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Thoughts on this video?

Larshermanb · 2019-06-30T05:48:39+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwZxJtCjyA  Anyone have any thoughts on this...

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June 30, 2019

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Title	Thoughts on this video?
Author	Larshermanb
Upvotes	1
Comments	9
Date	June 30, 2019 5:48 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/exredpill/comments/c79q36/thoughts_on_this_video/
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[–]SHAKIRAISHOT 1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

i saw it a while ago and believed every word he said because i was bitter.

eventually reality set in that NAWALT and i genuinely believe MWANLT.

anytime you consider taking ideas or info from a person, its important to consider their background story.

this specific person, richard cooper, got "divorce raped". red pill told him what he wanted to hear. he never had an "anger phase" because red pill told him exactly what he wanted to hear about: "female nature" and "awalt".

its just bullshit. like its just bullshit. i could go through it line by line but this stuff gets exhausting. why should i have to prove something that was never proven to begin with?

"women don't marry down" at least in terms of money this isnt true in the slightest...

more women have college degrees than men these days. because of this i think its a pretty safe assumption to say women and men make AT LEAST equal amounts of money. if not women making more on average. there is a "wage gap" but im not gonna get into that right now.

"women reserve the right to change their mind at any time" well no shit. anyone can change their mind about fucking anything. men can change their mind. this is just red pills "victim mindset"

"men are the disposable sex." i believe theres truth to this considering the military is primarily men and more men die in combat and stuff like that, but its completely irrelevant to your dating success. the fact more men die in wars than women doesnt make it more difficult for you to form a relationship with a human being. red pill does this a lot. blurt statements that have truth to them and act like theyre even relevant (theyre not).

"unicorns dont exist". another bullshit statement. this is just a coping mechanism used by red pillers. their wife left them therefore "unicorns dont exist". its a meaningless statement at best.

in my opinion hypergamy is probably the mildest of red pill beliefs and quite frankly ive always believed in it to a milder extent. but like i said its a gross generalization that doesnt apply to all women. its not like hugh hefner had a ton of girls for his personality. growing up as i kept working out and improving my face by increasing my testosterone, i got more and more attention from girls many literally approached me for my looks. like this isnt rocket science. but red pill turns basic shit into something its not like talking about "smv" and shit. like its never occured to them that maybe women literally just want a genuine guy they find attractive. and that it has literally nothing to do with your goddamn SMV/ hypergamy science.

lastly, yes improving your attractiveness will make you more attractive. no one is disagreeing with that here.

i have a lot i could add to this but this is getting too long.

[–]Larshermanb 1 points 7 years ago* [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]SHAKIRAISHOT 1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

" I really do not get the concept of abundance mentality. "

i never did either because its pure stupidity. theres no such thing as an abundance mindset. you either have options or you dont. its not a mentality thats just some retarded shit some of them say. and others of them will admit its not a mindset its a literal abundance. you cant "believe" that 100 other girls to fuck you if they dont.

" It also rubs me the wrong way if I should look at my girlfriend and go "she is nothing special.. there are millions more out there". "

thats exactly the fucking problem with red pill (its also wrong so dont even listen to them). women are people with individual personalities. red pill says love is the illusion one woman differs from another. this is pure nonsense i dont even need to explain it.

there are varying degrees of truth to red pill. if you chase superficail things, superficial women, act like a narcissist like they literally tell you to, youre definitely going to find a narcissistic slut who wants to fuck you.

the starting point of red pill is completely wrong. real loving relationships do exist. red pill counters this by making retarded generalizations about women saying theyre all unloyal, narcs, solipsistic, manipulative, and theyre all childlike sluts capable of ruining your life. again i dont even need to explain why this is bullshit. its literally insanity. pure fucking nonsense. SOME women are like that.

basically red pill tells you this: women are terrible, AWFUL, people and relationships arent worth it because you can get laid without them, improve yourself, learn PUA, and have sex.

do you see everything wrong with that picture? and then they come on here saying rp is about becoming a man lmao. its a giant cope. mgtow hates women. red pill hates them in a different way, by patronizing them. "we dont hate them we understand them" in reality they dont understand them in the slightest and put improvement up as a front to feel better about hating women.

quote from one of my older posts here

moving on, hypergamy. ive discussed this with many red pillers. obviously not all women are hypergamous. they respond to counter examples by, again, changing the definition of hypergamy into " dating 'up' is defined by the individual and isnt necessarily looks/money/status ". again, do you see how meaningless of a statement that is? yet they continue to use this terminology.

and then weve got hypergamy by the definition of wanting the best you can get - under that definition men are also hypergamous... red pillers counter that by saying men are actually polygamous, except they arent... countless men want a relationship with one girl - not sleeping around with as many drunk girls are bars and clubs. but they say all men are polygamous because the community itself is full of polygamous men, and if polygamy is actually your goal, and hypergamy is defined as wanting the best you can get, then there isnt any difference between the two. you see, the definitions are always changing because they know they are wrong

also, so do women date up? yeah in some aspects but red pill is ignoring a lot. men and women need each other. and im not saying some kind of shit like men need women to survive. they dont. but theyre meant to be together. in order words how can you possible say a guy is "dating down", like it just doesnt make any sense. if a guy is with a woman he values something in her - and she is the best girl to him for whatever reasons he chooses. if men didnt need women, there would be no such thing as the mgtow and incel communities.

another quote

these ideologies are bullshit and its not because looks dont matter or that you shouldnt "be on your purpose" or that you should chase women who arent into you lol. the same basic advice always holds true: improve yourself, get in the best shape of your life, keep busy (one reason for this is to prevent neediness), and be confident, dont pursue a woman who doesnt want you. your grandma couldve told you all of this except maybe the part about building muscle.

another quote

i could keep going and its far from just being about varying degrees of unhealthy negativity towards women. its also pua/game/alpha bullshit, objectifying everyone not just women, basically viewing dating as a transaction of superficial things, they overthink literally everything and try to calculate their smv as if women even fucking think about that, they also teach about being emotionally unavailable is alpha whereas having feelings is beta (rollo said this). its also very misleading because even if you get girls solely because you acted "alpha", you are robbing yourself from having an actual relationship and most of them dont even know what that means because they never had one before finding red pill.

[–]roguish_rogue1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

pure stupidity. theres no such thing as an abundance mindset. you either have options or you dont. its not a mentality thats just some retarded shit some of them say. and others of them will admit its not a mindset its a literal abundance. you cant "believe" that 100 other girls to fuck you if they dont.

Disagree, mindset is somewhat of a choice, peoples confidence is losely tied to reality but most people have more confidence or less confidence than they should have "objectively", basically everyone is delusional, its better to have a useful delusion than one that hinders you, obviously the range from within reality you can push your mindset differs depending on who you are, but most can modify it somewhat, just look at a depressed guy convincing himself that he is worthless, the opposite is just as possible.

Autosuggestion is a powerful tool, or for some people their worst enemy.

[–]SHAKIRAISHOT 1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

its better to have a useful delusion than one that hinders you

yeah its better to think your awesome than think your a sad worthless turd.

but believing you are more awesome than you really are is (in most cases) narcissism. red pill actually suggests mimicking dark triad (narcissism) as a short term sexual strategy. i dont give a fuck what kind of ideology you believe in, if they encourage dark triad for ANY reason, EVEN IF it actually helps you get laid, that ideology is not healthy.

red pill preaches the more arrogant and cocky the better. i dont have to explain why this is misleading.

not sure what you are arguing here.

if you dont have the abundance, but have convinced yourself you are the shit, and you call that "abundance mentality". then abundance mentality is literally just pure cockiness. they just called it "abundance mentality" but its really not anything to do with abundance, its literally just cockiness.

[–]roguish_rogue0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

red pill preaches the more arrogant and cocky the better. i dont have to explain why this is misleading.

All things in moderation imo, extreme cockiness also backfires unless a guy is really attractive and somewhat physically imposing which most guys are not, or if he is pretending and its not really who he is. In relationships most emotionally healthy girls will get fed up with that shit pretty fast.

not sure what you are arguing here.

That having a useful mindset is better than having a limiting mindset? You seem to want to have a moral argument, I am not interested in that, I know what works and what does not, its very basic stuff, with proper focus it takes about 4 weeks to adopt an positive habit, or to get rid of a negative one, for some it may take a bit longer but anyone can do it.

if they encourage dark triad for ANY reason, EVEN IF it actually helps you get laid, that ideology is not healthy.

There is a big difference between what TRP encourages and being a bit cocky and becoming comfortable with flirting for fun, if being a bit cocky gets a guy laid with girls who are looking for hookups there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, they are looking for cocky guys and he is giving them what they want. You are not going to dissuade a guy getting sucked into TRP by preaching at him that its unhealthy or immoral, you can only do that by giving him an alternative.

[–]SHAKIRAISHOT 1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]roguish_rogue0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you are against hookups then dont have them, but dont assume other people have the same needs and desires as you, and some of us really like blowjobs.

You assume that because I am capable of being flirty, cocky, sexually aggressive and utterly shameless(and have fun doing it) that I am incapable of not being that, you are also clueless if you think most girls dont respond well to that kind of thing under the right circumstances and with the right guy, or if you think that it cant be the start of a wonderful relationship, I am a pretty genuine guy and I have pretty good situational awareness at this point, I am not some kind of confused teenager who watched a pickup guide on Youtube, I have been doing this shit for almost 2 decades in relationships and out.

I have visited TRP subreddit twice in the past five years, just to confirm it was still a depressing cesspit of negativity and misogyny that I had no use for, whatever potential they may have had to be helpful to guys is long gone.

edit: I am off to bed.

[–]SHAKIRAISHOT0 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link