Men love women for who they are vs Women love men for what they can do for them

throwaway18236123 · 2019-12-22T11:44:18+00:00

I don't think women were ever capable of love, their nature doesn't allow it. Men are naturally programmed to want to care and protect women simply because they are a woman. Women are naturally programmed to be selective. They never care about a man, just what he can do for her and the child they'd raise.

Arthur_S_ · 2019-12-22T12:28:28+00:00

My sister had a miscarrriage, Then when her man was battling cancer she left him. Found another guy pretty fast and got pregnant a few months later. I'm really grateful for my mother and sister for force feeding me red pills.

RunsInJeans · 2019-12-22T15:25:23+00:00

I disagree on the first part, let me explain.

Our male brains are basically sexual selection machines looking for quality DNA to reproduce with. Haven't you ever had that feeling of being "in love" with a beautiful woman that you haven't even spoken to and know nothing about? That's your brain saying "make babies with this woman!" Nature wants us to pair bond with them so that we stick around to provide protection and resources, thus ensuring the survival of the offspring. Although it feels like you love her to her core it's just an illusion fabricated by nature/evolution. It is just as superficial as a woman who is attracted to wealthy high status males. Rich men can reliably provide resources therefore the female brain says "make babies with this man!" It's all bullshit. Don't be natures puppet.

-Governator · 2019-12-22T11:07:38+00:00

This is not a statement. Also, it operate under the assumption that women can pair bond (aka love), when most of them are simply unable to do that anymore.

EL10RUB · 2019-12-22T12:26:43+00:00

The second part is 100% correct.

The first part needs some qualification. In the context of the statement it is true however.. To say a man loves a woman for who she cant be really be true. A man can never 'know' a woman as they are chameleons that dont have a 'personality' as such (read hive mentality), hell a woman doesnt even know who she is herself !

A man loving a woman for who she is is really a form of projection. Men are wired to pedastalise women and are actually projecting this hard wiring onto the woman thereby 'loving her for who she is' as oppossed to what she brings. Once a man is truly red pilled I would say that he could never truly love a woman because a) he understands female nature (what sane person could 'love' that) and also he would know that the woman is playing a game that is not love as a man knows it / believes it to be.

AngerMAkesmeHAppyHA · 2019-12-22T14:19:50+00:00

This is true but it doesnt have to be sad. I think a lot of people do need to go their own way and so do women ( we were never meant to live together). People are so scared of dieing alone but i think if you have a good group of friends you will be ok.

SolitarySuperSoldier · 2019-12-22T15:38:37+00:00

Hypergamy & Briffault's Law, what else do you need to know?

sebastian0801 · 2019-12-22T17:05:20+00:00

Right, you can test it very easy.

If you have a girlfried or wife. After a long work day, when you are look exhausted, and you get home. Tell them you lost your job. And you cant pay the rent/cars/insurences/or some other bills.

Take a week on holiday and sit depressed on the couch. Then tell her you are depressed and you cant go back to work for the next time. And theres two options, first she gets a job and supports him paying the bills. hahaha

seconed she helps him seach for some small social housing unit place. Also help him sell the cars and shit.

If she not left yet she might like your personality.

BlackFire68 · 2019-12-22T17:39:42+00:00

There are some men who would stay with a woman even if she couldn't give him sex. There are almost no women who would stay with a man who cannot give them money and status.

Think about all the men in long-term marriages where they have a "stay at home" wife... for decades. When's the last time you met a woman who has a "stay at home" husband for more than a few months?

There are also men who fuck anything that moves and women ride the cock carousel and then want to settle down (with no practice or skills for doing that).

The second part of the statement is more accurate than the first, certainly and overall I would guess that it is correct more than 50% of the time overall.

Ebenezer_Truth · 2019-12-22T22:06:35+00:00

Men love women for who they ~~are~~ pretend to be vs Women love men for what they can do for them - ftfy

StingRayFins · 2019-12-23T04:45:03+00:00

From my personal experience it's 100% true. All the girls I've dated I dated them because I liked them or because I wanted to give "us" a try. For them, however, they dated me because I was popular, because I was a "lady's man," and because other girls liked me. Out of all the girls I've dated only one or two actually liked me. Most do it for fame, status, money, resources, etc.

There are literally endless facts that this is true. My favorite is how females often times like a guy just because a lot of girls like him. They figured if a lot of girls want to be with that guy and she can get the guy then she "wins." She is the better girl or more desired girl and can make the other girls jealous. This have NOTHING to do with the guy and everything to do with the game. She doesn't have to know him, care about him, understand him, be compatible, get along, nothing. She'll like him because a lot of girls like him and he can boost her image and status.

When a guy likes a girl he actually likes the girl. She can be broke, rich, poor, tons of guys like her or no guys like her. It doesn't matter. Guys like the girl for the girl. She can work at Burger King or be a doctor. He want to be with her, do things with her, share and create things with her, have sex with her. Girls need to understand that most guys have to at least like you to have sex with you. Guys don't have sex with girls they hate or cannot stand. I'm talking an average situation with no drugs or alcohol involved.

Encrypted587 · 2019-12-22T13:06:49+00:00

This is true unfortunately

SawsRUs · 2019-12-22T17:50:35+00:00

If you want to test it, quit your job, then start dating

scaramellozzi · 2019-12-22T21:55:03+00:00

It's partially correct.

Young women love beautiful men because they think they have time to care for money and children.

Walled women, that consumed their time, love men that can provide them a good lifestyle (cheating is part of it ofc but if she has to work a lot she will have no time for sex).

2019-12-23T10:47:54+00:00

I agree with the last part ("women love men for what they can do for them"), but I don't think men "love women for who they are" either. I mean, how often can a man honestly say that women have anything to offer him on a deeper, personal level? Can any man honestly say that other men don't offer him far more of actual cerebral value? Of honesty and 'realness'? As conversational partners? As worthy participants in the exchange of thoughts and ideas? It's just projection at best (as someone else already commented), but I don't think it's even as genuine as that.

Nah. I think us men love women for what they can do for us as well. 'Sex' is obviously a huge factor, and then there's the instinctual need for female validation as well, and the validation you get from society around you for being a "chosen one". But at the end of the day, and especially when you live in a close relationship with a woman, what you want more than anything is for her to just leave you alone. Women are inherently annoying and demanding to be around, so there's always a big sacrifice in getting involved with them. The reason we still do it obviously isn't because we "love them for who they are", but because we "love what they can offer us" too.

The logic behind Going Your Own Way isn't only about female nature, but about our own nature as well - the fact that we're a bunch of phonies as well, driven by instincts that objectively don't serve us well. Making it 100% about women is dangerous, because it makes you vulnerable to the idea of "finding the right woman". If the balance of the cost-benefit analysis rests solely on women, then "the right woman" can make marriage, kids and cohabitation seem like an objectively good idea. Well, it isn't, cause ultimately she's going to bore you to death because you don't "love her for who she is" either. You just tolerate her because -insert instinctual reason-.

Title	Men love women for who they are vs Women love men for what they can do for them
Author	RedPillHasNoAntidote
Upvotes	77
Comments	28
Date	December 22, 2019 10:43 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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