In addition, any resultant child he should not have to pay for. It is pretty simple. Let's say the child support is $500/mo. That can't go away because "derp, child" logic.
So, HIS damages are $500/mo. So, SHE owes HIM $500/mo. So, she can go work at mcdonalds. He can hand her $500/mo. She can then take $500/mo out of her mcdonalds wages and hand it back to him.
I'm going through it, and the argument is that "even if it is not popular outside of reddit or not spoken about openly, it's still upvoted and greatly popular here on this subreddit, therefore it's not unpopular and should be removed". Wtf is even the point of the subreddit, then?
They seem to be claiming that the fact that it was so upvoted proves that it is actually a popular opinion, and therefore it has no place on the subreddit, which should be reserved only for actually unpopular opinions that people there will hate.
Seems like the subreddit will crash in popularity if they really try to only host content that everyone legitimately hates.
Statutory rape is a sexual act involving penetration that is wholely reliant on one party coercing or decieving another to occur, with the opposite party unable to understand such an action is taking place.
Consent is a process which both parties establish an unconscious or conscious contract in order to both adhere to it. Anything outside of said contract is therefore unconsentual.
So, not consenting to sex without birth control and it being forced upon you unknowingly can count as statutory rape. It relies on coercing a false contract under the pretense of no deceit and one party unable to understand such subterfuge took place.
My pleasure, but I'm sorry to say it's not legalese. I'm not a lawyer nor do work in any judicial field. It's just worded in a way that accurately describes something most people may consider abstract.
I don't want people to assume that I gave legal advice and harmed themselves in any way. I simply reasoned what statutory rape and consent would mean at their core and described them as such.
Ah gotcha, sorry my towering autism sometimes gets in the way of understanding. Thanks for clearing it up, and perhaps someday this could be a law someday? Wouldn’t that be something. Seriously, it seems men have virtually no legal protections when it comes to fertility.
You won't get repercussions because a child is not a damage case. Obviously it is for your monetary situation but in there will be no law protecting your assets.
The PC warriors of Reddit mostly hold the position that advocating for your own rights or celebrating your identity, especially if you are not a woman or historically oppressed minority, comes at the expense of other rights. If someone consents to sex under the condition that birth control is used and one party, through deception or otherwise, deviates from those agreed conditions then that individual has forced someone into a sexual act to which they did not consent. It doesn't matter what the gender of the people involved are.
My response to that is Europe was invaded, raped and enslaved for thousands of years by outside groups (Huns, Mongols, Avars, Alans, Turks, Moors, etc etc); and had a few hundred years of returning the favor and somehow white people are all evil.
I also say its a grand-fucking shame that Europeans left Europe, instead of choosing to not interact, not trade, not exploit. Europeans should have stayed in Europe, had the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution as they did, but never brought technology or science or rule of law to the rest of the world.
Europe should have minded their own backyard, and let the rest of the world wallow in their ignorance and filth. After all, why force the rest of the world to be guilty of "cultural appropriation" by getting them to have constitutions, rule of law, flush toilets, books, medicine, science, or electricity?
It is the same thing as if a woman lies about her age, a man lies about having a condom on, a woman deceives him with layers of makeup, a man deceives her by stuffing a banana in his pants, etc.
But of course consistency is a tool of the patriarchy, so only when the man takes advantage of the woman is it rape. When the woman does it, she suffers zero consequences and the man STILL foots the bill.
Occasionally I'll see some redpilled topics on unpopularopinion, and given how it was 85% upvoted it was probably hit by a lot of redpills, so the cucked mods had to get rid of it because it made women look bad. If for example that thread was 85% UNpopular, the mods may have kept it.
Fraud yes, rape no. Let's not fall into the feminist doublethink bubble of redefining words every day based on a perceived political gain from doing so.
Personally I'd be happy if women just got prosecuted for birth control fraud or tampering the same way guys do. Here's that equality you wanted, ladies!
[–]RedMeatTrinket45 points46 points47 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I can see that logic. She used manipulative language to get him to have sex in a situation he would normally not have.
[–]RagingHardBull17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
In addition, any resultant child he should not have to pay for. It is pretty simple. Let's say the child support is $500/mo. That can't go away because "derp, child" logic.
So, HIS damages are $500/mo. So, SHE owes HIM $500/mo. So, she can go work at mcdonalds. He can hand her $500/mo. She can then take $500/mo out of her mcdonalds wages and hand it back to him.
That's his damages due to the fraud.
[–]Itsbbbitch40 points41 points42 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The fact that the OP was removed by mods speaks volumes and proves his point for him.
[–]-Fender-13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm going through it, and the argument is that "even if it is not popular outside of reddit or not spoken about openly, it's still upvoted and greatly popular here on this subreddit, therefore it's not unpopular and should be removed". Wtf is even the point of the subreddit, then?
[–]back2dahfuture32 points33 points34 points (1 child) | Copy Link
this opinion was so unpopular that the mods had to remove it!!! Honk Honk
[–]-Fender-6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They seem to be claiming that the fact that it was so upvoted proves that it is actually a popular opinion, and therefore it has no place on the subreddit, which should be reserved only for actually unpopular opinions that people there will hate.
Seems like the subreddit will crash in popularity if they really try to only host content that everyone legitimately hates.
[–]penguinpits6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I agree
Statutory rape is a sexual act involving penetration that is wholely reliant on one party coercing or decieving another to occur, with the opposite party unable to understand such an action is taking place.
Consent is a process which both parties establish an unconscious or conscious contract in order to both adhere to it. Anything outside of said contract is therefore unconsentual.
So, not consenting to sex without birth control and it being forced upon you unknowingly can count as statutory rape. It relies on coercing a false contract under the pretense of no deceit and one party unable to understand such subterfuge took place.
[–]squeegypeegy0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the legalese breakdown! 🤘
[–]penguinpits0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
My pleasure, but I'm sorry to say it's not legalese. I'm not a lawyer nor do work in any judicial field. It's just worded in a way that accurately describes something most people may consider abstract.
I don't want people to assume that I gave legal advice and harmed themselves in any way. I simply reasoned what statutory rape and consent would mean at their core and described them as such.
[–]squeegypeegy1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah gotcha, sorry my towering autism sometimes gets in the way of understanding. Thanks for clearing it up, and perhaps someday this could be a law someday? Wouldn’t that be something. Seriously, it seems men have virtually no legal protections when it comes to fertility.
[–]FightClubHamster692 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I do t see that as rape, that’s just being manipulative. There should be some repercussions for it of course but I don’t think it’s rape.
[–]justletmemakeanacc10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's called reproductive coercion. It's considered domestic abuse and is taken seriously in exactly 0 situations where the male is the victim.
[–]FightClubHamster691 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah. Learn something new every day
[–]noobahoi0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You won't get repercussions because a child is not a damage case. Obviously it is for your monetary situation but in there will be no law protecting your assets.
Just don't believe such statements.
[–]veritas19831 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
The PC warriors of Reddit mostly hold the position that advocating for your own rights or celebrating your identity, especially if you are not a woman or historically oppressed minority, comes at the expense of other rights. If someone consents to sex under the condition that birth control is used and one party, through deception or otherwise, deviates from those agreed conditions then that individual has forced someone into a sexual act to which they did not consent. It doesn't matter what the gender of the people involved are.
[–]JihadNinjaCowboy1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
My response to that is Europe was invaded, raped and enslaved for thousands of years by outside groups (Huns, Mongols, Avars, Alans, Turks, Moors, etc etc); and had a few hundred years of returning the favor and somehow white people are all evil.
I also say its a grand-fucking shame that Europeans left Europe, instead of choosing to not interact, not trade, not exploit. Europeans should have stayed in Europe, had the Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution as they did, but never brought technology or science or rule of law to the rest of the world.
Europe should have minded their own backyard, and let the rest of the world wallow in their ignorance and filth. After all, why force the rest of the world to be guilty of "cultural appropriation" by getting them to have constitutions, rule of law, flush toilets, books, medicine, science, or electricity?
[–]roflcopt0rz_returns1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It is the same thing as if a woman lies about her age, a man lies about having a condom on, a woman deceives him with layers of makeup, a man deceives her by stuffing a banana in his pants, etc.
But of course consistency is a tool of the patriarchy, so only when the man takes advantage of the woman is it rape. When the woman does it, she suffers zero consequences and the man STILL foots the bill.
Occasionally I'll see some redpilled topics on unpopularopinion, and given how it was 85% upvoted it was probably hit by a lot of redpills, so the cucked mods had to get rid of it because it made women look bad. If for example that thread was 85% UNpopular, the mods may have kept it.
[–]SelfHatingNiglet0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes but society doesn't give af about a man's problems. Especially not when its number 1 priority, women, have anything to say about it
[–]KneeDeepThought0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fraud yes, rape no. Let's not fall into the feminist doublethink bubble of redefining words every day based on a perceived political gain from doing so.
Personally I'd be happy if women just got prosecuted for birth control fraud or tampering the same way guys do. Here's that equality you wanted, ladies!