BoneCrker Summed Up

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January 26, 2017

There has been a lot of literature and books recommended in the Red Pill Manosphere. BoneCrker was constantly being talked about in comment threads and in the reading requirements along with the Book of Pook. After reading all 183 articles, I have summed up the most important points to take away from it, I highly suggest reading this. My personal opinion: It is obvious the author was hurt by his fiance/wife of ten years & talks about the female gender with such hatred. I also wonder why he strongly resents the American Westernized Female in comparison to other female cultures



•\tUnderstand this, if nothing else. They all leave eventually. Either they walk out, or they do something so bad that you had better throw them out. When you get involved with one, you need to keep this in mind. Since it is going to happen anyway, it really is no big deal. Also, you have absolutely no reason to limit yourself to only them. When the time comes, they will present it as one of the several variations of the dramatic breakup. Your response should be: So? Preferably, it should only mean that you spend more time with a girl or two you see on the side while you shop around for a replacement.


•\tThe best, most effective way to handle abuse, for both men and women, is to nip it in the bud. Absolutely refuse to even give the time of day to anyone who even gives you the slightest possible suspicion they are abusive. At even the slightest hint of abuse, break things off immediately and refuse to ever talk to that person exceptions. This is important because abusers will test the waters with you by seeing if you will take them back. Make sure they find out that you won't.


•\tTo put it another way, American women are not walking astray. They are engaged in intentionally evil acts with full awareness of what they are doing. If it was the former, you would simply shepherd them to another, better way. Since it's the latter, your behaviour must be designed to severely limit your potential as a victim.


•\tWhen a woman reaches about age 25, she starts to hunt for a man who is both wealthy and weak willed. Both qualities are very important, because her sole purpose for hunting this man is to attach herself vampire-like onto him and drain him for all he is worth. They continue to screw bad men during the entire marriage. Strong willed men quickly say no to this crapola and move on to the next woman. After a while, they start to wonder if all women are vampires trying to trick them into a bad situation. Certainly they don't meet anyone who actually cares for him and sincerely wants to be his wife.


•\tSchools are spending more and more time socializing kids in ways their parents would not approve of and less time educating those kids (this includes college, in a big way).


•\tA woman has a shelf-life of age 15 to 35, maximum. She's really only available between the ages of 20 and 29. After that, her unacceptableness becomes much more obvious. If they didn't want money from us, they wouldn't even bother to go shopping around for a meal ticket at that age. They wouldn't even pretend to be part of our social groups.


•\tWhatever you do, don't get married to an American woman. All she wants is to take advantage of you, if not outright exploit you. Do not move in with a woman. Do not be monogamous.


•\tSo, who should pay? My answer is you should dodge the question entirely. Never go anyplace that costs money. Go places like walks and picnics and parks. Jokingly tell her that you expect for her to pay. Dump any woman that constantly sniffs around for gifts or expects you to take her to expensive places.


•\tGoing from a not confident to a confident person involves only one thing... cultivating power. Do all of those things likely to bring you power. Work out until you are strong. Mind your business until you are rich. Eliminate useless behaviours. Build your kingdom of people and resources until it is unassailable. Be competent in everything you do. Those are the things that bring confidence. Nothing else does.


•\tI keep saying it, but nobody really believes me (until they experience it for themselves). Women ignore objective signs of worth and status and instead make decisions on attraction mostly at random. Signs of worth... tall, looks, money, muscles, status, don't change greatly who is attracted to you. I'm undecided if fame actually does make more women attracted or if it simply makes the women who like you anyway, hunt you down in an obsessive way. What it does affect is their aggressiveness. Don't build muscles and a hot body in the gym (ditto for making cash, wearing cool clothes etc.) thinking it will get you a certain type of girl (or worse, a specific girl) because it won't (much to my dismay). You do it because it affects your own confidence and it makes the women (the same exact women who were already attracted to you), more attracted. More of them reveal themselves to you, and they make it easier for you to get them.


•\tA woman can easily orgasm with any man she chooses to. If the woman you are with isn't orgasming, it's because she chooses to see you as someone who isn't sexually stimulating, hence the need for “romance”. It is extremely important to understand that (within limits) how sexual you appear toward a woman isn't under your direct control. You can slim down, lift weights and even get cosmetic surgery and she won't be attracted. She will, temporarily, be attracted to a guy who makes himself unavailable. And she definitely will be attracted if you make yourself inappropriate in some way (leather jackets, tattoos, earrings and other bad boy image stuff are favourites).


•\tUntil you put your penis in a woman, you mean nothing to her, no matter what. Even after that, many will still flake on you soon after.


•\tMost men, who get married, can expect their life to turn to shit, because of direct behaviours from their women. No man wants that, and any man who even thinks he might someday want to be married, and have a family, is desperately looking for the woman who isn’t like that.


•\tIn practical terms that means no marriage and no living together. It means saying no to almost everything a woman asks of you. It means making sure she can’t get pregnant from you. It means not hiring women (and hiding that fact). It means not relying on women doctors, lawyers, accountants etc. It means voting against any candidate who tries to force you, through various means to support these women (ie no welfare, no child support laws, no funky divorce laws, and taxes and government spending, especially socialist spending kept to a minimum).


•\tThe most effective way to set limits isn’t through what I say, but rather through what I do. And, what I do is limit the time I spend with a woman and refuse certain activities (like meeting her family). That’s OK with most women (as long as you don’t lie or use or abuse them) for varying amounts of time. Then they wander off. You need to be OK with that. And you won’t be OK with that unless you have another to take her place. And you won’t have another to take her place if you stop looking for interested women every time you meet one.


•\tThere are two things that all men need to know about domestic violence that very few men actually know. The first is that women usually initiate domestic violence. Sure, there are a handful of wacko men who like to beat women and women flock to these men so they have no lack of victims. But, for the most part women will engage in specific behaviours (including but not limited to hitting the man) to try and initiate a physically abusive relationship. Most of these behaviours involve shame and humiliation of some sort. The second thing men need to know is that violence against women is the normal, instinctual defence mechanism to prevent insane behavior on the part of women, from threatening survival. Quite literally, the woman is ripping apart the relationship and violence is the last ditch effort to prevent that from happening. It should be rare, but it’s not.


•\tIt would be accurate to say that all married women are available…..much more available than single women. A single woman will snub every man she is attracted to until her lack of sexual fulfillment overwhelms her. Then, she will “binge” on the first readily available man, usually someone inappropriate. But a married woman is completely different. You would think that since she is taken she wouldn’t give other men the time of day. But that isn’t true, nearly 100% of the time. Instead, her marriage means NOTHING to her. However, she is no longer “saving herself for marriage”, so to speak, and goes after any man she is attracted to (unlike with men, this is pretty much random). If that happens to be you, she shows you much attention and is nice to you…..making you attracted to her.


•\tMost women absolutely will not consider a man who isn’t choosy about women. You’re being choosy comes out quite clearly and early in any encounter with her (indeed, she tests for it). Fail the test and she’s gone. Pass the test and advance to the next level. If you aren’t choosy, huge quantities of women discount you within ten seconds of meeting them. The pool increases because, even though you get rid of five, ten more see you doing this and become interested. My point here is women don’t choose you for any particular quality you have. So gaining those qualities is relatively ineffective at getting them (the opposite however isn’t true….women will discount you if you have certain negative qualities….especially being fat or not having basic fashion sense). Women primarily choose you on how far above them you are on the pecking order. They look primarily to how you treat them (nice or nasty, your message must be that they are below you) and how and who you interact with. If you kick a woman to the curb for bad behavior, you automatically become more attractive to all the others. The higher status the woman, the more attractive.


•\tThe problem here is women are totally lying about wanting to be empowered. To have power, one must have independence and be self-reliant. This is the exact opposite of what women and children have been for most of human history. Instead of being independent and self-reliant (ie having power) they have been dependent and relied on men for everything. In return, there is a bunch of stuff they are expected to give men…..certain roles they must perform for the system to work.


•\tThere are three things you need if you want a lot of women to be attracted to you. The first is you need to be in shape. Not being fat is good but being muscular is better. The second thing you need is the right clothes. What are the right clothes? The clothes that women react positively to you in (as opposed to the clothes you want to be wearing). Want to learn more about the right clothes than you ever wanted to know? Go sign up for one of R Don Steele’s workshops on this. Be polite. Steele isn’t known for tolerating bad behavior….at all. The third thing you need is the right attitude. Whole books can and have been written about this. But, the crux of the issue is you must be completely assertive with a woman, have options and be willing to dump women who engage in bad behavior. Steele is a good source and I highly recommend his books.


•\tIt’s very difficult to come to terms with how quickly an important relationship (important to you, not to her) evaporates. It’s happened to me. It’s happened to a lot of guys here. All I can say is there is a hell of a lot more going on with women, particularly women like this, than meets the eye. Much of it is intentional deception on their part, much of it is psychotic behavior (literally in this case, with a diagnosis like bipolar). Because of this, and because of certain patterns of behavior that go along with this, it just isn’t safe for you to still have her in your life. You need to train yourself to discount what women say and watch for patterns in what they do. In this case, she is telling you certain things but I think you should protect yourself from certain behaviours she is likely to engage in.


•\tAbuse is a game you can’t win. As a matter of fact, the main purpose of abuse is to get you to abuse her. Once a relationship has devolved into abuse it becomes very unstable and feeds off the abuse. This often involves slow but steady escalation. The only way to handle this is to terminate the relationship, quickly and permanently. Having other options (ie other women) is an excellent technique to absolutely prevent abuse. Women whine incessantly that men are abusers but that’s a lie. The truth is that, mysteriously, abuse is completely absent when a man reserves options (forbids monogamy and living together). Quite literally, physical and verbal abuse is a cycle that women start, women maintain, and women escalate. Making it clear that the relationship is over at the very FIRST sign of this, is 100% effective in preventing all abuse. Don’t ever put up with the slightest bad behavior. You don’t have to play that game. Doing so makes you a loser.


•\tCould? Will is more like it. She WILL walk out of your life without remorse. This is a concept you absolutely must understand when dealing with western women. She WILL walk out of your life without remorse AND, depending on how embedded she was in your life, cause varying levels of problems WHEN she leaves AND, depending on how fucked up she is, try to harm you and/or any children you have together, up to the limit you allow her to.


•\tThe problem here is that women lie about anything and everything….often for no reason at all. Most men, not being liars themselves, never consider that other people, particularly their women friends and loved ones, are liars. It takes getting burned, often several times, before a man wakes up to rule number one when dealing with women……don’t listen to anything they say, no matter how minor, because it’s a lie. That’s not enough though. It takes major education and rehabilitation before men even learn about rule number two (let alone, live it)… are the most important person in any relationship with women. … 1) Who care what they say. It’s either a lie or a manipulation and usually both. So don’t listen to it. 2) I am the only important person in my relationships (no matter the type) with women.


•\tWhat a woman wants from a man isn’t for him to be powerful. If this was true than large, strong, rich men with high IQs would be overrun with pussy. Sadly, this isn’t the case. At best, a woman looks for a man like this who is easily manipulated (a rare find) so that she can feed off him during the last stages of her self-destruction. But what women go after with zeal and verve are the losers of our society…..uneducated, drug-using, criminal scum. Are these men powerful? Absolutely not. That’s why they stab you in the back but wouldn’t dare face you man to man. It’s also why they are complete failures in life…..they are weak beyond belief. But, other than being weak these bozos have one thing in common…..they are all evil. And it is that evil that attracts women.


•\tHowever, it all starts with one simple word… No is the magic word that will protect you from women… No, we won’t get married. No, you can’t move in with me. No, I don’t want to meet your parents. No, that kid isn’t mine. No, you can’t have any money. No, I just don’t want a monogamous relationship. No. No. No. No. NO.


•\tWomen don’t love you, they love the fantasy of you and all that revealing just bursts their bubble. The second is anything you do say should be completely goal focussed. Think about this. You want something from her. The things you say to her should have the goal of opening the path to her giving it to you. If you are talking about something (rather than inane small talk) or explaining something, you have drifted away from your goal and are fucking up.


•\tThe problem with living together is it’s a huge scam. You think you are getting a girlfriend but the only reason she is there at all is to spend 100% of her time manipulating you into marriage, while blocking off your access to other women. If you don’t have options, her behavior goes hog wild. Your ability to walk away is severely compromised. You’ll definitely be abused and you will probably end up married.


•\tThe way you get power with women is to get one, and then you have slightly more power with women than you had before. Where most men fuck up is they immediately stop trying to be with any woman except who they are already with. This is a normal and natural thing to do. You are SUPPOSED to seek a deeper relationship and foster love between you. But women just aren’t interested in that and actually disrespect any man who follows that strategy with women. What you should do is keep on looking for women and use the extra oomph you have from already being involved to more easily get a second. This gives you even more power with women so you can get a third. Now, it’s time to use that extra power to get rid of the ugliest one and replace her with a higher status woman. In general, women who are married are the lowest status as are fat women (i.e. they make a good starting point). Older women have lower status than younger ones. Richer girls are more status than poor, uneducated ones. And everyone knows that pretty girls and sexy girls (not necessary the same thing) have the highest status of all.


•\tEverything out of a woman’s mouth is a lie…..especially when they want you to talk to them about something. There can be no resolution of problems because there is no transparency, no introspective honesty on their part. What they want, as far as this goes, is to be heard, not to communicate. The act of being heard by another is addictive to them. If you are a good listener and can clamp down on your own need to say stuff, you can manipulate how they see you, and, indirectly, how they treat you. Good treatment comes when a woman sees you as powerful, desirable and very much prone to being stolen by the competition. One thing that has zero effect on how they treat you is talking things out, and working through relationship issues. The reason is simple. While you may be sincere and motivated to have a deep meaningful relationship based on equality, trust and mutual caring, respect, warmth and love…..she NEVER is. She may pretend to but it is an exercise in pain, as she manipulates you into doing one inappropriate thing after another while constantly changing the rules at random. But, take one step outside that door, and see her behavior change instantly. Of course, eventually, she will boot your ass right out that very same door. But she was going to do that eventually, anyway.


•\tI learned a very painful lesson cohabitating with a woman for 10 years. That lesson was that women never truly become attached to any man, no matter how deep or intense the relationship seems, no matter how monogamous or even if you are engaged, married whatever. My woman and I were everything to eachother and planned to get married as soon as we both had our doctorates. I stood by her through incredibly tough times and took care of her, moulding her from the silly bitch she was into a capable and successful professional woman. And she walked out of my life without a second thought, for no discernable reason. Literally, the week before, she made me swear to never leave her and to love her forever. She took our love and murdered it, in exchange for something sick and unworthy.


•\tWhen it comes to American women, just say no to any sort of closeness or permanent relationship. When you are ready to give up your 5 girlfriends who don’t even know (and don’t care) what your last name is, marry an Asian chick. This is no guarantee of happiness but marriage and sincere love are at least possible.


•\tOne of the most important reasons to have more than one woman at once. Because this phenomenon also works in reverse. If a woman sees you with another woman, it does two things. It provides "social proof" that you are attractive. Amazingly, for many, if not most women, it doesn’t matter if you meet THEIR standard for attractiveness, at all. What matters is that other women want you…..that makes you attractive. The other thing is does is it makes women compete over you. They look at dating as a zero sum game. If another woman has you, then there are less men for her.


•\tThat’s the big problem with online personals. Just like going to the nightclub, the women there have too many options and too many men trying to get their attention. Their goal isn’t the same as your goal. Your goal is to meet someone. Their goal is to have their worth validated. Their goal is met right away so why should they do anything more? A fraction of them have the same goal as you. But the ratio of men to available women who want to meet them is like 100 to a 1000 to one.


•\tA woman’s need to talk is one of the key methods of manipulating them. If you can act like you are actually interested in what they are saying, they will think you are a brilliant, interesting individual. Ironically, talking yourself lowers your worth. It’s best if they know as little about you as possible, so that their own mind fills in the blanks with something they find romantic. Your goal here is to sleep with them once. Because, if you sleep with them once, you can sleep with them multiple times, for as long as it lasts (usually, not long).


•\tThe point here is you should be spending almost no energy on any one woman and instead should be focussed on screening the general population for new ones. Women are not sincere and they don’t care even a little bit about you, no matter what you do (although they will pretend otherwise to get something from you). Plus, they are near random in whether they will suck your cock or not 5 minutes after you meet them. The implications for this are immense.


•\tOne of the big differences between men and women is men want sex with a woman who cares about them and women want to have sex (only) with a man who could care less about them. But, both men and women want to have sex. Part of the reason is women are soooooooo insecure about themselves. They desperately need validation that they aren’t worthless worms (which of course, they are, unfortunately). They know the truth of this, deep down and the very minute you give them that validation, they assume the reason must be because you are even more of a worthless worm than they are. It’s sick. Of course, it’s also exploitable. Hold out the lure of validation but don’t actually give it to them.


•\tThere is a basic understanding about the nature of American women that you are missing. And that basic misunderstanding is (unlike what is normal for men and women in every culture), love just isn’t real for women here. Quite frankly, they just don’t give a shit about you or anyone else they are involved with. They form no lasting attachments and tend to flitter randomly from one situation to another. Manipulation, lying and self-deception is what it is all about. What’s going on with this woman is she is looking to replace her current boyfriend, or at the very least, has hit the point where she has no respect for him at all. The behavior this translates into is her cheating with every man she can get her hands on, and you just happened to be available. But does she act like some slut who is on the make? Nooooooo, that would be wrong. Instead, she acts like a young woman in love. It’s a total lie. What she wanted was for you to fuck her in the car and then get the hell out when you were done. Her behavior toward you afterward is to deny responsibility for what she has done. After she was done with you, she ran over to her boyfriend and reduced his sperm count to zero, out of guilt. A lot of women will do this, ESPECIALLY women you have been involved with in the past or who were friends with you and are now married. It’s one of the sick, reliable repeating patterns of women. Sad, but true.


•\tThis topic is one of the many problems that happens when you allow a woman to weasel her way into living with you (which is part of the point as to why she wanted to). You can’t easily leave. You definitely can’t leave without destroying the relationship. Contrast this with what you could do if you weren’t living together. "Look babe, I’m just not satisfied with your behavior. I’ll be back when you decide to behave. If it happens too many times, I won’t come back." Not sleeping with her (especially if you are sleeping with someone else) becomes empowering, rather than disempowering. Of course, she can do the same thing, but while your your desirability goes up when you do this, hers goes down. Plus, don’t kid yourself; she is going to do it anyway. Why should you accept the problems inherent in monogamy when she won’t?


•\tThis is one of the things that really pisses me off about women. NONE of the things that make me a desirable man (money, looks, body, personality etc.) that I work on, mean a damn thing to them. In fact, many of these things are a detriment, as they chase after omega male (scumbag) traits. But, social proofing….THAT matters. I got news for them. Social proofing pretty much means I can’t or simply won’t give them what they want. Social proofing means one of three things. I’m not going to commit, under typical circumstances (me). I’m taken, so you have no chance with me (typical married guy). Or, worst of all, I’m taken and I’m the type of lying, cheating, scum who will do it with someone behind my wife’s back (ie poor character). Social proofing has negative survival value for women. It’s neurotic and unnatural.


•\tThe measure of a person’s worth, man or woman, is their actions…..what they do with their life, the virtues they cultivate and the way they impact the world. EVERY person is in full control of their worth. Further, how other people view you has virtually no bearing at all on your worth. You have the sole authority and responsibility to judge your own actions. The better you are at doing this and in choosing what you do wisely, the more empowered you become. Weak, fucked up people will try to deny what you are. But they are nothing to the person who cultivates power this way. Also, unlike the fucked up manipulator, a worthy person never lacks for friends, allies and others who will help him.

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Title BoneCrker Summed Up
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Date 26 January 2017 06:29 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

All true... but this is coming from the place of expecting women to be something they're not.

You don't expect a glass of beer to be loyal, to have your back, to refuse to be drunk by other men.

You just expect the beer to be wet and to be enjoyable for the evening.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

oh just made a metaphor for life.

[–]TheYoungOwl_8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

I find myself agreeing with the post, however there is a reoccurring thought here about evil.

We need to remember that human nature is AMORAL, and EVIL is a social construct (evil is what you believe it to be). What you say women doing is considered evil I say that it is their primary survival mechanism.

You say they don't care about anyone, I will share with you a plethora of historical and personal anecdotes of a woman's love for her children and their survival. The basic foundation of survival for ALL of God's creatures.

Yes women don't care about you, but they care about the children you give them. They are after all biologically programmed to want a child from a 20% man, and you should be flattered if a women wants a child with you because of your genes and nothing else.

Women are attracted to losers because of their "IDGAF" mentality, not because they are inherently "evil."

These "EVIL" points sound so anger phase, and misogynistic. We need to deplete all forms of misogyny within the red pill if we are to be taken seriously as a branch of philosophy.

[–]PranksterLad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting points actually.

[–]radioactivities91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The problem here is women are totally lying about wanting to be empowered. To have power, one must have independence and be self-reliant

No. Even women who just score power by snagging a powerful man share that power.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

In before Purple Pillers start trying to poke holes in a god tier post.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Their brains all exploded. This thread will be quiet.

[–]gecko4080 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Anger phase is gunna be angry.

[–]PranksterLad0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I am in the realizing phase, where I realize all of it is True, and I dont know what to do about it all.

[–]gecko4080 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

My friend, its okay to be angry when you first swallow trp. Eventually you'll laugh at how silly women are. It's like playing chess but knowing every move your opponent will make before they even make it.

Oneitis is a curse and we all experienced it hence why we came here in the first place. You now know to never invest your energy into a woman. Refocus that energy to enlightening yourself. One of the greatest feelings is when you give up the chase for women and start focusing on your well being. Chase financial success, pick up a hobby thatll keep you in shape and one thatll exercise your mind. You'll one day find yourself getting women trying for your attention and the ball will be forever in your court.

[–]PranksterLad-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy


It's just I am so sick of knowing their bull shit moves, I want to feel like I can be real with my girl, that they won't fuck me over, that I can be human and show them weaknesses. I miss my ex so much.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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