Interested to read your thoughts and perspective on my situation

H1v3-m1nd · 2019-01-11T08:52:09+00:00

Would you play russian roulette if 5/6 of the chambers had bullets?

Scimiturds · 2019-01-11T08:47:50+00:00

You need a tl;dr

Its not that all women are gold digging, narcissistic etc. etc.

Its that all women are hypergamous, gynocentric, solipsistic etc. These are innate, built in biological traits, just like men have their own, specific biological traits.

But, not all women act on those instincts. That is the difference.

So why should a regular man run a lottery on whether his woman will suddenly flip the hypergamy switch, when it suits her?

You wouldn't play russian roulette without knowing the consequences.

angelojch · 2019-01-11T08:48:28+00:00

There are certainly many good women out there. But... the problem is that the bad ones are not easily recognized and now they have too much power. So much that it is dangerous to even try. As a result, the good women get passed on.

It's like a lottery and the possible rewards are no longer worth the possible punishments.

There is also the problem that even though you may not think about divorce and destroying your husband, the real problem is that you CAN. You can absolutely take the children and ruin your husband and there is nothing he can do about it.

Standard_Nebula · 2019-01-11T08:55:37+00:00

Yeah, now clone yourself to be the majority and there would be no MGTOW. A

eduardkoopman · 2019-01-11T11:28:11+00:00

I see you say ALL women are gold diggers, narcissists, riding the carousel, etc.

You have a bit of mis intrepretation, here. I think.

It's NOT that ALL women behave like that (gold diggers, narcissists, riding the carousel, etc.). It's that the mayority of women are nowadays that, in their behaviour. Especially women in their younger fertile years.

What is meant with ALL. It's that ALL women have in them the biological tendency to be: hypergamous (trade up to better deal), cheat with a stong genetic male when in the fertile days of the month (pair bond with a good beta-bucks provider men, and just fuck/sex only with strong genetic males out of lust and wanting of there genes especially at the peak days of the monthly cycle); gynocentric (herd mentality of women (and their won children) first, and the rest can just go fuck off if not an usefull utility) , solipsistic approach (I'm like this, so others are like this as well. Relate mostly everything to ones own effect/consequences and behave accordingly, instead of takeing a bigger look at how it effects society and other people), etc.

Above tendency's. Due to the lack off current restraint (by society, structure, religion, etc.) will come out most often in women. Sometimes alot, and for many years. for soem, occassionally. But most often, you will have to encounter these things as a man.

Likewise, to add an example from men. ALL man have in them the biological tendency to be: spreading seed (cheat). This will also happen alot, if men don't control it, or are not punished for it (while they are now, especially in the cntext of marriage where he will lose his possesions, future earnings and contact with childen possibly.

And that's why you mgtow, but what if you met a woman that did really want to build a life and a family with just you and didn't believe divorce was ever an acceptable option.

It's uncommon at this moment in time to find a young-ish women that wants (and is likely skilled (and controlled) enough to do so): to build a life and a family with just 1 man and doesn't see divorce as an acceptable option if she changes her mind.
That is the reality one has to deal with.
Then there are 2 options for traditional man:
1. Go look for nedles in the haystack. And probably get burned many times in the process, and possibly fall for a pretender (whom will take his children away from him, as well as his possessions and future earnings).

Go MGTOW. And wait untill the times/situation changes. Then maybe opt back into the relationship market.

rooster-one4 · 2019-01-11T15:15:34+00:00

I spent 24 years in the Army, so that's a great example. 2 guys, 1 a friend and one a soldier, they're still married 20 years later to the same woman. 2 guys out of hundreds that have had to go through divorces, cheating, and much much worse. I've had friends kill themselves because their wife left the country with his kids for instance, and he never got to see them again...all because we were deployed and he wasn't doing enough :)

So, what I'm saying is the Army was a great example that a man has less than a 1% chance of finding a woman that is loyal and is a true partner. It's statistically insignificant.

One issue is how guys are raised to worship a woman, and a woman is raised to be a perpetual little girl that is supposed to be a princess and sat on a high thrown...you can't breed this out of men, they have to be beaten with the whip of reality to get to understand unfortunately.

ikhwan_arif · 2019-01-11T15:52:49+00:00

When we say all women are like that, we mean that women have the potentiality to be like that."Like That" refers to Hypergamy mostly, mainly, but other things as well, such as Hypoagency, Gynocentrism, etcetera.Are there exceptions? Sure. But that number is small compare to the very vast majority of typical female dysfunction that we see, not only in America or the UK or the West but the same behavior manifesting in the Middle East, the Far East and the South East.

Old religions like the Abrahamaic Faiths as well as Confucianism, curbed female and male nature so that there would be a fair and just opportunity for both men and women to build a family.All of that is gone now. The laws are misandric towards men.And because of that, at this point in time, it makes no sense whatsoever for any man, from any culture, to be married with any woman of in any culture until the laws are fixed. This is pretty much my opinion. Some do gamble on the risk, to each his own.

However, if we take your example, just because right now at this moment, you are not "like that" doesn't mean that you won't cheat on your husband in the future, OR divorce him because you somehow felt bored. It may happen, it may not happen but you suffer no loss rather gain from this while your husband will carry the weight of a loaded gun pointed to his head for the rest of his life.

For me, I don't want to live like that, not a with a gun pointed at my head.

writefromwork · 2019-01-11T14:23:36+00:00

If you are happily married why would you care what MGTOW thinks about your type of marriage? Many have been burned by marriage and have no intention of gambling twice. Simply put MGTOW is all about a man putting his own well being and self interests first. Women can look after themselves.

Senip69 · 2019-01-12T05:37:05+00:00

Ok so my first reaction is this reads like someone sat down and tried to invent the perfect wife so they could then say “see I’m everything you want so why aren’t you happy”

Perhaps I’m too jaded from dealing with women who are compulsive liars but my first impressions are usually pretty close to the mark..... so let me ask this- if you agree with what mgtow say about the state of society and women why are you here displaying your feathers?

justanotherwanker45 · 2019-01-11T10:47:55+00:00

This Sub is a MAN ONLY SPACE. GTFO!!

Title	Interested to read your thoughts and perspective on my situation
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Date	January 11, 2019 7:47 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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