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[–]sam123cherif4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly for me you lose on both side here
[–]Raider_Scavver3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female promiscuity (matriarchy) means most men lose out because of hypergamy. Patriarchy (monogamy) is the only way all decent men get a fair shot. To deny this is either ignorance or stupidity. Go read Sex And Culture by J.D. Unwin, who proved that civilization (complex societies) cannot arise without enforced pre-marital chastity and post marital faithfulness.
[–]Vaxel00-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The sexual revolution did more for men than it did for women.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As in what way, exactly? If you consider widely accepted sexual looseness of both sexes as beneficial for men, then I beg to disagree.
[–]Vaxel002 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Traditionalism is just as gynocentric as feminism, except is based on the sacrifice of the man.
I don't know if you would like to marry and have children should the laws be different, but in my case, thanks to second wave feminism the family got changed so much that bachelorhood is no longer frowned upon, I can actually go my own way without having my family disown me and everyone thinking I'm a closeted gay.
I don't bring morals to the argument because morals are fluid with the epoch, I only see the objectivity of things.
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[–]Vaxel00-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In reality, before the pill, before second wave feminism and the sexual revolution, men were still scared of getting married to a vicious woman.
Now men have the option of not getting married if they want to have sex and men have the option of never getting married if they don't want to without the social stigma that came with it.
So, it's not about the sex, women got the freedom to have sex without fearing pregnancy.
Men got freedom.
[–]binkerfluid0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
im not religious AT ALL but the Bible has a whole verse on about how its better to do X (sleep on the corner of your roof etc) than to live with a bitter woman
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