur boyfriend will not marry her, also has used rape allegations to damage a man. She pulled back and didn't go full out mattress carrying.

I also know one woman, who used to be my roommate, who was clearly raped. Who is quiet and very bizarre. She engages in weird rituals to feel safe and she's completely neurotic.

The false rape liars, who seem to number quite high to me, are hurting a true understanding of women who actually are raped. And who didn't just regret trying to tie down some guy.

I now operate from the default that any woman who says she was raped is a liar. Unless I observe what I now know are the true symptoms of that kind of invasion then I'm assuming you're full of shit and a bad person. A liar.

You sexist victim promoting man hating assholes have already fucked things up for women who are actually raped.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I am so glad i don't know the women you know.

[–]Kill_Your_Ego1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

They are pretty fun. I can accept that I many be running into confirmation bias here. I just don't know what to do about it.

And since they are real I'm also know that I need to protect myself from the female hamster. It's pretty scary what the hamster can create. With laws to back up a woman's feels.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

where did you meet these women..... i need to know so i can never go there

[–]Kill_Your_Ego4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

Which one? The first one was at target. The second one was online. The third one was at Petco.

People keep telling me that I'm just meeting the "wrong" women. You want to tell them that? You want to tell all these women that they are just the "wrong" women? You want to tell them what?

Sorry you are just collateral damage. We are all just collateral damage in the great march. The long march. But one day we'll get there, right? We'll reach ethical perfection. If only... No, now I will fight back. I will believe that something different can happen.

Women are fucking miserable. It's so rare I meet a woman who is happy.

I'm so sick of the lies.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

My advice stop meeting women at chain stores, seems to be bad luck for you, or you have a crazy magnet or you have poor filters. trust me i know crazy, crazy mother, i have been shot at by my friends exes. work on your standard and values. these will be your filters.

questions to ask your self are what is something i would cut a person out of my life for no hesitation not second chances.

Would standards do i hold people in my life to?

would i put up with this from a man? (this one is dating specific)

the shit you get is the shit you tolerate.

Women are fucking miserable. It's so rare I meet a woman who is happy.

If you lived near me i might introduce to a few i know, very pleasant people.

[–]Kill_Your_Ego0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And stop meeting them at gas stations, coffee shops, concerts, at university, through church and though mutual friends.

Cause only those "odd" and clear "outliers" of severely crazy women go shopping, own a dog, buy gas, drink coffee, listen to live music, attend church, or have friends.

Sorry I just don't buy this anymore. I've met far more women then most people are going to and I do, now, kick them to the curb pretty fast. Not wanting to be an incel means I have to fuck them for a little bit while I try to meet a new woman who isn't nuts.

Which if course comes with a whole host of problems.

Face it the problem is our entire defective culture and oppressive nightmare government.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I still maintain you just have bad luck but maybe move? maybe it just your local area

[–]Kill_Your_Ego0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

There are things I'm doing. I'm keeping track of them to see if they work. There are some guys who really just want to unicorn hunt. They just move from the sub to blogs mostly.

The number of women I have to write off quickly is very high though. The sheer number of disappointing shitty women that some guy is going to marry anyway is depressing. It would be nice if women could get their shit together. I mean we gave them pretty much complete control over the past fifty years. Yet they can't stop whining about what failures they are.

I mean that's fine for a month long "relationship" but these women need to grow up. The real oppression is that we put them in a hug box and we won't let them out even if they want to leave.

[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean that's fine for a month long "relationship" but these women need to grow up. The real oppression is that we put them in a hug box and we won't let them out even if they want to leave.

do you live in city? or some thing? i think your issues is geographic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy explains it perfectly of how the 1/4 women getting raped is bullshit. And shows the a more realistic statistic of real rape rates through some simple mathematics.

[–]throwinoutex-Red Pill, now Purple Man[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Isn't the accepted figure somewhere between 2% and 10%? I lean more closely to 10% than 2%.

[–][deleted] 4 points4 points4 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]wazzup987Blue pill, you can beat me black & blue for it later[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ANTI-RP MRA here . stats range from 8-90%. if you were to put all the different studies on scatter point graph most would cluster between 40-60%. the two i cite are 8% (FBI findings for absolutely 100% false claims) and 25% (dna exclusion rate)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if you were to put all the different studies on scatter point graph most would cluster between 40-60%.

Thats what I came to conclude in the end, from studies and the women who have claimed to have been raped IRL. A lot of the stats are deliberately cooked ala 1 in 3 women being raped.

datagoneodd.com < the aforementioned stat cooking.

As for motivation, it was a activist cred thing as far as I could tell. I think one used it on her grad school application. God help you if you talk about this IRL - you'll get betas yelling at you in public (yes really). On the other hand, if you get accused by aforementioned cunt, you get zero help from the school (no time off etc), while they get showered in support.

[–]throwinoutex-Red Pill, now Purple Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think all women being capable of manipulation is solely a TRP thing. Maybe the opinion that women are apt to resort to manipulation is though. Do you want to share what you thing the percentage is?

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Accepted by whom.

[–]throwinoutex-Red Pill, now Purple Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The general population.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And who hands out these numbers so the general population starts to take them at face value?

[–]throwinoutex-Red Pill, now Purple Man[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Various sources, ranging from the FBI to academics.

[–]exit_sandmanstill not the MGTOW sandman FFS0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Academics too often have an agenda, but I'd be curious whether the FBI hands out proven false accusation rates or just estimations.

[–]TerpBerpPerpDerpMagenta Monk Mode0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It isn't possible to know for certain, unless the person making the claim is either disproven via recorded consent, an alibi, or a recanting. This means that there are probably more actual false accusations than we know for sure, but it could be anywhere between the amount of certain lies, and the amount of certain truths.

[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think all rapes should be taken as true to start. The problem i have is the stigma attached to the ACCUSATION instead of the CONVICTION. Society breaks down when we do not trust the people.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a study in the airforce with polygraph tests said between 30 and 60 percent.

another study in a small town said half.

there's even material for the police to help identify false rape claims. really interesting read if you can find it. according to the paper most false rape claims don't name an accuser. women just make them up to get out of trouble.

but all this stuff is going to get lost in a white noise of "stop victim blaming." and "stop trying to ruin mens lives."

[–]TheRealMewtNatty0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Enough to where men fear simply being accused of it.

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