Having never been in a relationship, is it possible to go MGTOW?

debanked · 2019-11-25T15:19:57+00:00

This quote should provide the answer:

"A smart man will learn from his mistakes, a wise man will learn from others mistakes."

2019-11-25T16:17:37+00:00

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2019-11-25T17:53:45+00:00

Good engineers come up with the best answers to life's questions like this response I stumbled across on youtube. You can decide for yourself if it's worth this hassle:

"Women in the early days of humans could not communicate to their mates their needs. They had many babies and they were either pregnant or had a baby clamped to their breast most of the time. In order to indicate they needed the support of their mate they cried - just as children do - because this is a simple non-verbal signal to their mate that they need support of some kind. Men do not cry because they are not supposed to need support - they can just get food when they need and that's it. Men are supposed to provide food to their partners in return for sex - and they are driven to provide food and safety to their partners by their partner's non verbal signals such as facial expressions and crying. Men are taller and stronger than women so they are dominant in the relationship for these reasons and also for the reason of supporting female needs for food whilst rearing babies. These things are all driven by instinct - remember, this was all happening perfectly smoothly before we learned to talk and negotiate different deals. It is baked in the cake and you cannot change it - it's in your subconscious.

For most of human history - millions of years - the above has held true with some minor variations. Now the cultural Marxists behind feminism wanted to promote the idea of female equality, not just in the workplace but in the home. They were not interested in making the world a better place for women - they were just interested in Marxism. So now women demand their partners are their equals. All well and good. However, equality doesn't come naturally - you need to negotiate equality using language in order to make sure both sides are happy they are being treated fairly. This is all fine until the couple are under pressure - maybe because they are raising young children. Then the business of negotiating your way through the relationship falls by the wayside and one person in the relationship starts to dominate. Usually it is the woman because women who consider themselves equals and find a situation out-of-control are not used to relying on the man to take control and don't trust him to do so - so the female gets anxious and takes control for herself.

Now the main problem that women have with being in the dominant position over men is that they have no instinctive way of governing that relationship. They are not designed to dominate men. So they fall into the one instinctive behaviour that can work and that's the mother/son relationship - this is most obvious by the symptom of nagging. Women nag small children because the constant correction of children helps to train them, and if a woman nags a man she is resorting to the same instinctive behaviour to control her partner. Clearly that is not appropriate. Men will put up with this behaviour for some time if they are getting regular sex because they are so sex-driven.

Now you have a situation where a woman is dominating her man and treating him like a child. Women don't want to be in relationships with children. They lose interest in the man they are with, cease having sex with him and start to casually look for someone completely different. Often they go to the opposite extreme - looking for a man that's very dominant to meet their currently unmet instinctive needs. Feminism has ensured that most modern men are not very dominant. The only ones that are are crazy. They have narcissistic personality disorder. Many of these men are good looking and they're usually single because no woman wants to stay with someone with NPD very long - they will fuck anybody and cast them aside like a used tissue. They are abusive. Women often confuse this abuse with the dominance they crave in a man. Of course back in the days when sex before marriage was frowned upon, women were to some degree protected from being used as fuck-toys by such men but feminists got rid of that too. These men are most often not high social status and women looking for a man that can dominate them don't actually care about that at the time.

Men don't need to dominate women - men are driven to involve themselves with women largely for sex. They will cut a woman any deal she wants to get a steady supply of quality sex. Of course other things like companionship/love/affection are mutual bonuses, but it's male sex drive that is the driving force for instigating relationships. Women need to be dominated by men. Not at work, but at home. Not King vs Slave, but I like to describe it as Employer vs Skilled Employee. A man cannot stay in the dominant position if he marries a woman in the West because the laws favour a woman - so don't get married. A man cannot stay in the dominant position if he earns less than his (hypergamous) partner. Remember that hypergamy itself is all about a woman finding a man that she can look up to - a dominant man. If she then makes that dominant man her equal, thanks to the teachings of feminism, pretty soon she's going to need a new dominant man."

p3p3_sylvia · 2019-11-25T15:05:49+00:00

Personally for me no. I had to put myself through the bullshit to learn. It sucked but I learned a lot about myself and the life experience is a vivid reminder of what happens when I choke on the blue pill. It’s smart and good to be able to learn from others mistakes but some things in life you gotta learn for yourself.

2019-11-25T15:21:39+00:00

It's better if you can learn from the mistakes of others. Why make yourself the victim of a broken system, just so you can learn the lessons so many others have learned the hard way?

king_of_the_potato_p · 2019-11-25T16:08:45+00:00

IMO yes.

MGTOW is the conscious decision to no longer pursue long term relationships, marriage, cohabitation, no longer simp, and in general remove yourself from the "game".

2019-11-25T16:09:27+00:00

Is it possible to avoid burning your hand on the stove by looking at the flame and feeling the heat coming off of it, or must you touch the flame and burn your hand first?

The answer is obvious. You're not a toddler. You don't need to touch the stove.

2019-11-25T15:00:04+00:00

Asking that question is like asking "Having never been bitten by a python, it is still safe to handle one".

Encrypted587 · 2019-11-25T15:44:12+00:00

There are two ways you can learn the easy way or the hard way. This sub will help you go in the right direction. You really don't need to go through the whole Bullshit yourself,, just observe other people's

LGarrett_15 · 2019-11-25T15:52:45+00:00

Everyone is different. I, unfortunately, had to learn the hard way about what women are really about because I like to see the best in everyone.

Some, can just do it like it’s no problem. I’d say being as you’ve been focusing on yourself your whole life already, keep going, man. Just don’t seek validation from anyone and just do your thing.

mgtow-for-life · 2019-11-25T17:04:02+00:00

Sure!

anon_likes_tendies · 2019-11-25T17:19:11+00:00

Why would you want to risk half your assets (or more) in the feminism casino?

livingInSimulation · 2019-11-25T17:21:48+00:00

Hell yeah mgtow is for everyone, all it means is no cohabitating with women or marrying a women. We still fuck chicks out here.

mgtow-philosophy · 2019-11-25T17:58:28+00:00

Relationships are not a requirement. Only the desire for self improvement and self validation

screwston281 · 2019-11-25T19:31:59+00:00

Become the best version of yourself.

Aladdin70 · 2019-11-25T15:14:46+00:00

You need to experience the bullshit , you can go MGTOW if u want but it won't have the same effect

UsefulExit · 2019-11-25T16:15:37+00:00

Going your way is a personal choice, and your reasons are your own. You don't need anyone else's permission or validation.

Demiacus · 2019-11-25T16:27:50+00:00

Some people don't want to die alone or think that being in a relationship will bring them happiness and there simply can't be any other way.

If you are ok with you and focus on your on your career, finances, studies and health you are to me at least a man going his way and doing his thing.Also when you look back and say to yourself "Huh, I did all this without a woman by my side.", then you begin to understand that in fact that it was just you underselling yourself and limiting your potential.

Now if you want to do it, go ahead. But don't have expectations from a woman. That's sexist. /s :)

Cheers,

2019-11-25T19:46:43+00:00

It is more difficult because you will always think in the back of your mind that you can come out ahead.

MadLad2019 · 2019-11-25T19:46:48+00:00

It sounds like you are already on your own way, you don't have to be aware of MGTOW to be part of it.

MGTOW_BEASTMODE · 2019-11-25T20:43:21+00:00

You can still have sex.. you just don't have to do the rest of the jumps through hoops of fire.

Malbek604 · 2019-11-25T22:09:00+00:00

Of course. There are no gatekeepers here anyway. Are you going your own way? Then you already are.

AnonDeity · 2019-11-26T03:12:47+00:00

Obviously, its increase you got money now you can provide for women now. You see women have been fucking hot chad guys from 16-25 and now they see you a beta provider for their children. Please engineer please give me kids and take care about me so I can raise kids and never work. Even though I just spent all my time getting a worthless degree I'll never use. I want kids but I also want a carrier. I want it all please take care of me....

I'm M23 I also work in a job that pays engineering level money. You can see women coming for you....

Synthabit · 2019-11-25T14:57:02+00:00

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Ryanreynolds543 · 2019-11-25T19:58:32+00:00

Yeah man best option, if you want to have fun go down to Colombia were the chicks are like 20 bucks, have and come back way better investment then these girls today.

Title	Having never been in a relationship, is it possible to go MGTOW?
Author	Synthabit
Upvotes	29
Comments	30
Date	November 25, 2019 2:53 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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