How do you get over it?

DangZagnut · 2019-10-04T21:13:35+00:00

Intimacy is childish.

What I mean is, it’s a desire for a fetish, like a kid with a wooby or special stuffed animal.

You can do it with anything, a la Tom Hanks and a volleyball named Wilson.

It’s entirely in your head. Another person has absolutely nothing to do with it. Like love it is a psychological illusion to deal with things.

Your brain is quite good at inventing what it needs. You can be “intimate” with a big pillow at the end of a long day in bed.

Ever worked a long day, took a shower, climbed into bed and slept on a big comfy pillow you can wrap you arms around?

Mmmmmm

That’s intimacy right there. Or enjoying a 600 thread count comforter that weighs down on you.

Your desire for intimacy with a woman unfortunately due to cultural programming and lack of dating experience.

That’s just saying girls and only girls, can supply intimacy. That’s a tremendously stupid idea to then become dependent on a woman. Like she cares. They only want that shit in order to start sucking the money out and make you dependent on her.

Might as well be dependent on her for oxygen.

hl100orsmth · 2019-10-04T20:56:47+00:00

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Gibits · 2019-10-04T20:55:49+00:00

I think you first need to get over the idea of having sex for love. It doesn’t exist. Men are shallow and go for looks and youth and women go for resources and social status. That’s “love” nowadays.

Once you get over that you will have more freedom. No need to confide yourself to old fashioned beliefs. Trust me the girls certainly don’t.

roxon89 · 2019-10-04T21:17:03+00:00

I’m older than you so listen to me and listen good.....because here’s the problem.....

Yes....it feels great to be in intimate relationship. Sex is fun. Pleasuring women is fun. Being pleasured by women is fun. It’s REALLY fun

But it only lasts for a few minutes. Then for other 23 1/2 hours in a day, you have to deal with their never ending bullshit. And it’s just not worth it. Trust me when I say....it’s NOT worth it.

Lots of guys have to learn this the hard way. You don’t.

The joy that women bring to your life is NOT outweighed by the pain and misery they bring. Not by a fucking long shot.

hl100orsmth · 2019-10-05T00:59:03+00:00

However, sometimes I wonder what I am missing out on, what intimacy feels like? It's difficult for me because I don't believe in having sex with someone you are not committed to (loyalty and commitment means everything to me).

I've been with a woman that realistically is almost an unicorn, I would say. I won't lie to you, the way she treated me in the beginning was something that I can't forget. Truly amazing.

However, you must realize that it's all a lie. It's a fantasy. That's what they do, they don't mean it. They are just programmed to "break" you and make you fall in love with them. Because they cannot love you, not the way men love them.

For example, everything I did, I meant it. Every single thing. That's how men operate.

Women just do whatever they need to get whatever they need. They have little or no agency, definitely don't think about the future and they don't understand consequences. For example, this particular girl cheated on me, I dumped her on the spot and then she "stalked" me or whatever for months, claiming that she will suicide if I don't go back, etc.

Every normal male would prioritize loyalty over anything else. It makes sense from biological/evolutionary, religious and moral standpoint, but it's as if the creator of this world (if such an entity exists) made a cruel joke and made that impossible.

At best, we can stop women physically from cheating on us by having severe repercussions (as in the past). (For the physical part, "chastity belts" were invented). Of course, nobody teaches this the way I summarized here, but that's the truth. Why else would they design metal armor over their organs, if women could just control themselves? That's how little was expected of them, to not suck cocks and stop having sex with everyone and they couldn't even do that. Men had to invent metal armors to accomplish that (there were no pills/condoms at that time).

But they would still not be loyal the way you would hope so. The way a man can be loyal.

TL;DR (male) loyalty cannot be found in a woman, you'll go nuts looking for it. It doesn't exist. You don't need women except for children, that's the cold reality. You also can't make children with any women because a child needs two normal parents. And it's difficult to find a normal woman in 2019. It's a grave situation, really, I don't know how else to put it.

Good luck dude!

Copypastable · 2019-10-04T20:54:04+00:00

Pump and dump mentality can be shitty, but that's what generally turns them on. If that's not for you, you need to find an alternative(s).

Nikola Tesla died a virgin, citing he had highs seeing his inventions come to life that nothing else could compare to. What may be for him may not be for you, but yours could exist elsewhere.

801735 · 2019-10-04T20:49:53+00:00

I wonder what I am missing out on

Not much good, not missing out on freedom. Most likely a lot more bad, servitude.

I don't believe in having sex with someone you are not committed to (loyalty and commitment means everything to me).

Well, I have bad news for you...

PlayfulCorgi · 2019-10-04T21:30:18+00:00

I learned one thing on the journey of celibacy: embrace your sexual drive. As soon as men get a sexual release, they think, well it’s outta my system for now. Unfortunately, that mentality is only teaching us to constantly get rid of the energy that we naturally have. We’re supposed to live with this sexual drive inside of us, and it’s suppose to compel us to do awesome things. We get frustrated because perhaps we weren’t taught how to channel our sexual energy in a healthy manner. So, by default, we just look to women, or porn, for release. We keep looking to women for gratification because we’re not happy in our own lives. Honestly, women are not suppose to be objects of sexual gratification, even if they want to be. Btw, that’s how they manipulate you. All that sexual energy is a potent source of validation for them. It shows you love her enough to pour your energy into her. Most women waste this energy because they’re spoiled. You’re no exception. You’re also an enabler if you’re having sex with them to gratify yourself. Anyway, just know that when you constantly release, you’re pouring out high levels of energy, and that’s why you feel down or depressed when you’re done. However, when you channel your sexual energy into other activities, you’ll realize every moment of life can feel like sex. Because, those things will actually yield results, like making a baby. When you understand this, you won’t even feel alone anymore, because your feelings will be in tune with nature itself. You’ll realize everything around you is alive and breathing, and finally you’ll start breathing too.

lief04 · 2019-10-05T04:51:25+00:00

Arthur Schopenhauer — 'It is difficult to find happiness within oneself, but it is impossible to find it anywhere else.'

stevenlee321 · 2019-10-04T20:58:32+00:00

Its your mentality that sex is something sacred thats holding you back. Lets be real here. If you're having a good time, and if she's having a good time then whats the big deal?

Just make sure you always wrap it, never stick your D in crazy, and always always always dispose of condoms properly. I almost got screwed by one girl who was inseminating herself with my used condoms trying to tie me down with a baby. Yikers.

Of course, if you dont like the idea of casual sex you could just remain celibate until you die. Your call brother.

buff_minorcan · 2019-10-04T21:01:17+00:00

I mean, good fuck feels good, no question. It’s a huge dopamine rush and can get you really high. That said, finding a matching sexual partner is tough. I had some girls whit whom sex was really meh, and I had some literar holy fucks which I like to remember decades later.

The problem is - and that’s a real problem, the ones who fuck majestically are in my experience not really mother material. Seriously, some of the worst fucks I had was with some girls which had good personality and no major red flags.

There was one, a long, long time ago, who looking back was the best of both worlds, and I think she genuinely cared about me. But I had my whole life ahead of me and I had to check what else is there. Granted, I don’t know where that storyline would have gotten me. Such is life.

softbeats · 2019-10-04T21:07:07+00:00

For the sexual stuff, get better erotic material (porn). If you have kink or preference, you’ll be able to find something you like.

For physical intimacy (cuddling/touching) I like my anime girl body pillow.

TigPlaze · 2019-10-04T21:09:17+00:00

If you need a woman's touch, just hire a quality sex worker. An alternative is a professional cuddlist if you're content with just basic touch and no sex. I do that and it's worth it to me. Keeps my thirst for touch satisfied.

kajEbrA3 · 2019-10-05T04:24:16+00:00

At your age I was experiencing everything that you are describing. I remember my ex-gf pleasuring me, me running my fingers through her long dark hair, caressing her warm skin, telling her that she was the most pleasurable thing that a man could experience in life. At that point in time, I was blue pill.

Do I regret having those experiences with her? Hell No!

I stand behind everything I said and did 100% . Men and women are part of nature. Nature is a beautiful thing. Life is a beautiful thing! Why shouldn't you enjoy being intimate with another human being?

Do I hate her now for choosing her beta-orbitters instead of me and being a narcissistic compulsive liar? Yeah!

Would I do it all over again? Yes, but I would have cut her loose way sooner.

Granted all that happened 5 years ago (I am now 31), and before that I was PUA and the peak of that was 2-girl rotation of HB7s who loved me and respected me. These women would do anything for me, they cooked for me, did favors for me. and NEVER ONCE ASKED ANYTHING FROM ME! (Except to stop seeing other girls, but that was not going to happen - until i met my ex gf)

So now, as long as you understand that women are LIABILITIES, YOUR OWN LIMITS, and BE SMART about what YOU WANT. I say you should approach women with the wisdom of the red pill. there is nothing wrong in gaining pleasure from them.

you are free to do whatever the fff you wanna do!

MrMagtow · 2019-10-05T11:01:28+00:00

Let me point out that you're thinking Blue Pill. Relationships aren't anything like you imagine because you're thinking it's all princesses and rainbows.

Relationships: EVERY day you will get into an argument over stupid shit. If you stand your ground, she hates you and doesn't talk to you for 3 days (and sucks her boss's dick to get revenge on you).
If you capitulate, like many men do, and say sorry, she thinks you're pathetic and not really a man. She'll still talk to you (and she'll suck her boss's dick because he's a real man).

Biology: You have to fap. Every single one of our ancestors banged everyone they could and that's why you're here. Sex is why you exist. Fapping makes the biology quiet for a bit.

Ultimately, be passionate about your hobbies and your career. Get a dog for love. And go and learn how women think, read everything the side-bar, especially 'The Manipulated Man'

Anshumansri · 2019-10-04T20:48:50+00:00

There are not many like us, you and I both. Saw a post today that said. "I'm at the age now where I am dating for marriage not to have fun", and I was one that's exactly what the problem is.. atleast if it's a woman saying that

GoodMan_Gone · 2019-10-04T22:35:30+00:00

Grab some cash. roughly in the 1000$ range will do a good trick and hire one. For that kind of money you can hire quite good quality women. Explain your desire and she will play ball. A professional female sex worker will show you all the way. It might sound blunt but her "acting" can never be guaranteed being different than the prostitutes in denial. A.k.a. regular women. And who knows? If you're genuine and pay the right price that sex worker might actually not faking it at all. There is no law a prostitute can't have a genuine orgasm at her work. Thing is: faking or not: it's all the same anyway.

mgtow_till_death · 2019-10-05T03:43:38+00:00

Regular VR set to watch VR porn while fucking a sex doll.

Do it once in the morning and once in the evening.

Hookers. Every once in a while, get a 10/10, the finest ass of your dreams to fuck. They arent so expensive as you might think. In UK I can find a perfect ass for £200 an hour. And i mean perfect. Other parts in Europe its even cheaper. I suppose its simillar in other parts of the world too.

This way the primitive part of your brain is fooled twice a day by VR porn and sex doll. And in about 1 year you will have fucked at least six perfect girls (hookers). Normal hot women on the street are not going to be the forbidden fruit for your anymore.

Title	How do you get over it?
Author	throwaway37262739
Upvotes	14
Comments	35
Date	October 4, 2019 8:45 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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