What does "Where Are All The Good Men" Mean, Part II. The Presumptions.

Traksimuss · 2018-03-29T15:42:30+00:00

I feel it is just 50 shades of entitlement from women.

Also they do not plan to offer what man wants "He has to accept me as I am" and "Should not judgemy past, I have changed".

Which is a lie of course, she never learned how to cook or how to respect man.

CannabisCumshot69 · 2018-03-29T17:52:13+00:00

For a long time young women heard "You'd better learn to do X, otherwise you won't make a good wife!" Enter feminism, and now many of those young women say that learning traditional housewife skills is oppressive, and they should strive for more than just that. For the purpose of this let's set aside all of the underlying pieces of that entire thought and say sure, young women should feel free to strive to be whatever they want.

The problem is that lots of them have it in their heads that the act of being a good wife is oppression and evil and so on. Note that they still want to find a man who's a good provider, a professional, a businessman, etc., but also a good husband. But they never say "...and I'll be a good wife to match", they go on about how educated they are and how much they love their jobs. Somehow they're convinced that any man who wants a good wife must also not respect her as anything other than a housewife; so now not only have they absolved themselves of any responsibility to be such, it's not even a consideration in their minds. But they're still entitled to something magnitudes above what they're offering, naturally...

AllahHatesFags · 2018-03-29T16:23:12+00:00

There's this entitlement mentality that society have given these women through a combination of thirsty males telling them how beautiful and awesome they are throughout their youth while modern feminism has been actively working to eliminate the traditional sources of shame (fat-shaming, slut-shaming) that may have otherwise kept these women from reaching their thirties with nothing to offer.

A woman who is constantly told how great she is by desperate men has no desire for self-improvement, even when it is actually needed in reality.

A woman who is told by feminism that she is still inherently valuable no matter how fat she is, how many guys she's fucked, or how many fatherless bastards she has won't avoid these behaviors that will actually greatly lessen her value to potential male partners.

The result is a generation of entitled cunts, the majority of whom are fat and many of whom have astronomically high n-counts and bastard children who, despite these things, think they are entitled to a quality man undergo the very real risks of getting married to take care of them just by virtue of them existing and having a vagina.

To all men I say this: don't settle for one of these entitled, used-up cunts! If she didn't give you the best decade of her life, don't take her worst decades. Avoid single mothers at all costs! Go your own way or get a vasectomy, use a fake name, pump and dump and film it like Dennis Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. If you give them what they don't deserve it will only get worse!

secant128 · 2018-03-29T20:15:32+00:00

And when the good man is unwilling to commit or cheats or ghosts, they blame the good man and he is the one doing the wrong. How dare he not commit to me I am so wonderful and nice!

But when the woman cheats, that's justified for her because it's the man that's not meeting her standards. There is a problem within the relationship it's not her fault that she cheats, what did the man do to lead to the woman cheating? That's their mentality.

Example: https://clips.twitch.tv/UninterestedIntelligentStingrayCoolStoryBob

This pretty much ties to what OP saids, that these women think they are entitled to a good man and they think men don't deserve her it's their grace to even be willing to settle with good men, hence they call it "settle". It's because they would much rather be with Christian Grey or chad but they can't compete with the girls that Christian Grey and chads are fucking anymore. And so they call it "going through the slut phase and are now ready to settle".

[deleted] · 2018-03-29T19:12:44+00:00

They want to have their cake and eat it too.

You’re absolutely correct to say that there is a sense of entitlement.

And it's everybody that feels entitled. You. Me. Them. Everybody.

But it's all about the reasons why we feel entitled.

I feel entitled because I work hard for who I am and what I've got.

Do I feel like I'm entitled to a woman because of these things? No.

But I do feel entitled to the TYPE of woman I want to be with.

Do I feel entitled to a woman because I do things for her? Fuck no.

But I do feel entitled to be punching in my own weight class. AKA having standards.

Now here is where alot of our "content" goes wrong. And dudes do this too.

They are punching WAYYYYYY above their weight class. And they feel entitled to do so. For no reason other than they deserve it. They want to have their cake and eat it too.

When I say this they want to live like the devil but sit with God after they die (hit the wall) and they think they can because of their last second repentance.

Unfortunately in the dating world people aren't god and are pretty unforgiving.

Original_Dankster · 2018-03-29T19:14:55+00:00

A response to "WAATGM?":

"What have you done to deserve a good man? More importantly, what are you doing to deserve a good man?"

BachelorInc · 2018-03-30T03:35:26+00:00

Female answer in a nut shell:

"Because vaginaaaaa! "

dreadfrog · 2018-03-29T21:45:05+00:00

To women, a Good Man for our purposes is: "sexually attractive, good looking, marriage minded, father-material, resources-rich, wants to marry me, and wants to have children with me.

no, nononononono, you forgot:

"and wants to have children with me, but only if I want to."

(after all, she has five from different fathers already)

BoskOfPortKar · 2018-03-30T08:31:02+00:00

I would give a shorter explanation :

DISNEY

Mox_Ruby · 2018-03-31T20:15:28+00:00

All my wife's single friends looking for husbands to have kids with in their mid 30s all have over 50k In consumer debt.

Who the fuck would start a life with them lol. It's like they all think men won't ask or care.

[deleted] · 2018-04-03T20:12:46+00:00

Women do not understand the difference between a specification, and a qualification. And how that plays out in a marketplace.

A specification is an attribute that acts in exclusion to a categorically similar attribute wherein the alternative is generally equally or more desirable than the particulars of the attribute you desire.

For instance. Ice cream. Flavor chocolate and vanilla. Are specifications. When you go to buy ice cream when you specify chocolate you exclude the option of vanilla, and in doing so you exclude your competitive ice cream consumers who want vanilla. The ice-cream market place caters to these specifications by offering them as options.

Anything that doesn't act in exclusivity and adds value is not a specification it's a qualification.

Anything that does act in exclusivity and is generally desirable by others seeking the same thing is a qualification.

When you add qualifications to something the market value increases. When you add specifications to something the market value stays constant.

Women go off building these big lists of stuff a man should have to be their match, under the presumption they are writing specifications. So when they say Tall, good looking, good career, family oriented, man they acknowledge that's specific and there aren't a lot of them out there. What they fail to recognize is that's what every woman wants and so while trimming the available men to about 1% none of the women also in the same dating pool are seeking an unemployed, ugly, short man seeking a pump and dump. The market value for this man is extremely high.

They have this sort of mental disconnect with the idea that in asking for this 1% man what they are actually asking for is a TOP 1% man. Not realizing that just as there are no women actively seeking unemployed, ugly, short men there are no men actively seeking shallow, lazy, obese, promiscuous, ugly, single moms with a shopping addiction and an attitude problem. They don't even consider they are asking for a TOP 1% man and maybe just maybe they should try and be at LEAST a top 10% woman to compete in the marketplace.

This is where "I Deserve This" comes from. Never for a second admitting that other women are wanting the exact same thing therefore competition between women exists. And never admitting that men have qualifications too, and not having any means the other women will win. In short, as you said, never admitting to themselves that they are really no catch at all, and that they are asking for the world. They maintain in the I'm a special snowflake that deserves to get another snowflake exactly shaped as I want it. As if all snowflakes have essentially the same value.

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