Confusion between MRP and ASKTRP's pt of view on a LTR who is always "too tired for sex"

RStonePT · 2019-11-29T15:04:13+00:00

There's no difference, what you're seeing is a subset of guys who seem to want to fix their women, for whatever reasons.

Generally, married or single, guys tend to wonder if all the effort is worth it when you can just find someone without the baggage. I mod down there, and haven't taken them down because, they are strategy. The fact very few people find them to be useful at all doesn't matter so much.

A proper take on choreplay from a MRP perspective is this. If you have a deadbeat wife, and through a combination of 'learned helplessness' and 'cost sunk fallacy' and 'I love my kids' haven't just nuked it and started over, it's a good first step.

Instead of leaning on gender roles, and you whining on the 'order of men' facebook group about how your wife 'should' be fufilling her covert contract with you, you start to live as if she wasn't there. you handle your house, you handle your kids, and you handle your income. At some point, if you're literally dragging dead weight along, and she doesn't decide to start acting right (Usually, once a girl sees her man has his shit together and is looking into his sexual 'options') that guy will have a moment where he looks at her, removes the wife goggles (aspirational love model) and wonders why the fuck she's even there.

Then he gets to work.

The benefit is two fold. A lot of shitty relationships are because the guy is shit, full stop. Fix that, and allofasudden the girl starts acting right. The ones that aren't shit don't realize how easily they could get what they want and are sabotaging their lives by investing in a sub par woman. They need to see that for themselves, because no fancy keyboard words will convince them of what they are ego invested in not seeing.

In both situations, the guy is getting the sexual success he wants, only difference is the woman.

But I know damn well that if I advised this on this sub, I would get roasted (and probably even banned) and told to GTFOH with "that marriage counseling bs" cuz LMR is basic knowlegde and I've seen waaay too many blue pill examples of people who tried that and said that it's BS.

if you're expecting a 21 year old college kid to understand what the fuck is going on I don't know what to tell you. The fact that a bunch of keyboard jockeys shitting on you would be enough to change your behaviour is all I need to know about your frame.

Yall would tell me to leave and do other stuff like lifting or other things you want/have to do, to upgrade my SMV, chase goals, maintain frame, basic stuff.

Back to the demographics. older guys know you 'cant tell him what to do' you have to have him get to that conclusion himself. Kids here just think that they can project their disgust and allofasudden men will start acting right. Makes sense, since most dudes who find their way here have been doing that unsuccessfully with women their whole lives to begin with.

If you want to see what I'm talking about, pay attention to the older single guys in here, like uncle vas, cainprince etc. Their answers are from guys who get it, and have no patience for guys who need to be handheld through their own self actualization

VasiliyZaitzev · 2019-11-29T14:16:34+00:00

A. “ChorePlay” is, in general, not a long term strategy. Do something once, it a favor. Do it three times and it’s an obligation.

B. I date/mate/plate young women. They are never “too tired” to fuck. They don’t come to my house to be treated like my equal.

C. If you are in an LTR and your girl starts being “too tired” the. You need to implement DREAD Protocols.

D. As always, if you maintain sexual relationships with multiple girls, then you don’t have these problems.

frognads · 2019-11-29T13:30:05+00:00

Married red pill is for guys who are already in a marriage, thus the name. Now the advice they give can be different, as it caters to guys who might not be in a position to simply 'hard next' their wife like one of us can do with a plate or even an ltr.

Now despite that, I doubt many people on MRP would recommend 'choreplay' as a viable strategy to improve the marriage. I couldn't see anything pertaining to that in the link you sent, but even if a comment said that, it doesn't reflect the stance of the community anyway.

Not really sure what your point is, or if it makes any sense.

2019-12-01T00:49:03+00:00

After another 2-3 weeks of no contact, shit in a basic brown bag (the kind you may have eaten lunch out of as a kid), put the bag on her porch, light the top of the bag on fire, ring the doorbell (or knock) and run to a pre-set hiding/viewing location. If all went as planned the victim will see the flaming bag and be all like "ahh fire!" followed by a quick stomping of the bag.

Musicgoon · 2019-11-29T13:42:10+00:00

I don't know if we are reading the same thing or you just completely missed the point in the MRP post. No where in TRP community has anyone ever advocated chore play... That is the most faggot shit I've ever fucking heard!

TRP advocates for you taking control of your life and piloting yourself towards being the best version of you. MRP advocates for piloting your ship, your marriage and your family in the direction you want it to go, while not letting yourself go and constantly improving.

Its the same thing just one is for single guys and one is for married guys. Tell me where it says to do chores to improve your sex life... I've never read that.

Reread your articles and the sidebar.

pyth0ns · 2019-11-29T16:52:25+00:00

Sometimes on TMRP - the posts are cleverly crafted in a way that favors the women.
Not sure if this is due to 'infiltration' or some Mod losing touch.
Keep that as an FYI

End of the day though, do you.
I personally love cleaning my house and making sure my kingdom is in pristine condition.
Where some (generally fat lazy fucks) think doing this instead of your girl is Beta, I simply tell them to bring their girl over and feel their pussy afterward once they see me cleaning only in my underwear with my jacked physique...

Same would go with your wife in terms of 'choreplay' (just my interpretation of that post/article)
Your wife would be hotter than an oven if you're doing chores in your underwear with a jacked physique...

Domebeers · 2019-11-29T17:31:05+00:00

Did someone suggest doing chores as a way to get your wife more attracted to you?

That's...that's not good advice.

TheStumblingWolf · 2019-11-29T18:02:05+00:00

If she's always too tired, she is not attracted to you. Attraction doesn't work differently because you're in a relationship.

SeasonedRP · 2019-11-29T23:41:44+00:00

MRP isn't RP. It's delusional tradcons pretending to be in control when they aren't. Women can do no wrong and everything is the man's fault is the stock answer to any queries. I wouldn't recommend taking advice from there.

The_Belony · 2019-11-29T12:56:24+00:00

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Title	Confusion between MRP and ASKTRP's pt of view on a LTR who is always "too tired for sex"
Author	The_Belony
Upvotes	4
Comments	16
Date	November 29, 2019 12:48 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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