Let me just start off and say I think cheating is deplorable.
I have two brothers, John (28) and Matt (25).
Around three years ago, our family exploded when it came out that Matt was having an affair with John's fiance. A fiance who was 6 months pregnant. Matt turned out to be the father.
John was understandably humiliated and angry. I was fully on his side. I was disgusted with Matt and the fiance.
Here's my issue though. At John's insistence, Matt has pretty much been excommunicated from our family. He isn't allowed at any gatherings where John is. And John purposely makes sure he is at every one.
Matt married John's ex-fiance and are raising the 2.5 year old together.
To this day, Matt's wife is referred to as a whore and the baby is called a bastard. Only by John but in our family's presence. He hates them with a passion even today.
My parents have really struggled with this but have agreed to follow John's rule of no contact with the wife or baby. Even contact with Matt is done in secret.
Matt has been kicked out of our family business because John can't be in the same room as him. All photos of Matt have been hidden in the family home. No gifts have been given to Matt's child at all.
Am I absolutely crazy to think that three years of this is enough?
Matt is clearly remorseful and has apologized many times in tears. He clearly regrets hurting our brother.
I can understand that John is absolutely hurt and it must've been the most painful betrayal.
But I still love both my brothers. Matt did a shitty thing but how much more does he need to be punished?
My poor parents have been broken hearted for the past three years because of this. They have confided in me that they are willing to forgive Matt and move on and regret letting it get this far. We were such a tight knit family before.
But I'm really worried that suggesting forgiveness with John will cause a massive fight and he'll make us choose between them. I also worry about his mental health.
There also the innocent child in this. He deserves a relationship with his grandparents and his aunt.
I have recently been visiting Matt and his family. They are clearly struggling with the isolation. His wife broke down and apologized as I held my nephew for the first time. My heart tore in two.
AITA for wanting to bring them into our family again and forgiving them? There is family reunion coming up in a week and I want them to attend.
[–]NeverTrustAVaJayJay2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course the whore sister wants to forgive.
Disgusting.
[–]yasin_m2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Because she understands it was just one shitty mistake. And she forgives him so it doesn't matter what her brother thinks he is being unreasonable. /s
[–]Doogie762 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you fucking kidding me? Guy fucks his brothers soon to be wife and gets her pregnant. If it was my brother he'd be dead to me too. There are just certain lines you don't cross
[–]Lucius_Faust2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well at least replies are pretty Red Pilled, standing with the brother who's future was ripped appart by his sibling and fiancee. There are also some blue pilled shit, but it's like a blue drop on the Red Sea :)
The best reply there:
Yes, you're insane.
YTA.
No he isn't. He just realized his consequences. People that do these things don't understand remorse - they understand that they didn't get away with it.
Forever. This isn't something that gets forgiven. This is a forever punishment. This is what Matt signed up for. He should have known this would be the outcome. He decided to do this.
You're upset with the wrong brother. Matt destroyed the family. Don't put any blame on John. He is acting the way anyone would.
You are choosing between them. You're picking Matt over John if you want forgiveness.
Blame the child's parents for that. This is like being upset at the state that a kid's parents go to jail if they commit crimes. They did this. Blame them.
Then you picked them over the brother that did nothing wrong. You decided you'd rather be comfortable with how things were than actually do the right thing by the brother that didn't ruin everything.
Good.
Boohoo for them. They're upset they got caught. This stays forever. You picked them, so prepare to also start being on the outside. You picked the people that would hurt family for personal fun.
You deserve to be brothers with Matt. I feel so sorry for John, he got two shit siblings.
[–]madeinheaven111 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Leave it to a whore to destroy a tight knit family.