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Study is not greatly designed, to draw much irl consequences from. flaws in the study design, imo: 1. it doesn't track irl behavior. it showed women a picture, with textual assigned personality traits to a man. This assumes, that women would also irl be able to assess these personality traits of a man over "short" time, in the way he talks/acts. I think most women don't. They may percieve the low0ish self-esteem overcompensating dude, as confident. They may percieve the fake acted generousity of…
/r/BlackPillScience16/12/23 02:17 PM
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mirin the crypto portfolio
/r/BlackPillScience28/03/22 10:17 PM
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here you can check, what the phi mask model looks like. http://www.femininebeauty.info/stephen-marquardt-phi-mask-application
/r/BlackPillScience20/10/21 06:50 PM
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ver high iq PirateAngle. Thanks or the reply, doing the work of reading it, and making it clear.
/r/BlackPillScience19/10/21 11:24 PM
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I'm a dude. My experience, when somone is in a giga hurry it usually gets met with negativity
/r/seduction19/10/21 09:07 PM
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thanks. insightfull. I never knew this.
/r/BlackPillScience03/10/21 09:12 PM
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Maybe you can read the study yourself:? http://facelab.org/bcjones/Teaching/files/Feingold_1988.pdf Method:references to American studies of romantic couples or same-sex friends indexed between 1970 and mid-1987. Reference lists from all retrieved studies and attractiveness reviews were examined for additional citations.The search yielded 18 studies, employing 36 independent samples of dyads (N = 1,644 dyads), in which one or more of the effect sizes reviewed here had been reported. Not to make …
/r/BlackPillScience06/08/21 12:15 AM
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Interesting. I’m definitely curious about the sample size and the variety of the groups with such low r’s. It's a meta-analysis of Seventeen studies (of similarity in physical attractiveness between members of romantic couples and/or pairs of same-sex friend). to quote sample size: "For romantic couples, reliabilities of the attractiveness ratings were available for 10 of the 15 studies and for 19 of the 27 sampies. Based on the 19 samples, the weighted average of the mean interjudge coefficient…
/r/BlackPillScience05/08/21 04:22 PM
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Sorry but I’m running into a paywall. I luckily don't have that. I both get the abstract, and the full paper Is this just saying that men tend to cluster in groups where they are physically similar (shared physical hobbies) No, it doesn't say they "cluster" around shared physical hobbies. It tested, and it says; men "cluster" around men that are equaly attractive looking. and women have more variance (shared social hobbies)? It said, that. Women DON'T "cluster" around women that are equaly attra…
/r/BlackPillScience05/08/21 01:03 PM
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For pairs of friends, variations among correlations .... the matching effect was obtained only with men. r = 0.39 for men. And was 0.00 for women. Meaning, among male friends there was correlation between their level of attractiveness. BUT, among female friends there was found no correlation between their level of attractiveness.
/r/BlackPillScience05/08/21 01:08 AM
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The top 20% prefer short term relationships since they have the pick of the litter We have to add though. That compared to average (men); there preference for short term relationships is higher, but it's not that much higher as one would think. only 6% To quote: "self-reported mate value accounts for roughly 6% of variance in men’s sociosexual orientation. The meta-analysis provides evidence that men’s self-perceived mate value positively predicts their tendency to engage in short-term mating, b…
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/21 12:53 AM
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That in high stress times they would be looking to fuck as many women as possible because they might all be dead soon but instead to find a stable one, i.e. it's survivor Syfy romance basically. There is also something to be said for, when in harder times. To stik around as a man: and protect, feed your offspring with your survival skills. makeing sure your offspring grows up well, healthy and able.
/r/BlackPillScience02/08/21 12:39 AM
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I don't even know what p means. I would guestimate r is with controlling for factors (trying to) and p is without controlling for (other) factors?
/r/BlackPillScience01/08/21 05:32 PM
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Your comment sounds very high iq. So much high iq, that I have no idea what it even means. Always happy to learn what such a thing means.
/r/BlackPillScience01/08/21 03:10 AM
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"Fear of being single only negatively predicted the importance of physical*/social attractiveness, whereas it* positively predicted the importance of stability and family commitment*."* Concerning Covid:"people with greater COVID-19 concern perceived an increase in the importance of stability*, family* commitment*, and* physical*/social attractiveness"* ​ I gotta say, the r. values are rather low. So it's "just" a small change.
/r/BlackPillScience31/07/21 04:28 PM
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Interesting.
/r/BlackPillScience27/06/21 10:11 PM
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I think the delay might be due to... their brain processing... whether it makes sense to accept the bad deal in exchange for more time spent around an attractive person of the opposite gender. A quick pros and cons analysis. could be a reason. sounds logical.
/r/BlackPillScience27/06/21 12:18 AM
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in making deals, doing business, doing sales, doing exchanges, making offers. this study investgated
/r/BlackPillScience26/06/21 01:01 PM
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To translate above study in simpleton terms. 1. It tested in making deals, agreements, offers, IF it mattered how good looking that other person was. And how much it mattered. 2. Offers (like for example: "do you want to trade this ($100 worth) watch for your ($100 worth) purse?"). In general, offers from attractive face people were MORE OFTEN accepted. Kinda confirms, that in sales job hirings the are quit looks focussed also. 3. Unfair offers fro good looking dudes, basically shitty offers (li…
/r/BlackPillScience26/06/21 01:00 PM
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"Behavioral data (Acceptance Ratio and Response time) revealed that, more offers were accepted from attractive-face conditions; subjects typically responded quicker to unfair offers from unattractive proposers as compared with slower to unfair offers from attractive proposers. " ​ "More specifically, unfair offers generated larger FRN and smaller P300 than fair ones in the unattractive-face condition. Findings suggest that, although females tend to possess less salient evaluation of male’s facia…
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/21 01:56 PM
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The individual as in, we are all different. That all women and all men are not the same and you can’t generalize because we are all individually different. Including the categories you just mentioned. To add. By this line of reasoning, all human behavior studies can be deleted than. Because in those studies, they do categorise, and they do try to generalize when finding common patterns. All these studies can be deemed nonsense, because we are all different.
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/21 12:30 AM
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Human behaviors is an interesting subject matter, when researched by scientists.
/r/BlackPillScience23/06/21 11:58 PM
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Thanks for the added info. I did not read so far, as to the R value. I can't help it, when researchers write texts like: "a significant association" Which sounds higher than a r of 0.15. of it's true that the r was, is 0.15 A 0.15 R is quit low. l agree. ​ I don't like your tone in: "Do yourself a favor, write a small script and look at ..". Assuming I don't know r=0.15 is small correlation, etc.... Just point it out, is enough.
/r/BlackPillScience22/06/21 12:21 AM
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Womens preference for how masculine male of a face they prefer, remained similar wether they feared Covid or not. For men, Though. Covid fear, or no Covid fear. Showed something, wether they liked feminine female faces more or if they laiked more masculine female faces. The results: * "preference for female feminine faces was negatively associated with concern for contracting COVID-19". aka dudes concerned about getting Covid want more masculine face women. * "preference for female feminine face…
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 08:46 PM
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In other words, what counts as physically attractive may be in large part culturally relative. That's what they researched in this study, for the factor Dhymorpism. Aka men on the masculinity scale; and women on the feminity looks scale. They tested here for that factor. IF it's culturally the same in most places. because most studies in past, were racially and culturally very limted. Hence they tested in THIS study: "Here, we assess whether self-rated attractiveness and self-rated health predic…
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:33 PM
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I assume selife experiences, such as online matches. makes one alter their self rated attractiveness higher when getting alot of matches and good feedbacks.
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:29 PM
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thank U
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:28 PM
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Basically the hotter you think you are, the hotter you want your partner to be A more masculine man, is not perse a hotter or more attractive man. Masculinity factor, is "just" 1 of of the main factors, but found not be the top factor of these main factors. Main facors are: Averageness, Neotony, Symmentry, Proportionality, and Dhymorphism.
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:28 PM
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This study did not say that. They are more likely to romantically engage with less masculine looking men. But a less masculine men, is not perse less attractive in itself. Since the follow factors are generally more important for a man his attractiveness: Averageness, Neotony and Symmetry.
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:25 PM
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This particular study did actually not say, or test, what you mentioned above.
/r/BlackPillScience21/06/21 07:22 PM
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*self rated attractiveness: "men and women who rated themselves as more physically attractive reported stronger preferences for exaggerated sex-typical characteristics in other-sex faces." * Health: "country health/development moderated the effect of men’s self-rated attractiveness on femininity preferences, such that men from countries with high health/development showed a positive association between self-rated attractiveness and femininity preference, while men from countries with low health/…
/r/BlackPillScience19/06/21 10:49 PM
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To add, about personality. Most RedPillers believe attractiveness personality to be: being disagreeable, being a bit of a**h***, being aloof/cold, being dominant, being aplha (whatever that means, being selfish, being stern and serious. Whil this study showed that positive correlation to be on opposite of redPill factors. Where being personable was labbaled with this as: "fun/exciting,” “responsive,” “dependable/trustworthy,” “friendly/nice”. Kinda the bluepilled definition of personality. I agr…
/r/BlackPillScience14/06/21 01:52 PM
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Women select partners kinda same-ish as men. They started out testing this hypothosis of: Men like good looking women; and women like moneymaxxed and high status men. Their conclusion of above hypothosis: "results showed that participants were more romantically interested in potential partners if they were viewed as attractive and good potential earners, and these associations were not moderated by gender. " Basically, women like good looking and good potential earners men. And men like good loo…
/r/BlackPillScience14/06/21 12:23 PM
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I'm doing MMA 1 time per week, so I get muh share of fighting without anger. Still high inhib though, it's a personality trait.
/r/BlackPillScience22/05/21 06:15 PM
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If/when the guy is attractive.
/r/BlackPillScience19/05/21 03:31 PM
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wtf.
/r/BlackPillScience19/05/21 03:31 PM
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Damn that sounds like me. The high inhibition, is the only aspect of the 3 that annoyes me. I wished I was alot lower in inhibition
/r/BlackPillScience12/05/21 12:50 AM
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I respect, how you and above commenters,. Took the effort to check the method, for validity. Doing god's work.
/r/BlackPillScience12/05/21 12:45 AM
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The Red Pill school of thought is to invest as little time as possible to appear less available to a woman, in hopes of increasing her desire for him (“women want what they can’t have” concept). My opinion. That only may help, IF a woman is already significantly interested in you. But than, you would not have needed that (to appear less available) anyways, so what's the point. It's generally bad, to overly available and persuing. I think, when it comes to trying to make a woman think of you more…
/r/BlackPillScience09/05/21 12:38 AM
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But then if the man attractive she’ll think he spent more time on her than he actually did Yes. Why the "But then"? You think it's a bad thing, if a woman thinks a man spent/invested more time in her? Let's set up a thought experiment. Example case: 2 identical men equally attractive in EVERY way possible. Both are in a dating process with woman X. Mr.lesstime and Mr.moretime. Mr.lesstime spent 6-hours time with her so far. Mr.moretime spent 12-hours time with her so far. Whom of the 2, would sh…
/r/BlackPillScience08/05/21 08:19 PM
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Women, time perception, and the attractiveness of the man "The more women perceive men in a date as physically attractive, the longer they estimate the duration of the meeting." So, when the man is attractive looking, women think the time they spend together IS LONGER than it really was. Why? In the study, the hypothosis is: "As women value highly other features besides physical attractiveness, ..... they will allocate more cognitive resources to process more information of an attractive men – o…
/r/BlackPillScience08/05/21 04:05 PM
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behavior alone, on itself, is and can be attractive/unattractive. It's not a matter, or discusssion, imo, if that is the case. THE FACTOR OF MATTER, is though; How MUCH does it effect TOTAL OVERALL ATRACTIVENESS. For example. A woman wearing red color is more attractive because of that on averega. so that's a given. BUT ALSO. How much will that factor influence her total attractiveness? And is that factor big enough of a factor on the total, to consider and focus on alot? That's kinda the discus…
/r/BlackPillScience09/04/21 11:01 AM
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Thanks.
/r/BlackPillScience07/04/21 06:18 PM
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Still, it's a good study to share, imo. Even though peoples from different times. Even from those times, it shows looks payed a very significant role. Also, you gotta know. It measures reproductive success. But not really realtionships, mating, etc. success. And most men, wanted and have stopped after a couple of kids. So EVEN, if a good looking male, has options from women to have100 kids, he just don't wants to. And he stops after 2 kids, and stays with his woman and rejcects all other offers.…
/r/BlackPillScience07/04/21 05:43 PM
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OP implies the authors are saying: 2. Attractiveness and masculinity are not associated with mating success. OP is 100% incorrect, or lying. Hopefully he will come clarify. I dunno, if OP was implying that. I actually didn't read that. BUT, good that you state it, because it can be a point one may assume reading quickly. It's true, that the study DOESN'T say that there is no correlation between Attractiveness & mating success; and masculinity & mating success. It says that T levels don't correla…
/r/BlackPillScience07/04/21 05:33 PM
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No they should realize that behavior matters. A great deal. This is true. Behavior. Or better said, EFFORT matters when you don't have a 100% rejection rate. hence the study says bascially. A high T man is not perse more attractive to women, but they are putting in more "courtship effort". For example. 2 men of qual attractiveness exist, mr. HT (high testosterone) and mr. LT (low testosterone). Both men, 2% of women find them attractive nough eand want to have sex with them. mr. LT meets and cha…
/r/BlackPillScience07/04/21 05:27 PM
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The Foster care system, ending at 18 abruptly. Is BAD and is disgracefull. It should have a transition period from 18 to like 21. Where in that period there is providings of basic necesseties, and working towards a situation of that young adult having a place to stay and a means of money to survive. All the costs for that, they should force to get from the parents. As much as possible. So it's not to much of a financial burden on society.
/r/MGTOW11/02/21 12:25 PM
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New goal(s) = Life fuel. Having "arrived", is a way to lose that life fuel. It's a skill to develop. Setting new goals. And aiming 4 them
/r/MGTOW01/01/21 03:25 AM
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need to be over 18 I think to watch it. because they discuss penis size interaction with height also in that video. So for that, ot got 18+ tag
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 05:53 PM
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Height as an asset. matters 6.1%* Whereas shortness matters borderline 100%, it almost feels like. *source at 6:10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6dTdx1qxs&ab_channel=ANUTV
/r/BlackPillScience30/12/20 05:47 PM
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I must say. A lack of options, is the best way to stay loyal. And to put in more effort to keep a relationship good.
/r/BlackPillScience23/12/20 11:14 PM
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"Under Ontario law, an unmarried couple are considered common-law spouses. if they have cohabited — lived together in a conjugal relationship — continuously for at least three years. But that doesn’t necessarily mean living in the same home, the court found." WTF??? What is next? If you look for 10 sendons at a woman, you are considered common-law spouses. I would never vote again in my life, for a political party that caused and/or implemented or agreed with this law.
/r/MGTOW11/09/20 02:06 PM
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Truth. You haven't even seen how men of short height regularly get ridiculed by women also. Not even funny anymore.
/r/MGTOW07/09/20 12:55 PM
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Online dating is extremely easy for women, if they are looking for uncommited sex. Online dating is very hard for men, if he is looking for uncommited sex. Online dating is moderately difficult for women, if they are looking for a commited relationship with a man around their own level or slightly above it. And very hard, if she wnats commitment from a man that is alot above her overall. Online dating is still hard for men, if he is looking for a commited relationship with a woman somewhere arou…
/r/MGTOW02/09/20 06:20 PM
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I've never went on a restaurant-dinner date. Always drinks, or something else. Defenately would not do that, for a first date. I always reserved that, onlt for women I already had some sort of relationship with. It's to expensive. To much effort for a first date. You don't even know each other. Lunch I might have done, but that's kinda same as a Coffee meetup to me.
/r/MGTOW02/09/20 06:03 PM
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You are not an asshole. Your friend is causing the trouble himself. Because your friend should not start hitting a man, when that man is merely/mostly just defending himself. Your friend is imposing his "believe" with fists onto other men, the beleive being "never hit a woman". Whil alot of other people/men beleive in the concept of "it's accpetable to hit a woman out of self-defense".
/r/MGTOW05/08/20 11:40 AM
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This was before the birt control pill (1960), you gotta remember. Stuff was done, sexually. But had to be much more carefull with actual sex, due to no birth control pill
/r/MGTOW31/07/20 06:17 PM
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Great comment. She basically says: she has no time for the new man she is looking for, nor will she make time for him, nor will she care about him or his wants, and he will be on the bottom on the priority list. But underneath that, she likely has a whole list of things he needs to provide or give or possess. What a great sales pitch.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 04:46 PM
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Fakeup, is a way that most women fruad their looks alot. I have to say, that JayLopez. She really done alot of effort in life, to stay as good looking as she can. Which I admire that she put in so much effort. Most women at 50-60; look (even) much much worse then her. Luckily for us men. With effort, we can skin age slower. I never knew this, but I read we men with effort can keep much younger looking skin then women because we programmed to age slower in skin, ALOT slower (2x, 3x slower; depand…
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 07:03 AM
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Would anyone still dare to give a 1-star rating, when they dislikle the food alot? Or would that 1 star rating be discriminating hate-speech.
/r/MGTOW18/07/20 06:46 AM
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Nope, never have. I'm not a researcher. I work in finance/legal. Can you have an asnwer to what I asked? Or did you want to point out that my question was/is stupid?
/r/BlackPillScience16/07/20 11:40 AM
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They not actually sure. 2d:4d says anything????? Quote: " The low 2nd to 4th digit ratio (2D:4D) is thought to reflect higher prenatal exposure to testosterone and may be associated with higher testosterone levels in adulthood and higher reproductive success in males.
/r/BlackPillScience14/07/20 06:52 PM
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If a dude wants to date, still. Why the hell would you take a woman to a restaurant? I wouldn't do that, I didn't even do that in my more "blue pilled" days. A drink, or some activity, or etc.. But dinners at restaurants, I have only ever done that with women I had an actual (sexual) relationship with. That's a decent rule to keep imo, if a man still wants to be/date/etc. with women.
/r/MGTOW28/06/20 07:14 PM
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I thought only: extraversion and low in teuroticism, was the 3 aspects of the BIG 5 personality traits, that proven correlation with attractiveness. And that Agreeableness, and openness, and consietiousness showed no correlation?
/r/BlackPillScience25/06/20 01:07 PM
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Cool to hear the company isn't against you and fucked up totally
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 12:26 PM
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Any advice on what I should do? Self respect. And not accepting, when getting treated badly and unfairly. Are important things. So I would leave asap. If you have enough f* You money you can quit straight up. If you need tha momeny, wait untill you found another job.
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 05:05 PM
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Relationship and job prospects are nil, I also always thought. Such a woman would fuck up her future prospects for long term relationships, a family, or marriage if she wants that. But then I somehow came a cross most famous pornstar from my youth time, that did all horrible shit that should make her very undesirable, besides looking hidous also now. WTF? she got a husband, that BetaBuxxes for her. And he chose her as the mother of his child. WTF??? I gues the old concept of repuation loss, does…
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 07:34 PM
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True that. They posted a pic on how Roger Moore looked bad at 60-something year old. So I showed that he looked insanely well/good well into his 40's; which is rare and great done by him. And I got banned with a ragefull comment. Roger Moore 1 of my favourite actors ever, liked his great role in the TV Show "The Saint".
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:58 PM
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It's a legit analyse. She will likely just waiste the money, becasue of believeing money will come easy to her (like it does now). And then she will start a period of her life with limited money, if she can't find or isn't willing to settle for a BetaBuxx. With current income she will likely feel to comfortable to push herself into learning a more durable skill, in the mean time as well. I just dislike from time to time, how hard work and starting own business(es) is and can be in life. Limited …
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 04:23 PM
4

They were pretty crazy over there. I got banned there, just for being a dude. While in essence I agree, that most men don't age like fine wine (past mid 30's) but more often like milk. Due to plenty men getting fat, wrinkled, ugly blad, etc... Often due to lack of care of their appearance and health and weight.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 02:34 PM
61

I kinda agree. If I could make 100.000 per month as a dude shaking my butt in front of a camera for like 2 hours per day. I would deffo consider it, for some time. Because busting my balls at my job, I make way way way way less. And it's hard work.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 01:51 PM
6

Making an innocent man/person pay, for things someone(s) else done to you. Crazy.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 01:40 PM
9

She sounds legit crazy
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 01:36 PM
2

I read one of the stories. "The love I'll never know. With unsparing honesty, one woman lays bare her regret at never having children". The story is BRUTALLY painfull. I'm in my 30's, and am feeling more like I would like to have at least 1 kid in the future. Luckily my fertility window is not like women. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1383689/With-unsparing-honesty-woman-lays-bare-regret-having-children.html
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 03:44 PM
3

If he was comfortable in paying a woman to stay with him. He could buy a woman, that is better looking then him and much younger then him. Not someone looksmatched and same aged. This dude need to savage with this situation, she is turning it into a warzone/negotiation, and she is playing very aggressive and hardball. ​ LOL @ the argument, that because she WAS in the past hotter then him, he should pay to price for her asif. Like a car seller, asking me to pay NEW price for a 10 year old Mercede…
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 05:39 AM
8

Although a minor point to add. When consuming that product for free, someone is making some money from you wtahcing it (add revenue, your data, or stuff like that). In that sense you don't pay out of pocket, but you do add some money to someone. Probably I explain it shit, but a view/viewer (of free content) still represenets some value/money.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 07:15 PM
20

The word choice is always so saying. Often words like: "dating"; "were having sex"; "had a sexual relationship"; "partner";etc..Then when it's a dude, they use the correct words like: "raped'; "mollested"; "pedo"; etc.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 07:10 PM
10

She's a hussler, and bad that she ghosted on someone that helped her out. She saw/sees you as a simp to get free stuff from. It's actually stealing. I always dislike things, where there is no balance, no give and take, putting 100 in and getting zero or -100 back. screw that
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 07:06 PM
1

I have to agree, I call BS also on 1 aspect. I can't compute that result. the brown hair - blue eyes I get (dark hair + blue eyes = massive halo for most guys) What I don't get * A very Narrow face? While narrow face, looks like long face often. Which is not great at all. PLus can't have a great jawline with narrow face. If you looks at current highest payed male model. Sean O'Pry. Not narrow face at all, more like wide face almost. I understand lean face, as in, not fat/low fat. Maybe narrow go…
/r/BlackPillScience23/05/20 03:50 PM
1

Usually, lack of funding/money. I assume. So the scientist would like to do it properly, by also traching if behavior matches self reported answer. But that takes alot of time, and time is money (salaries reseachers, etc..), so they need to skipp the behavior part due to lack of funding/money and/or time. But doing a study (imo) half assed like that, the researchers still need to put our papers and articles, so to present what they have done and make a name for themelfes for future carreer/oppro…
/r/BlackPillScience23/05/20 03:20 PM
1

I just checked it, how the data was collected. It was a self report questionaire. So people had to give it a number, on how important they found a certain factor. This is in my opinion highly un-reliable predictor of behavior. This study did not trach action/behavior. Many people, and especially women (I read in a study once, that tested both self-report how important they found something and what their action showed), are very bad at self reporting what they act on. ​ Read under 2.2 . The Metho…
/r/BlackPillScience19/05/20 05:56 PM
2

Funny , how she wanted "his" money to buy herself a new home. She sounds so lazy and unmotivated, for that. Come on girl! You can earn those millions yourself, don't be lazy and unmotivated!
/r/MGTOW08/05/20 01:57 PM
2

She has no humor. And serious personal questions imo don't belong in a text chat, with someone you never met before or don't know well. That's for face-to-face convo.
/r/MGTOW05/05/20 01:30 PM
3

It's just a game, for her. That's a morally broken woman.
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 01:35 PM
5

Often it feels. Men/a man, only recieves appriciation when being a workhorse and adding value that way. Otherwise, just easily treated as nearly worthless.
/r/MGTOW25/04/20 01:33 PM
3

This, is the only way the laws might ever change a bit. When it starts hurting, females. When, alot of men get alimony. The MRA have been fighting for decades, and failing, to get better treatment for men after divorces.
/r/MGTOW20/04/20 08:28 PM
0

She is not attracted to a dude, when he has to pay up.
/r/MGTOW16/04/20 09:03 PM
1

LOL. Is she trying to beat this woman, in have stupid dating criteria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
/r/MGTOW14/04/20 07:33 AM
4

"You dont know the sacrifices the husband made for her to excel in her career. The sleepless nights and holding down the home front. You can't put a value on that." Best Twitter reply-comment. the same claims, made. About that wife of that Bezos Amazon man. Or wifes of athletes.
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 11:10 PM
1

The only way. Laws will ever change. Is when it affects women badly. It shows, whose opinion or wellfare is cocenred most for in society!
/r/MGTOW07/04/20 09:38 PM
5

Who's the real, the better, the higher man? The man who wants and has sex with women. The man who doesn/t want and/or doesn't have sex with women. Neither. It's a silly question. But that is basically what the discussion is that the pua dude is starting. In my opion. It's point 3. Because I see "manhood" more based on other things.
/r/MGTOW02/04/20 09:17 AM
-2

cool for looking up the video. no proof though, that the friend was good looking dentist. might as well have been an ugly .....
/r/MGTOW31/03/20 10:19 PM
1

I dunno what he said after that. Obvioulsy the sentence, was cut to make it funny like this. Probably he said something like: american people are tired of women earning 80 cent / dollar. Or can't afford to study or something else like that.
/r/MGTOW30/03/20 05:32 AM
2

Not all socialist countries ended like Venezuela, etc.. The government in countries with a blooming/good economy, can generate enough tax-income to tax the (mayority male) workers like 40%-50%, and these workers still having enough money to survive life and be fooled into believing that's okay. So, that the government can give this money to (besides the genuine weak and once in need0); to single moms and welfare for the laizy (women more often recieve wellfare), etc.. Like it happens here in Eur…
/r/MGTOW29/03/20 01:46 PM
7

I and he knows. Taxing the shit out of people with good salaries, and having carreers. Aka, mostly men between the age of 25 - 65. He doesn't mind, not does his voter base. Because they don't mind taxing these men so much that they have little money left over even though they earn alot (before taxation). I life, in the Netherlands. We have a type of system he aims for. Taxation in income is here, maximum 52%. Middle class income: overall the net monthly income of a person earning €22.000 annuall…
/r/MGTOW29/03/20 01:29 PM
1

A well trained amataur, is how I asses that man his level if fighting skill. Maybe I did him sthort a bit, and should say he his higher level. In reality though imo. A good male fight, would knock any woman out in the first round already. By plain and simple overpowering. Just take the blows/punches women give, and trade them 1-for-1. You should come out winner pretty soon, and get her knocked out.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 10:08 PM
2

Her technique, imo. was superior to that man. Was she a man, with the same kind of power as that dude. She would had won, easily. I think. She didn't went into a rage or loss of self control in that fight imo. She went in with heart. Like some fighters do, when they can't win in a technical/reserved kind of way, like she noticed the first round. They go, punch, for punch. Street fighting style. It can sometimes turn a match around. And only fighters with a real fighter haert, dare to do that. sh…
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 12:38 PM
7

use the same reasons, just switch the genders. She provided all of the main downsides/reasons, for a man not to date a woman with a child. It's legit reasons.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 08:34 AM
3

I agree. She is by far the best female fighter ever. She fought with technique, and has the haeart of a fighter. Still lost, big time. It's not her fault. She probably trained her balls off. As a woman you can just never become as good as a man. A brutal pill, they need to accept, or learn the hard way.
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 07:07 AM
1

I The best female fighter that ever existed in history (way better then any female fighter now, Roussay or whoever). Lucia Rijker. She once fought a amateur male fighter. She lost by a brutal KO in the 2nd round. She had superior skill in fighting. But the lack of power. is what makes the diference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2QgDWSfQik
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 07:00 AM
5

CHILD SUPPORT? This is obviously not Child support. $30.000 month or $11000 per month; is not child support. At most, raising a child in a comfortable invironment, costs $1000 / month. Child support IS NOT child support anymore. It should not be called child support. This man looks bad in the eyes of people, if it states somewhere that he didn't pay his child support. Because people have the picture then, of his child living in poverty because dad is a lazy selfish bastard. Rediculous abuse. Of …
/r/MGTOW27/03/20 06:40 AM
1

Government, aka society. Cathers to: women and children first. Because the lives of women and children, is seen as most/more valuable. Men lives are more dispossable.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 07:42 PM
7

If he shorted the stock market. He would had made real bank.
/r/MGTOW20/03/20 07:40 PM
1

How was the study done? Like method? Was it just a questionnaire?? The sample data, was only marriages people. Which imo can also skew outcome. Because people that marry, is a specific group. And excludes other type of relationships. I only found on method so far: "For 27 countries, demographic data on actual age at marriage provided a validity check on questionnaire data"
/r/BlackPillScience18/03/20 11:17 PM
3

Great translation. That's also what I saw. One more thing I saw/read: "Was always attracted to the badboys" = I'm going to take out all the anger I have for the mistreatments of mr. Badboy on you. Even though you didn't do them. (aka, getting punished for something you didn't do)
/r/MGTOW16/03/20 06:11 AM
1

This is so long-proven and long-accepted in science that it's a waste of time to even be "performing studies" on it now. I like the concept, of them re-doing studies. So they can test, if the (re-)replicate the same outcomes. So to re-proof, and make the previous studies even more legit.
/r/BlackPillScience13/03/20 06:52 AM
8

Bitches fuckin for: Free Overall, I don't see that happening much. Most guys pay, in one way or another for the women they have sex with. At least that is my observation.
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 04:54 PM
8

This isn't science. It's common sense. Flaud reasoning. "Common sense", needs proof as well.
/r/BlackPillScience12/03/20 04:25 PM
1

Staying umarried back then, as a female. Only possible, if you wanted to remain childless forever.
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 11:23 AM
1

I agree, with your escort statement. From what I know and heard. These kind of people, are actually frequent escort users. Even/Also when thay are married. Marriage. It's not about the sex. But it's for them usually these things: 1. offspring 2. example/looking virtuous for the outside world (and family) 3. status (a hot woman whom he is married to, is a status symbol). If he's single, his rich friends/family/business partners will see him as loser or don't fit in.
/r/MGTOW10/03/20 08:17 AM
20

Can I blame her though? Probably her 1 and only shot in life, to become wealthy/rich. The dude must obiously know, that's the reason, or he must be very low iq. The blue pill BS claims about his personality, is annyoing as always. Trade-off between: his wealth and her looks. his money, and her giving him status (in "higher" places your wife/partner is the ultimate status symbol).
/r/MGTOW08/03/20 02:22 PM
1

Lets have some fun with this. "But who's gonna take care of you when you get old?" A payed nurse. If you can save up the money, that's the safest bet. Money talks. Children (and elderly partner), are not a safe bet. "You're going to miss out when you get old" On what? If need companionship as an older dude, love and behold. Then (due to women getting older), the mere sex/gender-ratio will make it easy for a older man to get a old woman. This being alne at old age, should be more a concern/thing …
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 01:27 AM
1

I have no worries of false accusations because it would easily be disproved. Most likely (statistically speaking), nothing will come of it. So, no need to worry much. At the same time: Guilty, untill obviously clearly proven innocent. That's how it works, more, nowadays.
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 01:19 AM
6

Shes constantly degrading me and my daughter You owe it to you kid, to protect her from bad environment. imo. And if you allow your daughter to be subjected to something that will make her see bad exmples. And might likely crush her self-esteem; you can't be standing passive imo. So, .. I'm at my wits end and I'm probably going to break up with her because of this unless I can find another solution. Reading the shit-show story you wrote down. I can't see any solution. No solutions, when your par…
/r/MGTOW03/03/20 12:35 AM
13

LOL. Tinder stories, are the best.
/r/MGTOW28/02/20 07:21 AM
3

Also. Men should start doing this, at work where they have to work with women also, in USA. Make it just about business/work only, no more attending: * after hours drinks with whole staff; * no more company staff diners attendance; * no more social company outings; * no more "team building"; * etc.
/r/MGTOW28/02/20 07:07 AM
11

They never really existed; in an innate type of way. They only existed, out of necesaity. When having to chose, between poverty/starvation or acting "tradtional/religuous". Then women will chose acting "tradtional/religuous". Whenever there is some prosperaty, tradtional/religuousness is out of the window by females mostly. And it's back to the cc, hypergamy, selection on him being good looking, etc..
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 10:26 AM
10

In my estimation. On "unicorns". Give in the West a: massive economical crisis, poverty as the new norm food scarcity, unsafety, an crumbling government, a virus wiping out many, etc.. And you'll find a world filled with female "unicorns", behaving unicorn like. When scarcity arises, females will behave accomidating towards men in exchange for resources and prtection. When there is abundance, females will not accomidate to men at all. That's in my observation the general rule/observation.
/r/MGTOW26/02/20 10:08 AM
1

the damage she has done to my reputation with these 'deadbeat dad' accusations Towards, whom though did it cause reputation loss?
/r/MGTOW25/02/20 04:43 PM
5

If you don't want to be falsely arrested, don't do crime. If you don't want to be falsely accused of shoplifting, don't steal. If you don't want to be falsely accused of paternity fraud, don't lie. What a bunch of BS. My IQ just dropped by 50% after reading this.
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 10:38 PM
3

looks 20 years younger. damn
/r/MGTOW24/02/20 07:33 AM
27

That would be a brutal one. He should take the paternity test though. The saddest part about these stories are always imo, the father having so little rights to his kids. I mean, who cares about "some" woman, I could get over that. But losing your child, that's brutal.
/r/MGTOW23/02/20 06:45 PM
4

Well done for her. She probably had to do alot to keep looking weell-ish, and refrain from doing things as well. I'm aging also pretty well ish (now mid 30's), but I also do and have to put in effort. So I applaud anyone making the effort
/r/MGTOW23/02/20 06:40 PM
10

LOL @ paying for service (transportation) and being treated like this. I stopped ging to bars and clubs 10 years ago already, because of getting treated like shit as a CUSTOMER. I'm happy to see, alot of bars and clubs went out of business that past 10 years. I would stop using public transport.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 09:58 PM
2

okay. good luck with this situation.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 09:21 PM
2

I will see how this plays out. I had to LOL at this line. For my personal opinon, it's a bit to much of a passive attitude. Since, your life, so you need to give it directions. Sometimes waiting is good, but in this case it is in my standards way to many red flaggs and past any point of return.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 04:39 PM
16

I had the immediate same thought. https://www.insider.com/baby-boomers-are-more-sensitive-than-millennials-large-study-finds-2019-12 " In the United States, for example, "baby boomers may be more narcissistic than other generations because they grew up in a time when the government provided privileges like social security," I know and have knows people from the pre WW2 era. They were much tougher dudes and also more fair and hardened. More pleasant and helfull also. The Boomers born from soon af…
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 04:05 PM
4

The background, Is. Szechenyi Baths/spa in Budapest. Worth a visist, together with Gellert Spa. Absolutely beautifull buildings. 12 years ago it was my first Spa visit ever, and the unlocking of a new spare time hobby/thing to do.
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 03:06 PM
5

She basically, proposes a system where the whole community takes responsibility for raising a born baby/child. Aka, me. Aka, I'm being forced to pay and spend time/effort for the raising of other men (and women) their children. Forced cuckery. I can already see the results; Women making babies with attractive men (whom gets of the hook paying wise), and I/us (average dude) left to pick up the tab. (I know it's already the case to an decent extend, through taxation and wellfare programms for sing…
/r/MGTOW22/02/20 02:58 PM
3

craving = nature. I didn't chose to crave what I want/like.
/r/MGTOW21/02/20 04:46 PM
2

Search for Saturday night live sexual haressment at work
/r/BlackPillScience18/02/20 09:39 PM
2

It's the ultimate power move in that sense. I have never done that, because I just couldn't. I have always been thought, it's loser thing to do. Yet, alot of hyper successful men I know and have hard about from anecdotes, are usually the biggest buyers of this. And there is absolutely nothing loserish about them. Maybe I can do it 1 day to, If I need to and get over the mental blue block. Sure beats chatting up alot of women, getting rejected tons, and having to deal with the nastiness that come…
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 09:36 PM
3

Pratically speaking. It depends alot, if a dude is out there looking: * just for sex; or if a dude is looking for * validation (as in: defining his sexual or "romantic" worth). You'll be surprised, how many dudes are actually more looking for being validated as a valuable sexual/romantic/relationship being. And less about sex. If it's just about sex, then prostitute is cheaper and more time efficient, etc.. But at the same time, a dude can't get validation from a hooker. Now it's easy for me (si…
/r/MGTOW18/02/20 10:19 AM
34

I agree. Especially, because the validation that snapchat chick gives them is fake/false. It's pretended. Like if one buys sex, then at least it's a true exchange. But you can't buy validation.
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 05:12 PM
79

LOL. I'm not 100% sure. But I always got the feeling, that with this "premium snapchat fans" stuff. It was for the dudes more about the personal validation. Like haveing the direct contact with that woman, and paying for her to say or type their name.
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 04:08 PM
8

Doing fun activities, haveing cool toys, haveing extra dispossable cash. That's all good. Deciding to want to devote a couple of years of your freetime and maybe "life", to raising your own child. That's all good also. Sadly, that last option has gotten really risky and potentially very damaging. Because of the state/society, having decided it's okay to; * take away your kids and visitation or custody rights; if the mother decides so or plays games; * financial enslavement or ruin of the father;…
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 04:03 PM
1

WTF. With this "their decision in the next few minutes would be crucial to their survival". What type of shitty relationship is there going on, that a Valentines gift matters much if any..
/r/MGTOW15/02/20 03:53 PM
4

#metoo Love is difficult. With family bounds it can sometimes be the closed to the unconditional love type of thing, one gets. For the rest, it's often pretty fucked up in that regard. "Romantic relationships", are more just negotiations to get ones own needs met. Maybe teenage love of a 14 year old boy with a 14 year old girls, can sometimes be pretty close to "unconditional love" as well. But after years, if becomes negotiations.
/r/MGTOW14/02/20 03:20 PM
3

Vietnam is a good place for business? Or a bad place? Or average place? Asking because of interest if it's an option, to cash everything out here in my Western country. And moveing myself and my money across the world, and buying or starting a business there with that money and earning money there (but then hopefully with better lifestyle and treatment)
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 03:56 PM
1

That guy is to old, to be that naive. Why the hell would old people get married anyways, if not extremely religuous? It really makes even less sense then. I can still semi-understand marriage for gullible young people whom believe in fairytail romance "happily even after" or young people falsely believing "it's better for the kids we are going to create". But when you're old, romance (fairytail) believes should be dead, and there's also no false reason of "for the kids".
/r/MGTOW12/02/20 03:51 PM
1

but also have to feed her lazy ass. I would chose somethng between those 3 things, or multipule: Ultimatum (with an end date) for her to become financially self sufficient; Demand maximum effort from her to get to number 1 Send her out, to life somewhere else
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 06:01 PM
2

Only some Status, among certain groups. Although being in a relationship already does it most often to recieve validation/status from some people.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 05:55 PM
2

she laughed because she thought I meant weed and then asked me if I could grow weed she goes "I'm street smart" she then said we could do that with or without a line of coke Mainy Red Flags. She will crash into The Wall soon, likely. That lifestyle is hard on the body and appearance.
/r/MGTOW11/02/20 05:43 PM
1

We are talking (double) murder here. That's very extreme, in my opinion. To much extreme, in my book.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 02:41 PM
1

True that. And if that type of lifestyle would be to boring for that dude, he could just go start working or starting or buying a (small) local business in a field that het enjoys.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 01:46 PM
1

#metoo. Enough corrupt countries in the world, where you can bribe your way into a false visa/stay and life like a half God (lifestyle wise). Rather that, then this. The best "revenge" is having a blast.
/r/MGTOW09/02/20 10:06 AM
6

Example/Proof #99766; that the legal system is biased (pro female and anti male)
/r/MGTOW31/01/20 07:23 AM
1

I agree. It's a social place/location. Although nowadays people become less social, and more phonescreen starers. So maybe soon, every location becomes a non-social place/location
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 11:47 AM
10

This! Even when paying the settlement, they specifically stated that he doesn't/didn't confess. And that it was consentual sex.
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 07:02 AM
4

"child support". Can the name be changed to: "extra alimony". Because I totally believe in actual child support, as in that the parents are 100% responsible for the financial burden of their children. And the state shoud not fund loser parents, with gving welfare to these parents (with tax money from others (mainly other men, since men are net tax payers))
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 06:51 AM
3

Good share. Sounds logical. It's a sad position to be at, when you don't get any flirt signals or invitation signals from women. As a man.
/r/BlackPillScience30/01/20 06:47 AM
-1

Yes, he can hang with his bro's. But at a social place, like a bar, club, sportcafeteria, social event, etc... It's common, and will happen that strangers also start to talk with you. Obviously, you can just reject those people. It's imo, not worthy of complaining abour, or something to be considered a big annoyance. To me, it feels the same like a woman complaining, that guys come up to her to talk to her when she's at a bar or social event. I can't stand either, those cry messages from women w…
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 05:36 AM
3

disrespect me guys are shit testing me I don’t wanna fight cause I know the consequences I almost went to jail and almost got suspended so what do I do. Sad. that they don't allow you, to stand up for yourself. Can't you just, smack talk back to them or ignore them like the mr. nobody's that they are?
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 08:21 PM
2

subjectively only.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 07:55 PM
2

Having a beer at a social place, like a bar. And then complaining about people going talking to you. Life is tough.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 07:48 PM
5

"good old days syndrome". One last thing that a significant portion of MGTOW men (and TradCon men) need to overcome. In my opinion.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 02:55 PM
3

my first thought also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXC4Ey9ZXEE
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 11:29 AM
1

I rolled laughing on the ground, when I saw that pathetic press conference. Where he appoligized to the whole world, for cheating. Men can be so pathertic some time, that it's hillaruous.That he declared his is innocent about the rape, that's good. But to appolgize to me, the whole world, for cheating on wife. Like, WTF do we/I care. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSamEqtPVao&t=210 ​ But still. Tiger Woods, wins the most pathetic prize, for makeing public appology for cheating. WTF are these gu…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 09:47 AM
25

Having nasty sexual thoughts, with other people then your partner. Is pretty common/normal. The difference. The people that act on it; and the people that restraint themselfes and don't act on it. She's leaning way to much, towards acting on it. People with ood retraint, cut themselfes off in the thought process much ealier.
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 06:44 AM
3

It's 2-fold. 1. yes, it's good for her to wanting to change her lifestyle. And it's good to advice her how to do that. 2. For any guy she wants to marry/etc.. One has to advice to not do it. Because of many red flags.
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 06:33 AM
3

great point. #fuck-Good-Old-Days-Woreshippers
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 05:31 AM
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“Roles for thee and none for me. Just give me money. “ To add. In current times. 80+% of trad con women; are only chosing to be trad con for a number of years or maybe a decade in their lifetime. Most typical trad con women I saw/see: * having fun and [artying and screwing around in teens and early 20's * born again tradcon in mid 20's * marrying a well off man (hopefully before 30) that is well off and often a bit older then them; and having kids. * stay at home, or work very little * divorce t…
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 08:49 PM
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traditional/conservative women are NO DIFFERENT; I think. They are actually worse, then the average woman. Even worse then a feminist, for example. The traditional/conservative women, do stuff that fit right in line with the nacisists, sociopaths, and machivalian type of people. These are the types of women, that go on lifetime alimony after divorcing their man. And taking all he got. And pushing for marriage, and so on. For me. traditional/conservative women = manipulators looking to extract al…
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 08:41 PM
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Great share, of your experience and observations from where you come from
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 08:34 PM
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This. I bet for most it's about female validation. Not about sex.
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 07:27 PM
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Besides, talking about that femaledatingstrategy (FDS) subreddit. A decline in overall discussions and posts about the stuff women do, in the dating-game and relationships. Would be nice. Because, it's commonly known already I assume. Women are hardballers in dating and relationships, and will try to get the best out of it for themselfes. Uncluding screwing you over, bigtime.
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 01:45 PM
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she is legit crazy and/or drunk. She is constantly referring to herself in the 3rd person, that's kinda odd. "jasmine cannot ..." instead of "I cannot ..."
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 08:10 AM
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Lemme know when your 22-year-old daughter gets back from college. And yes, I'm kidding there, too. Going my own way until I turn gray. Funny comment, I had to lol. I'm mid 30's. And I haven't seen it happen to me yet, with females from my past. But then, I'm also totally absent on social media. I do/did get some attention from plenty single moms, in my age group. Luckily I aged very well, and am always guessed as a 20-someting year old guy.
/r/MGTOW21/01/20 07:57 AM
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She asks extremly alot: "man needs to give her children the love of a father". What a massive task, burden, and risk; for a man. Even if a man would be okay to give that to kids that are not his. he takes massive risk: because; - he has zero say over the children; - if she leaves him he will also lose all contact with the kids. So it will be a double loss, and a double wasite of invested time and efforts.
/r/MGTOW18/01/20 03:37 PM
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The story reads, asif she had been 10 years with her boyfriend already. But remember, it's only been a 2 year relationship. It's like, she can't even take a "boring" period of like 3 months, and she already goes apeshit.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 06:59 PM
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As far as comments about money go. He opperates on a different planet then us. he can never spend the money/wealth he has in his lifetime, anyways. So maybe money means little/nothing for him anymore. I would not be able to take the idea, that someone is with me for the money. The psychological damage from knowing that, I think is to high. It's basically a conformation to yourself, you are worthless without the money.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 06:01 PM
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It's rediculous from the male perspective. It's totally great, from the female persepctive when she is a type that scores high on the Dark triad scale, or high on the Traditionalist scale. for example this study result (this is also going to be a mayor bomb I guess, for the guys beleive in "the good old days of traditionalism" and in "the stay at home mom/nuclear family" concept: "Women who date for a free meal and without romantic interest in their dinner partners are more likely to exhibit ‘da…
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 04:59 PM
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What a nice big fat holiday period. If i didn't have to work untill 50, I'll take it. If I'm getting old enough, I'll likely have to work in total for 45-50 years straight, before I have my holiday/pension. Hopefully I'll manage to save up enough, to have to Option to stop earlier then that.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 04:09 PM
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Great comeback.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 04:05 PM
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1 pamflet. Saying it all. ​ Great work, from the one that made it.
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 11:31 AM
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Great work, well done. I would like to point out 1 things, for a wider perspective on most/plenty of men our perspective. And a falsehood, in it. If he was a woman, plenty would had complained how women let themselfes go and get fat/ugly in a relationship and then get good/better looking again when/after he leaves her. And the conotation, how bad it is that woman do that. There is a point to be said about that, it's not so great to dog on a waoman that loses weight after a breakup. If it's a con…
/r/MGTOW17/01/20 09:05 AM
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I was thinking the same. Can't force and shouldn't force,a woman to have sex with you. But in your own bed, I would do whatever I want sexually with myself. If the female in the bed doesn't like it, she can go move herself somewhere else like a bathroom or couch or whatever. Total Sexless relationships. Seems like a horror to me, when you as a healthy male are below the age of 60 or whatever age that sex start not to matter anymore because of hormone drop.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 08:37 PM
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"Only 2. I'm pretty picky" Some time later: .... "17, foursome, fivesome, teachers, bbc, etc..". That's not being picky imo. Not that I mind "degenerousy". It's not good though, to pretend to be very picky/carefull/considerate about these things when one is not. It sends a false message, about ones personality /character.
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 08:09 PM
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She is rejecting a family bond. Because her brother choses a promiscuous lifestyle and free-lifestyle. She doesn't accept his lifestyle choices. She would also not like if he said, how she should life her lifestyle. Why should she care? It's not like she is getting hurt or anything. She choses random females, over her brother. Zero loyalty. She also makes alot of assumptions, that aren't backup up (which is not good): "sexual exploitation and lies"; she doesn't get the concept that it maye be to…
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 06:44 PM
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I don’t even know why military guys even get marry In some way , I can get it a little bit. Because, what is a militairy man putting his life on the line for? I wouldn't put it on the line, for the concept of "a nation" or "society" or something like that. But to protect your own child/baby or somone you "love"; then it's much easier to put your life on the line for something like that. I wouldn't mind killing and fighting attackers/intruders for my own kid(s) to survive; but not for "the nation…
/r/MGTOW12/01/20 06:28 PM
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Being able to sell jarred bathwater for $30/jar. I wish, I could.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 06:22 PM
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Escaped, the BetaBuxx trap. In my last LTR. I was BetaBuxx. After that, I vowed to never BetaBuxx again with 1 exception (a limited period before and after a woman gives bith to my own child. Aka, for the sake of the/my child not for her). In this current times of equality in the West, BetaBuxxing makes no sense. With maybe the only exception if a dude is basically punching way above his league (like a fat bald guy that's a 4/10 in looks; with a woman that's a 8/10 in looks). But then it's obvio…
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 06:07 PM
2

When are men ever going on strike?? I see alot of (white) men, whom are Getting totally mocked in their own country (USA).
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 01:52 PM
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Or another option.The government butts out of people their relationships; and don't force child-support apyments from 1 parent to another parent. But let the 2 private parents, work it out among themselfes. A total waiste of governmental time. Only if there is child neglect. Should the government step in. And take the child into safety. And hunt both parents down for every penny it has cost the governement to do this, untill it's all payed for.
/r/MGTOW10/01/20 01:50 PM
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The current USA draft rules, are 100% sexist against men. Change the rules, and replace all where it says "male" with "human being or person". ​ Any person assigned the sex of male at birth who is between the ages of 18 to 25 is required to register for the draft. Eligible citizens are required to register within 30 days of turning 18, and immigrants must register within 30 days of entering the U.S.
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 07:00 AM
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He said that if i dont get married and have kids, he will cut me off his will. Which is most importnat to that dude? The marriage; or The kids. ​ Usually, biologically speaking. It's about the children (passing on the legacy/genes/etc..). If it's about the kids; and you also like kids. You could suggest the surrogacy route; or some other options. For having kids, one don't need marriage.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 08:43 AM
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I would also guess. In such situation. That the amount of send invitation signals would go up, as well of the amount of women doing the first approach. But I have no proof of that to share, atm.
/r/BlackPillScience08/01/20 07:25 AM
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for people asking, or wanting to ask. What these descripted signals looks like in action. This video I think has a large portion of them, in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBOtj1RmaUE&t=180
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/20 09:39 PM
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Also. #metoo ; I didn't consent.
/r/MGTOW07/01/20 08:06 PM
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EDIT: I've just noticed that I am at BlackPillScience-Sudbreddit, not PurplePillDebate O_o Should hopefully not make a difference, the search for truth is beyond blabla-pills imo.
/r/BlackPillScience07/01/20 05:51 AM
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Giraffe game. LOL. I think it's maybe. tiltling head to the side, causing neck to show. I seen women do that, it's a submissive, flirting and show of trust gesture; I think when they do that.
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 06:41 PM
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I think that most man can very well distinguish obvious signals, but something like eyebrow-lifting is a mannerism that everybody does from time to time, I tried to look up, if I could find research, test about men not being able to get signals/invites from women. It appears, men might not be that bad at it actually, and actually are more easily overestimating an invite then the other way around. An interesting research based piece on this, you can read in the below link. It's an excerpt from a …
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 03:53 PM
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Nope. I think, all it says. That the location can make it more easy or less easy to send soical/interest invitation signals and/or to actually go over and talk to a stranger. At a library ("be quite"), it more difficult to be social with a stranger, then in a noise cafetaria/foodbar. And at a singles bar, it's most easy. And at a feminist we-hate-all-men convention, it's near impossible.
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 03:20 PM
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I think that most man can very well distinguish obvious signals, Could be true. Anything to share on that calim, that proves it?? I said earlier "most men. not good at registering or noticing signals". But i could be totally wrong when I said that opinion (that I got from others actually). Because this I didn't get from a study or anything; but from women bitching about men not chatting them up. But it could actually not be true at all, and just part of the trend that it's cool to bash men for b…
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 03:09 PM
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The problem is that women's approach signals are rather non-existent and not distinguishable from everyday life mannerisms true, for most men. not good at registering or noticing signals. Obviously, it can also be the case that women don't send singals to alot of men; because they don't trigger them (aka, not attractive enough). I am male and I often hair flick and lift my eyebrows but that has nothing to do with mating signals, at least not in my case. I guestimate signals from men ar different…
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 02:14 PM
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This study is also from same researcher and interesting on this subject matter: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/246974326_Nonverbal_courtship_patterns_in_women_Context_and_consequences ​ This one also tried to see, differences in settings/locations. *At a bar setting in 1 hours time: out of the 49 appraoches. 38 were done by men, and 11 were done by women (aka again: 77% by men; and 23% by women) *At a snackbar setting: out of the 8 appraoches. 4 were done by men, and 4 were done by wom…
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 10:25 AM
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https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/semi.1989.76.issue-3-4/semi.1989.76.3-4.205/semi.1989.76.3-4.205.pdf https://www.degruyter.com/view/j/semi.1989.76.issue-3-4/semi.1989.76.3-4.205/semi.1989.76.3-4.205.xml ​ Basic findings. Which is about: Do men really do all the approaching? Do women give invitation signals to men? And the effect of that. Or do men have to apporach blind, and just numbers-game (as in sales) how high of a acceptance do men get, when they approach a woman that sends invitat…
/r/BlackPillScience06/01/20 09:17 AM
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I think it's overall more like this: black women are more "in your face" about what they want and are more aggressive about it. white women are less in your face about it, but more subbtle and manipulative about it (in style). Like pouting, giving the silent treatment, and so on. Aka, plenty the same. just different styles of "communication"
/r/MGTOW05/01/20 07:11 AM
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Replace "Alpha" with "good looking man". And then is seems pretty accurate.
/r/MGTOW04/01/20 07:38 PM
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To add. Such woman, has to let go then of the following criterias they have (which they can't): He needs to look really attractive/hot ("feel chemistry"); He needs to be over 6 feet tall He needs to be younger then 35 ​ And because women have these criteria, they can't help but go with "designer wearing bums". Because these dudes do look hot/attractive and are tall and young. Only untill, when their life is fucked up, or they are way past their prime do they consider dropped these 3 standards.
/r/MGTOW03/01/20 02:37 PM
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What is more disgusting? That women do this? Or, That the law and legal system is setup in such a way, that they can easily do this? Imo, both is fucked up!
/r/MGTOW03/01/20 02:22 PM
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I agree, it's more risky.
/r/BlackPillScience03/01/20 01:57 PM
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I agree womens hypergamy was more in chack at that time. Imo, the main cause for that was not the laws. But the main cause was, that women had like 4 children by the time they were 25, and really were dependant on the man for keeping them and the kids allive. They had so many children back in the days, because birthcontrol pill wasn't there yet. (for example, my mother got married (shotgun marriage) because she accidentially got pregnant and a couple of years later she had 3 kids already) (i bet…
/r/MGTOW02/01/20 04:06 PM
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In the past days there were no bachelor's and everyone was forced to marry. And the associated stigma, with staying a bachelor. In the area i come from, it really had consequences for one position/status in that communtity, and thus money/work and so on also.
/r/MGTOW02/01/20 04:01 PM
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Getting pushed by family, society, church, community; to be married and have children before you are 30. / good old days. Aka, every time has it bad things. Although atm it's extra brutal with the normalisation of man hating.
/r/MGTOW02/01/20 03:10 PM
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Here some "proof" of my opinion that women have almost no Wall when it comes to being able to get random uncommited sex with below average looking men (or mayeb some average looking): -experiment with pig nose woman (bodybuildingforum) https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903&page=1 -or this 80+ year old woman whom has alot of one night stands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jSkgpydlv0&feature=emb_logo https://www.thesun.co.uk/sun-men/8739005/glam-gran-tinder-dates-toyboys-des…
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 11:01 AM
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If passive putting money away. Go to more diversified stock markets (etfs, index, etc..). Private investement imo only make sense, if you have the time and energy and power/control to have some influence and manage it. Beingable to get out, or sell, lso more difficult then with publicly traded stocks. I never done it, so far. It can be a great thing with really good rewards (if you could had bought 10% ownership in Apple with your $100000 at the earlier stages, you would be giga rich now.) The r…
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 10:56 AM
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I see the Wall as such a bit on average. Woman past 25: Hit the Wall of being able to sex and commitment from (younger) men that are very good looking (or famous). Woman past 30: Hit the Wall of being able to fuck very good looking (or famous) men. Woman past 35: Hit the Wall of being able to get a succesfull and decent looking BetaBuxx man (to start family with). Woman past 40: Hit the fertility Wall, no man that wants children wlll consider her. Woman past 40: Hit the Wall, of being able to fi…
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 10:49 AM
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More like: discrimination café. And discrimination on a thing, you have zero control about. What would have happened if they opened a nasty café with: "18% black tax". Everyone would, rightfully so, go apeshit. But in this case when it was 18% man tax, it was considered okay-ish or funny or cool or no-one cared. It's a bad sign, on how men are viewed. And it can easily cause anger by men that start to feel affected, and anger can be savage as fuck. Rightfully so.
/r/MGTOW01/01/20 09:18 AM
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i was wondering the same at first. and i came up with the idea, that it probably is something like: high value man.
/r/MGTOW31/12/19 02:01 PM
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in the same subforum you have a similar topic with Angelina Jolie whilst wearing shit loads of make up Yes, women have an harder time aging, overall. Overall, men age slower/beter (if he doesn't go ugly-bald (or get fat obviously)) then women. I think these 3 are the main reasons 1. men skin ages 2-3 times slower then women (source: https://www.livescience.com/1054-woman-skin-ages-faster.html ) 2. men stay fertile much longer and quality of fertility for men slows down much slower then women. 3.…
/r/MGTOW31/12/19 10:10 AM
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that dude looks like a god/model, in both pictures. I see no wall. in the first one, he looks more boy-ish. And in the 2nd one more masculine. that's the only difference i see.
/r/MGTOW30/12/19 10:12 PM
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"uncompetitive men" Sounds almost close to the insults that are often trown, in the line of MGTOW's are a bunch of: incels, losers, uggo's, etc.
/r/MGTOW30/12/19 10:07 PM
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It doesn't make sense. Only one thing makes sense; a woman nearly always undervalues the worth of her own long term man/partner. Somehow womens attraction for a man, goes down quicker then for men. So even though you are objectively a 7/10. Your wife thinks your are a 4/10. Which makes the co-worker 5/10 in her eyes more attractive then you
/r/MGTOW24/12/19 01:12 PM
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I like this new law though. Bringing it back from 12 to 5 years of alimony. In that sense, Netherlands is one of the few countries where they are reversing the alimony laws to be less unfavourable towards men. The welfare system for single mothers, is still really fucking bad in The Netherlands though. I even know an immigrant family, where the man didn't register the child as his and they life apart. Si that his wife can get all this single mother wellfare. While in reality they basically are a…
/r/MGTOW24/12/19 10:37 AM
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Ruining a boy, and a young man his life. Women and governement (aka mayority of society) don't care about that much if any. It's great self control that this man didn't go apeshit angry yet. I would totally get it though, if he did. He has every reason to be mad. For these type of situations, it's almost sad that it's not accepted anymore that one takes justice/matters into ones own hands.
/r/MGTOW24/12/19 10:29 AM
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it's just inviting the government and lawyers to be a part of your relationship. gold
/r/MGTOW24/12/19 09:03 AM
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Yes. When it becomes an utter failure, we also then have an example to point at.
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 07:31 PM
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it's an interesting experiment to observe, for an outsider.
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 07:40 PM
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This is a legit scary situation for that man.
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 02:04 PM
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Women chip their husband’s dick off and it gets laughs from the audience. This actually happened, I recall. From the programm: "the talk" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_klWFzzgw Here, how they tried to appologise the next day for it, half assed stupid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYkuJXqLDkQ&t=90
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 01:57 PM
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I agree, that one really neaads to consider alot if one wants to take such risk. I would deffo not even take the risk, if: I needed the money/work desperatley; can't find another job easily; it might ruin future carreer. Like, being a student doing part-time work at a MC donalds. I would be willing to take more risks. Then if I was a lawyer working in a firm.
/r/BlackPillScience22/12/19 10:07 AM
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I think it means to say. That men (when on the recieveing end of flirtation) liked it overall more then women liked it (when she was on the recieveing end of flirtation_.
/r/BlackPillScience22/12/19 10:04 AM
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I agree, it's old news. But most research is confirmation on old news. The good part about research, is that it can cut of a debate. Because there are always "blue pilled" people that advocate opposite opinions, and when thee is no research/study thay can claim it's just a difference of opinion. But when there is data/research/study; then one has something to back up and shut off the other.
/r/BlackPillScience22/12/19 10:01 AM
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that type of love and companionship is a male trait, loyalty and humility are exclusive to men thus meaning you will never find that type of care with a woman. I also experienced that, that women are not that much supportive, helpfull, etc.. in a realtionship; as I am and I want them to be. They are to much busy with their own satisfaction often. Whil you (the male partner) is going through a difficult period, and then they are absent in geving helpf/etc.. While I always put my own stuff (as muc…
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 09:57 AM
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I’m a single 37 year old man, with no kids. I still find myself desiring a relationship with a female sometimes, but I think that is mainly because I miss having sex. I don’t ever want to get married, especially in the last few years since finding out about MGTOW. Anyway, I just need to figure out a way to deal with my desire for companionship without getting into a relationship and I will be ok. Damn, is like my own life almost. Same age. Same struggles. I'm 4 years now living a lifestyle in li…
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 11:24 AM
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they were married in the late 60’s, so prior to the whole “Sexual Freedom Movement”. To add a small comment about this statement. Imo, the sexual freedom for women changed around 1960 already; when the birth control hit the market (and instant success) and (young) women could start having sex without the consequence (accidently) of getting pregnant. (Prior to that, there were likely alot of shotgun weddings (my father and mother had one))
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 10:59 AM
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I never liked flirting at work. Especially when I needed the job/income or it was important for further carreer (but I'm also not attractive (average looks), so I instinctively knew it was high(er) risk for sexual haressment consequence) The study says: For flirtation, 60 percent originated from peers (co-workers), 25 percent originated from clients/customers, eight percent originated from a supervisor. In terms of gender differences in the frequency, men and women did not differ significantly i…
/r/BlackPillScience21/12/19 10:04 AM
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I always believed this video to be the best representation on: flirting at work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8
/r/BlackPillScience21/12/19 09:48 AM
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id rather hang out with a girl whose flirty At work, one can't decide whom one hangs with. In general, I would suggest to not flirt at work. Especially not, if you need the job or if the job is important for your future carreer. And also at work defenately don't flirt, if your are not attractive looking. It's totally unclear. Very undefined. What is sexual haressment. I only wish these 2 SNL comedy clips were not an actual representation of reality in this matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 09:41 AM
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Steve Harvey screw you, and listen to OP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sueR_Yl21Oc&t=165 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W32GBCdL3Xo&t=120
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 09:34 PM
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Thanks for the great info. 1 thing I would like, to add. To the main causes, of the changes. imo, and that of some others. A big game changer was the introduction to the general public (and it was an instant hit) of the birth-control-pill in 1960 in the USA and Western world. After that, mayor changes started really quickly. The birth-control-pill; gave women (extra) power they never had before. Some info from oter on this matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmYSNOEsukM&feature=emb_logo http…
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 10:01 PM
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Legit, imo. The whole concept of "innocent" women, is a false on e anyways. It's a fairytale. It's all about whom holds the powers; and the balance of powers (or absense of it) in a relationship.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 09:20 PM
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I had the same issue in my early 20's looking like a teenager. I wished back then, I looked older. Now I'm really happy I look younger. It's a good sign (aging wise) that you are ahead of the curve. And easy way I found to look older (dependant of facial hair growth), grow a heavy stubble and one looks older instantly.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 08:25 PM
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I agree, it's a combo of genes and lifestyle. But I'm sure ordinary people can reach those at a certain degree. #metoo. There is actually quit alot on can do. I'm 36; and regularly get confused for a 26 year old nowadays. About a year ago, I looked about early 30's overall. My lifestyle has been good though (not excessive much alcohol, don't smoke, didn't get fat ever, and try to catch decent sleep and not be to stressed, and i so some regular-ish sporting), and luckily I didn't get bald (i don'…
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 04:04 PM
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Brad Pitt, Clooney, Dicaprio, Cruise, Sean Connory, etc.. They aged awesomely. I don't dare to say though, that most men age gracefully. Because I see around me, plenty men get as they age: ugly-bald; ugly wrinkled skinned; and/or fat. Now the last 2 are often largly due to lifestyle choices and could be avoided with proper lifestyle (and skincare/sunblock). Plenty men I know, totally let go of caring about the way they look in their 40's. And it's not a pretty sight.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 08:33 AM
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Yep. When you are a famous guy. Or wealthy. Or really attractive looking. You have to be even more watchfull and carefull, then us regular guys.
/r/MGTOW19/12/19 06:28 AM
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aging is painfull, for nearly all of us. But for women overall, it's harsher. Do you know, women skin ages 2-3 times faster then males past a certain age: https://www.livescience.com/1054-woman-skin-ages-faster.html
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 07:28 PM
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And even forget to add in my post. The excessive smoking that often also happens when people go out partying. And how smoking plenty/alot can fuck up the skin. https://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/ss/slideshow-ways-smoking-affects-looks
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 06:58 PM
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she was a big party girl in her early 20s. It's really fucked up for the skin quality; partying. Since partying means lack of sleep (time for "recovery", also skin), and alcohol. Which both fucks up the skin. And women skin ages quicke then men. So a less good lifestyle (and skincare) will be more harsh on women skin then for males. some "Sources" to my made claims: https://www.livescience.com/1054-woman-skin-ages-faster.html https://www.insider.com/stop-drinking-what-happens-to-your-skin-2018-8…
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 04:36 PM
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The 100k is the most difficult to get, 100% agree. The compound-growth is just so low (in real money) even when haveing a great (percenatge wise) return. It's almost demoralizing (when I thought about the amount of time invested to make that return/growth). For future skills, and habits and apprecitation even; it's god to haveing had to experience the slow starting phase (I assume). MGTOW since 4 years now. I started out endebted, broke with a really unreliable shitty car; 4 years ago. Now debts…
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 04:26 PM
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I agree with that man. He had to be hard on her or at least it's imo granted. Because she has treated him very badly (which he allowed), and then you can be more crude/aggresive then would be the case in regular situations.
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 07:42 AM
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1st grade. and 2nd grade humans.
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 07:37 AM
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we should stop complaining about it and actually storm dc and get shit done That will happen, if enough men are fed up enough, and want change. It's not there yet, imo. So in the mean time, ....
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 03:08 PM
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A prenup can also not work, if there are no children involved. A judge can deem a prenup unreasonable; any time.
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 03:04 PM
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But if you want something in exchange, they think that you are not entitled to it. I agree. That happens pretty regularly. In my opinion, exchange is also part of good relationship (or friendship). When someone fails to have the concept and behaviour of exchange, or a sense of balance, then I re-evaluate to relationship or friendship. When there is an imbalance in what you provide, and what the other is (willing to) doing back. Then one feels taken advantage off at some point(s), and one should …
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 11:12 AM
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oh yeah. I recall that debate with a former girlfirend of mine. I was ill and in pain (due to small dental opperation). She cancelled on making an appointment to meet up at my home, multipule times for that week. Then after that week was over, I was upset. Because when I was better again, all off a sudden she was free again to meetup. I said, it appears to me you are only there when it's fun, and when I need or could use help/comfort/support you are not there. So, I said I would evaluate the rel…
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 06:56 PM
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which parts of their nature do you get disgusted about the most (and why)?
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 06:01 PM
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Thoughts? Your family wants you to pass on their/your (shared) genes. What you want, is not what they concern about when it comes to reproduction. You have to chose or go with your own wants in the end. They will give you critic and pressure on your want likely (if you don't want kids); and I guess they have the right to express their opinion. You have to set the boundry though, on how far you let them go and eccept; when it comes to their critic or pressure.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 05:59 PM
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A great story. About how your former employer under-estimated how much he needed you. To me it sounds like the employer also needs him alot. The question is though, does that employer of OP realize that? If he does, then getting the pay rise should be like a walk in the park for him. I would not hesitate to point out to an employer, how much he needs you (if true) and that you're not expensive/costly at all. Since it would cost him more (in lost profits, or extra costs) if I left.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 05:52 PM
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What do you guys think? I like how you are a hardballer on salary. I wish, I was more like that. The reality, on salary is. If they want or need to keep you, they will be okay with significant pay/salary rise. So mostly it depends on: do they want/need to keep you. Negotiations, it all depends on who holds the most power. If they need/want you more then you need them; then you can get a good salary rise. If that is the opposite way, then it's hard to get any pay rise. It sounds like, you are in …
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 05:46 PM
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She wants a house in California She wants a baby She doesn’t want to work anymore. I need to help her with her gambling debt. She then said it’s been five years, and I haven’t gotten any of that for her yet. Because of her gambling, and passive attitude. She sounds like a difficult person. Is that what you want in you life, you have to ask yourself? As far as her wants go. I bet you for example would want: her +3 naked model looking women going down on you; win the 10 million dollars lottery; ha…
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 03:51 PM
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mid-2016I was here for my family after a crisis happenedNot to mention I saved up 10k, more money than I EVER thought I'd have and I have zero debt. I even got a car that's all paid up. It's a beater-up car, but it's a damn car that's reliable. This sounds almost 100% equal to my story. My LTR ended late 2015. I was in debt at the time, and broke, and driving an unreliable piece of shit car. I went monk mode for Buddhist religuous reasons and overcome the ending of the LTR as well a bit (didn't …
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 02:55 PM
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Thanks for the insight, asian mgtow brither (for lack of knowing you exact country). I recall being on holiday in Paris with my then girlfriend, on a crambed trolley/train trhough Versailles. I sat next to Muslim womans and my gf sat next to me by the window (to take photos). That Muslim woman next to me started looking at me offended; and expressing how inappropriate it was that I sat next to her (and due to it being cramped everyone kinda touched each other unavoidably). I think I emained seat…
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 07:49 AM
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The hardest part would be, for me: Probably, one would develop a bound with that child as well. And then when she leaves, you lose that as well. While likely, you put in alot of effort and time and energy into that child as well; and then it gets just taken away because that woman found or wants new dick. ​ You need, to be more carefull with women, and peope you let into your life.
/r/MGTOW15/12/19 07:40 AM
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Dating is a soy/feminist thing to do. Since the men (when dating) is out in the paradigm/position of impressing a woman. That's just a sad way, of meeting women if a dude wants to have sex or relationship.
/r/MGTOW14/12/19 03:33 PM
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Great. The people in that country voted for this. This is what they want. Out of compassion for people I should hope that it turns out great for the people in that country. Yet, somehow I expect and kinda hope it won't. We'll see. The (majority) of people in Finland voted for this experiment. If it goes bad. Then the people of Finland are not to pity. They wanted it. They chose it. They get to enjoy or suffer the consequences.
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 10:19 AM
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How can that dude say: "How is that any different than the real thing?" There is ofcourse plenty difference, if he puts his brain ON he can think of plenty. Why that dude want to act like a potato-head whom can't think?. I dislike how there is plenty negative attention for the sex toy named: the female sex doll. Because, there is no negative attention for sex toys that women use. Leave people alone, when it comes to sex toys.
/r/MGTOW12/12/19 07:11 AM
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Been there. Absolute great, unique and beautifull place. I recomend going to the Theatre/Opera; if you like that type of stuff.
/r/MGTOW12/12/19 06:55 AM
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I agree. Shitty behavior from that girl, but it happens alot at that age that boys get treated like shit by girls his same age. And then, men get shit often when they do it back (pay-back time) when they hold more power (like in his mid 30's); because he supposes to be mature now and blablabla. He was just asking her to prom That's why imo, he should had made not so much of an effort to ask her. Just use words, they are free. Donuts was to much imo. But the boy must be a romantic at heart, which…
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 05:45 PM
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Women are masters of nothing. I whish I could agree, or see the same around me. But the amount of stuff/help/support/etc.. women manage to attract/get from men and govenment/society is huge. Was it just given to them? Or did they manage to use their "skills/talents" to get all that. Credit is due, when results are good/great on a long term consistent basis.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 03:08 PM
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​ Whichever way, one wants to spend it.That's one of the plusses of being single; freedom to do what you want. No need to negotiate with or please others.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 01:16 PM
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It was a hoax / troll. And then some time later, the real story happened of a woman falsely accusing a man that helped her when her car broke down. One day, this hoax/troll; might actually happen to some dude.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 11:05 AM
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I agree, mostly.Men are the biggest factor. Each gender, tries to use the power they have to keep the other gender a bit in line/under control. Men are failing misserably atm, to do that. While women, are succeeding alot (and more and more over time). Luckily I start feeling stronger and stronger, by the year. And I won't let society hold me back as much anymore, as I did let it. Savage mode, is going ON more and more by the month for me. What my nature is, my nature is; I feel more comfortable …
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 10:47 AM
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There used to be times, that having been a prostitute as a woman meant you couldn't find a decent husband. Those times, have passed. Obviously. I don't feel sad nor happy about it. I guess, I really start not to care so much about it anymore. Progress.
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 10:41 AM
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When she has debts: "What should we do to get rid of OUR debt" Women, master negotiaters. One of the main lessons in negotiating is likely: "assume the sale".
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 08:01 AM
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#MyBodyMyChoice
/r/MGTOW11/12/19 07:58 AM
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I'll take it as a win that this media channel used to right word: RAPE. Hopefully, the rest will follow, ASAP
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 08:34 PM
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A good meme, needs at minimum be true. This one is not.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 07:18 PM
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She didn't mention, what she brings into the marriage. What is it? I can only think atm of 2 big things (in the eyes of men), a woman can bring in (which is not related to being married actually): "fertility" (This is only important for men that wants to have his own children) sex. (this one, one can also buy from hookers at nearly any moment)
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 06:41 PM
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Sit back. Relax. And see what happens in the future. It's an experiment, that I fully support.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 03:03 PM
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That statement is pretty true, when it comes to random sex. Also, what is true: Men will only give commitment to whoever they want. Women can only get commitment from whoever they can. Women hold the power when it comes to (random) sex. Men hold the power when it comes to commitment/exclusivity/providing/protection/attention.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 02:59 PM
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Why that dude keeps replying, and asking confirmation. If she really is someones with a golddigger/hustling/looking for beta provider attitude. At 2nd message from her, it was obvious. She is looking for "provider" stuff from him.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 02:52 PM
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I don't like the laughs emojis, about these dudes pains they had to encounter. Since alot of rejections, is a form of pain.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 09:53 AM
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Interesting to see, how this will work out politically speaking. If it works out like a great success, and damn do I maybe need to update my believes on female leadership. If it works out bad, then I get confirmation. Or somewhere in between.
/r/MGTOW10/12/19 09:00 AM
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Legit. Blue pilled dudes needs to be more savage, if they want to date. At minimum that dude should had made her show/proof with action(s) that she likes him in that way, because words mean shit. Actions or nothing, show it or gone.
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 04:48 PM
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How does one survive there (financially), in general?
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 04:41 PM
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I thought she raped a 15 year old boy. But, according to the article, they luckily only had sex. /s
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 04:37 PM
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Why is she refusing the money of the Boyfriend? My wild guess is, that she feels she has to be loyal to him if she takes his money. But she is moral enough, to not take his money and sleep with other dudes at the same time. That's already rare. I am supposed to understand and wait months for sex? You can do what you want. What one is "supposed" to according to others opion, doesn't need to be done. It's more dependant on if you will take the conseuquences. how can she think I'll agree to such ar…
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 12:17 PM
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Why would anyone want kids? To add. It's common/regular to want that. With everything, a person wants. One can ask that question. It's overall imo not good to tell someone that they should not want something that they want (because you don't have thath want or an opposite want). It's normally speaking. Incorrect, to put wants (in it's essence) on an hyrarchy of: good - bad ; or stupid - smart. It maybe because of laws/society/etc.. become a more stupid want to excecute a want. But to have that w…
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 10:48 AM
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Insane or not. The stuff they say at "femaledatingstrategy" is what actually plenty women (already) do. Women always, lie about dating and what they want; in real life. Because they don't dare to, or want to be percieved as nice. So women will always say, they like men with personality, or humor, or confidence, or that is himselfes. The truth about what they want. Is at that subreddit, femaledatingstrategy. Guys shoudl not get butthurt about this, where they say what they really want/like. Becau…
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 10:36 AM
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Another main cause, in the financial aspect. Abidah, knows poverty or a more simple lifestyle and can easier deal with a financially simple lifestyle. Whereas Becky, doesn't want go down in lifestyle and wants to have/keep a lifestyle of hyper-consumption when she has children.
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 10:23 AM
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I don't read the study. But did they correct, for people that were married and got divorced? Or is it like, a company doing a survey under their current customers to ask if they are satisfied. And then they get a good score, of like 85% statisfied. Whereas if you include all the customers of that company that they ever had (also the ones that left); they only have a statisfaction score of 65%. Because all the unhappy custimers, left. Likewise with marriage studies, where they only study the curr…
/r/BlackPillScience09/12/19 08:02 AM
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Not even qualified, it sounds. I feel for high positions in politics, one should also have a track record of achievements. To show capabilities. But voters/people don't care, so that's not an issue there I guess.
/r/MGTOW09/12/19 07:08 AM
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The age, is even more surprising to me. Often we have more older people, where I life. By the concept, of older people having more life experience and skills.
/r/MGTOW08/12/19 07:55 PM
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To add. I read the amount of days they estimated. - heavy beards -> 6 weeks - heavy stubble: -> 10 days - light stubble -> 5 days
/r/BlackPillScience06/12/19 03:23 PM
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Brutal.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 03:12 PM
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I don't read any effort on her part, to make stuff more exciting. Common, complain mode.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 02:54 PM
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Tinder, the place to be.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 02:47 PM
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There exists almost no creepyness for (very) hot/attractive dudes. Halo effect.
/r/MGTOW06/12/19 05:36 AM
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that's a pity, for sure.
/r/BlackPillScience06/12/19 05:33 AM
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The word "creepy" gets used so much, for normal/acceptable behaviour. Like for example, an older man holding the hands of his young girlfriend. Because of the false over use of the word "creepy", Now actual creepy behaviour, that is called creepy, I often don't believe anymore. The word has lost it's meaning.
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 06:13 PM
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2 other studies about facial hair, I just read. They also answer questions or comments that people have about: "what if you have great jawline"; what if you have a feminine featured face", etc.. Study 2. source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jeb.12958 This other study. showing females the faces of 36 different european men. Most of them likely most are regular/average looking faces. Kinda same findings as opening post study, but a bit more indept. It also tested morped faces (…
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 06:03 PM
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I agree with what you said. But, what about men with neither weak nor strong chin/jawline? (aka regular/average men) Looking at this picture that they used, I would say that man has an average chine/jawline. And the scored him better on attractiveness. Therefore I would conclude: * strong jawline/chin -> go clean shaven * average or weak jawline/chin -> go with heavy stubble (if you can)
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 12:52 PM
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this picture better quality to see, for you? (it's the best I could do, get, find) https://imgur.com/a/4Lo3CmF ​ I agree, it's hard to see. To me it appears around 1cm hair length
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 11:53 AM
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the heavy stubble looks like not stubble at all? More like an incomplete beard? Okay. I didn't come up with the definitions. the researchers did. But you can look at the picture, and decide yoourself. I dunno if there exist higher resolution pictures of this one. If so, and you know/find it. Please share, would be nice.
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 11:20 AM
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There is not real defintion of that. Look at the picture they used. And see what the researchers decided fitted the labels Picture: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Barnaby_Dixson/publication/257492193/figure/fig1/AS:297587467931648@1447961789588/An-example-of-the-stimuli-used-in-this-study-Images-show-the-same-man-when-clean-shaven.png
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 11:18 AM
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I guess so. If you see parenting ability (perception) as betabuxx. Which in some ways one could (especialy if not for own children).
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 11:10 AM
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So heavy stubble > light stubble, heavy beards, clean shave face > full beards? For what? If just for attractiveness (for a regular looking guy, like they used in the test a regular looking guy): 1. heavy stubble And the 2nd to 4th, is pretty much the same with little difference: 2. clean shaven or full beard 3. light stubble ​ there is a picture to be found on this page:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257492193_The_role_of_facial_hair_in_women's_perceptions_of_men's_attractiveness_heal…
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 11:09 AM
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The full file: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257492193_The_role_of_facial_hair_in_women's_perceptions_of_men's_attractiveness_health_masculinity_and_parenting_abilities " - Women judged faces with heavy stubble as most attractive - heavy beards, light stubble and clean-shaven faces rated as pretty similarly - full beards highest for parenting ability and healthiness Masculinity ratings increased linearly as facial hair increased, and this effect was more pronounced in women in the fer…
/r/BlackPillScience05/12/19 09:51 AM
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To be so blatantly faced with the "disposable male" theory And. Women have a very strong in-group-bias. Aka, that they will back females. And. Men don't have a strong in-group-bias. Aka, men will trow other guys under the bus for their own advantage, or for female validation, or if they disagree. Hence, the battle for men being treated better; doesn't work and will go nowhere. Only sometimes temporairely will men be treated well/better, when there is a hugh shortage of men. Like after the end of…
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 07:32 AM
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How to use your own baggage; to fuck up your children. What an asshole woman, and dumb woman, for saying this kind of stuff.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 08:20 AM
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It's correct-ish. Starting in October, was always the season I (average dude) got the most attention/reciprocation and less rejection from women. Then I figured it out, they were trying to be with someone in the holidays period (december) and early february (valentines day), and during cold winter days there is not so much to do.
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 08:17 AM
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"well lucky for me, if I decide to change my mind at 50 I can just get a hot 20 year old girlfriend and pop some kids out then." Although you meant it jokingly, likely. This is actually true. Especially if you're rich/wealthy and stay healthy. Which you will likely be if a man is doing as well as you, and staying single, and smart/good with money (saving & investing).Like for example that youtuber "coach redpill", he is in his 50's I guess. And he's financially well off. And, he (just) moved to …
/r/MGTOW04/12/19 08:06 AM
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Fucking Child Protection Service. I don't mind paying taxes, so to fund the "Child Protection Service" for it to defend and protect children (from crazy adults). To looks out for the interest, of children. But the way that organisation acts, it's stupid. Just cancel it, or else it needs 100% reforming imo. But my opinion and that of men don't matter with "Child Protection Service"; all that counts most there is the opinion and hive mind believes of the female. Gynocentric as fuck.
/r/MGTOW03/12/19 09:00 AM
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Pure and honest, is the correct discription. Most men are very honest about their appearance. What you see, is what you get. No false advertising. Women below the age of 40 on the other hand, try to make themselfes look much better then they are intrinsically.Plnety women, manage with all this stuff, to make themself look like 2 points/10 better then they actually are looking without makeup and all the other stuff. Aka, a 5 turning into a 7. And then she won't accept guys that looks like a 5 or …
/r/MGTOW03/12/19 08:07 AM
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Why? I guess I'm build that way, personality wise. I agree, that not caring at all what others think, seems the most superior position. Caring about what others think, isn't totally black and white (like: totally care or don't care at all); but imo a bit in a spectrum/scale. I used to care alot more, with puberty being the absolute worst time. It's significantly less luckily, now. I would say, I'm kinda average in this respect compared to others my age, like I care 20% of the time significantly …
/r/MGTOW03/12/19 07:35 AM
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coworkers call me gay because I’m not actively pursuing women to hook up with. Common plan of men. I was one too, in the past. If I were to go dating again (monk mode now). It's a faulty attitude, the persuing attitude that 90+% of young men have. Because most men believe, they have to convince women; persueing a women means saying -> "I am less then you". It needs to be reciprecal at minimum. If you are found attractive or desirable by a woman, they will "persue" you also or invite you or come …
/r/MGTOW02/12/19 11:18 AM
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Wether the feeding/nurturing part, or the teaching skills part. It's both valuable, and the woman plays a big part (if she is normla at least) in the upbringing of the child you have with her. I heard the first 5 years are extremely important though. Like it sets the the frame for the rest of the child life for a high percentage. Some source, although not a good/great one: http://www.factsforlifeglobal.org/03/ "The first five years of a child's life are fundamentally important. They are the foun…
/r/BlackPillScience02/12/19 10:12 AM
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To add, but not 100% sure. I also read the hypothese for 1 man for 1 woman; as a way to keep the men in society from getting angry and uproar. Because if it's up to the fertile woman, like 70% of men will be put aside by 100% of the women. And the 100% of fertile woman sharing the "top" 30% of men. Causing the "bottom" 70% to get angry, and making it a chance that they may cause revolt/revolution/overtrow the system they life in or wars or whatevers. So, as a management tool for society as well.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 03:41 PM
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How the fuck can I resist women? It mostly depends, imo. On the factors of: * libido/hormones level (it decreases naturally with age) * how much hurt/pain one has experienced or have other see go through, in the process of associating with women romantically and sexually. I was celibate the last 4 years, because I started it after an ended LTR with the memory of pains like: the abortion she did, the beta-buxxing leading to being broke (which I hate) and remembering all my relationships were most…
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 03:36 PM
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LOL @ the gynocentric bias in title of the article: Ontario man moves out without telling girlfriend they won 6/49 jackpot Nope. They did not win the jackpot; but He won the the jackpot. If the roles were reversed, the title would be something like woman won 6/49 jackpot. or Boyfriend claims jackpot winnings of his girlfriend If she had won, they would make a title and have the angle of: it's her money. Wheras when he wins, they have the angle of: it's their (shared) wins. Biased assholes.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 07:23 AM
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Marriage 'Pros' - ? Yeah, that one is also 100% off the table for me where I life. Going for random sexual encounters, flings, etc..; I have also managed to postpone so far; but I can totally imagine that at times I can't manage it anymore and go hunting for sex/pussy again as I did in my 20's. More wise and simple would be actually for just sex, I think, to go the hooker route.
/r/MGTOW29/11/19 07:15 AM
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I feel stuck He doesn't know what stuck means, but will learn it's meaning after marriage.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 10:49 PM
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I wish.It's so sad that disceases took away men like Patrice and Muhammed Ali. Stupid disceases, always pick the wrong ones.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 10:16 PM
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Can someone please help me All I have is anger mid 30's old dude checking in here. I can tell you my experience, so far in life and what I have seen around me. It's pretty normal for most average looking you men. To have an absolute shit dating life up untill his early 20's. I was incel untill mid 20's, and I was average in many ways (looks, etc.) at that time. There is 1 main cause for this: the huge difference in sexual market value (SMV), between young men and young women. A young men on aver…
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 10:02 PM
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I dont care what anyone says The sad part is. It's so bilogically inate. It's not something people chose to want; that want is just there. One needs master control skills, or prefrontal contrext, to supress that shit for long(er) periods of time. I'm monk mode for 4 years now. Ignoring women, staying away from them, and so on. Jesus Christ, is it getting difficult the last couple of months. The thirst for the combo want of these 2 things is building in me I notice: the actual sex, and the sexual…
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 03:25 PM
1

Great move from your friend, to dump the bitch.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 03:05 PM
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He just let her wail on him and pull his hair out and shit If he's still with her, he is a big fool. only 2 reasonable options: dump her; defend yourself (aka beat her back) and dump her.
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 02:02 PM
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What we do have (along with many Euro nations) is a bloated welfare system that has turned cancerous and is starting to subsidize and promote failure. 's why my vote tends to go to those who oppose that system. #metoo. Last time I voted, I only checked for the party that wants to deminish the wellfare system. Because it's imo totally out of hand. It subsidizes and promotes failure. And, penalizes (in a way) doing things in a succesfull way. For example: I see plenty cases where it's financially …
/r/MGTOW28/11/19 09:37 AM
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Women have to 2 values. I think Her Reproduction/fertility is valuable. And also the caring aspects/works for the offspring, has some value.
/r/BlackPillScience27/11/19 09:15 PM
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we don't live in a socialist society Where, I life. It's also not 100% socialist, in it's core defintion. But largly socialist, in many aspects. Like, in my country when I earn above €68000, I have to pay 52% income tax. Above the VAT tax when I consume (21% VAT). If I were to earn €100 and want to use it all; I will have to pay €60 in taxes (Income tax and VAT combined); while the actual money I spend is thus only €40. I as a single man, being self employed. I can apply for near zero social wel…
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 10:06 AM
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We live in socialist societies already. For most countries in the West, it is already significantly socialist with socialist programms. Where i live, in the netherlands we have all the things already mentioned in the above picture under: "redistribution of income and wealth".
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 06:18 AM
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Seems, reasonable. As i see around me. Mothers are often more like: "No, don't do this. Can't do this. Do it like this, that is how it is supposed to be done. No, that is dangerous. No, that makes you dirty. etc...". Whereas fathers mre have the tendency, to let children be creative. And let children do things, differently, oddly. Or let them fail trying o do crazy stuff. It makes kids later much better at creative thinking and problem solving new things/situations.
/r/MGTOW27/11/19 05:50 AM
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This post on reddit. With the opposite opinion. That it's okay not to want to date a single mother. It has alot of posts of men in there, that are single fathers. And these single fathers get rejected alot I read in the comments, by women, for being a single dad. Women are very inforgiving towards them, about their past baggage. So, fuck double standards on this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/e1jl1t/not_wanting_to_date_a_women_simply_because_she_is/ ​ Some top-comment-…
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 10:37 AM
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That picture, represents a time of: salaries, being that high that a low schooled blue color worker at 25, could on his salary be the provider/buxxer for a stay at home wife, children, buy a home, own a car, holiday at least 1 time per year, and do a bit of saving. stay at home moms men pushed into the provider role by society (to add, is was easier thoigh at that time to be a provider due to higher salaries) plenty unhappy marriages, because the man didn't like it or the female didn't like it o…
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 10:29 AM
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The sad part. It seems, these men really tried to their best. They did their part, with 100% confiction and effort. They likely have their faults/downsides, but it's obvious they did their absolute best. They provided, they supresses their desire to have sex with other women, and they did their best to make wifey life comfortably and happily. And then these women, don't even have the decency to break up before cheating, or tell him. But just keep using what he provides her, while the only reason…
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 09:59 AM
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I am not sure, because I never been there. But I think. Japan, is the country were men are most enslaved, if they chose marriage/kids. They have to work like 50-60 hours per week; AND hang with the boss after work as well. The consequence being: You slafe your peak years (20's 30's 40's) away in work (related) environment; and have no life for yourself. Maybe you get your life back as a man, after you passed like 60 orso; but then you can only enjoy the rest of the life as one can do as an more …
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 09:40 AM
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As a man gets older; stays fit and decent looking, and build his carreer/money/status. Then at some point, he could do a little bit back to women what he likely had to suffer in his peak hormones teens, and (early) twenties, by women. Things like: - friendzoned; - rejections; - ghosted; - low interest responses but not totally rejected so for you being kept around as backpocket option number 6, if the first 5 options fall through; - cheated on; etc.. I can't blame someone, for wanting it to get …
/r/MGTOW26/11/19 09:34 AM
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Great. It's ood to be carefull with money. Spending $700 on a birtday in the context for a commited still sounds alot to my standards, but I'm not rich nor have a great salary (just regular). So it's very relative, money. Good luck with getting over this betrial, treated yourself is a good start imo.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 06:53 PM
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.... disgusting .... slammed ....... outrage ....... shocked ...... horrified ..... forced...... Reading these words, on would imagine they talk about: a violent act, or robbery, or war crime, etc... But nope, they are talking about: walking past a large urinal.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 06:14 PM
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Cheated? If OP uses that word "cheated". I think we have to assume they were exclusive, otherwise that man wouldn't use such word. I also doubt a dude would spent $700 on birtday stuff, if they weren't agreeing to be exclusive.
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 06:07 PM
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Every man. Should STOP being suprised about the following things: Women below the age of 35; getting 100+ likes/messages/etc.. on Tinder, Instragram, etc.. within 1 day of posting/registering Women below the age of 35 having plenty (online) orbiters options, that are willing to send or give her gifts/money/etc.. Women below the age of 40, being able to have sex within 15 minutes with a new/random man, if she wants to. To many men, probably most men, do the above and are willing to do the above, …
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 01:47 PM
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Doing drinks. Sounds better then doing dinner. Dinner is the ultimate cuck date, imo. I never done a diner date in my life. Even as blue pilled as I was; I in my blue pill days already beleived dinners are only for women I have a (sexual) relatinship with already; not for prospects. I always suggested dinner, at home for dates. Because it's cheaper, and better for me to see if she can even cook (severe/big golddiggers can't and won't cook (anything decent))
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 09:30 AM
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So viciously the #metoo movement; attacks the accused men. How little the #metoo movement; does towards women that made false accusations in the #metoo time. That shows, how wrong that movement is in that way. It's 100% biased. As most men, we are more fair and honest. For example. If a woman starts to physically hit a man, and he defends himself physically. We stand up for that guy. If a man starts to physically hit a woman, while she wasn't physical with him or provoking/asking him to hit her.…
/r/MGTOW25/11/19 09:22 AM
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I agree.Unfortunately 90+% of people looks to disagree with us.
/r/MGTOW24/11/19 09:33 PM
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wage gap, explained.
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 09:12 PM
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who recieves 2000 pounds per month, in state handouts Forced cuckery, by the government! Men are forced to pay taxes, to the state. So that the state can give her/single mom 2000 wellfare. So she can raise her (and some guys) children. Conclusion: men are forced to pay for the raising of another man his child. Aka, forced cuckery. Even though a man avoids dating single mother like the plague, because he doesn't want to pay for another man his child (raising). The government/society will force hi…
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 08:27 AM
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they have so much attention online they are no longer able to attract or receive random attention what I mean by random is them being on the bus in a guy tries to talk to them then walking on the street and a guy tries to talk to them Yes, I see that also. Women get more attention online, then ever before. Attention in real life, is lower. Men also moved online. So men give less attention to women in daily life as before. Because in the older times (where I'm also from), guys had to and tried to…
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 08:12 AM
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#metoo
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 07:52 AM
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i agree, that it's the ideal age range for men and the child, and also for her it seems. Understanding this that no man should see value in any women that is past the age of 18-22, in daily life, i don't see at all that men see no value in women past 22. I see it decline, but men treat a 23 year old women often still like a special person. Only after 30, has the percieved value in the eyes of most men dropped alot.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 09:12 PM
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I never understood the concept, of women thinking having a carreer or job. Is something fullfilling or enjoyable or fun. It gives one the ability to support oneself, and that is about it. Most people would quit tomorrow if they didn't need to go to work anymore, because they have enough monet to support their lifestyle. I would, at least to a very large extend. That's how unfullfilling work/jobs/carreers are; for most.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 09:05 PM
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AKA. A life ruined. Because, he got taken 28 of his prime years. Not like, 28 years from 65 to 93. But more like stolen the period between 22 to 50. Fucking sad.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 01:00 PM
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Above average looking men, that are criminals/rapist/murders/etc.. They make women wetter, then anything else.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 12:14 PM
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i don't have facebook. so i can't see it.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 12:10 PM
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It is sadness that men can't handle and they fear that intimacy will take them there. imo. it's not just sadness even. If it was just sadness, men wouldn't mind or could handle it. ​ It's the totality of painfull consequences that could come with "intimacy"; them being: the financial stress, the unconfrotableness of being broke, having to work alot of hours to maintain-proivde for the family or pay the alimony (or rediculous high child support) your young children taken away from you (can't see …
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 11:45 AM
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That sad part is. Plenty jobs men do are ONLY done, to satisfy the ladies.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 11:15 AM
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Good looking/attractive people. We have the tendency, to halo-effect them. Most people are like for example: So a woman looks attractive, so they assume she is also trustworthy, kind, moral, good person, etc.. Check, halo effect in real life to seen an example of what it looks like. Like in this video, how people are very willing to help and give free stuff/money to an attractive looking person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEho_4ejkNw
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 10:57 AM
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Most men need to be more savage, towards women. Aka, making them face the consequences of their nasty behavior. It's not about being the first one (as a man) to act nasty, but to defend en repay them with unforgivingness when they were the one starting hurting you first.
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 10:38 AM
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That is better, then probably 80+% of men. Whom likely spend more. At the same time, it's not "let's starve them out" totally. That I only see monk mode dudes do. I managed for 4 years now to be monk mode, and I have spend zero/0 money on women/dates/etc.. in these years. It's getting harder and harder though I notice for me as the years increase, because of the want for sex becoming more and more. Logically speaking, escort would actually make the most sense, which costs like $150 orso. Or the …
/r/MGTOW21/11/19 09:47 AM
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Fuck em but don't support them... In my observation. Most women gather support from guys, by putting out the idea/concept to these guys that sex might happen. So, guys will start to spend time with her to wait around for getting sex, and in that time women manage to get (or get handed) support/free stuff/meals/etc.. from men. The only consistent way I have seen, men not support women. Is the men that go celibate. Because the men that still hunt for sex/pussy, most of them do end up to some exten…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 10:55 PM
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thanks. I hope the museum goes broke, for this discrimenation.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 10:47 PM
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blocked in europe, this website.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 09:53 PM
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It's mostly I think their lack of control, when it comes to food intake. That is probably a larger part, of the cause then the lazyiness to go to the gym. I mean. I had pariods that I sat alot, and I never got fat. Even though I lacked in excercise. I just, eat what I need to sustain. And when I don't sport, I eat less. weight. is the result of food/energy intake; and what you burn. If you control the intake decently, the weight takes care of itself. My favourite nasty fat shaming clip. https://…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 09:09 PM
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Luckily I opted out of mainstream entertainment, 10 years ago already. All this stuff, is flying by me. So nice, that nowadays for entertainment, one can go outside of the mainstream easily.
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 08:21 PM
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AWALT .... keep it in check all the time, and most rarely do unless they run out of options. I think also. AWALT behaviour kept in check by women, is for like 98% due to options or avoiding bad consequences (like being rejected by whole family). I, assume the percentage is same like, on how people are truthfull/untruthfull. <1% of people lies almost all the time. And <1% of women behave AWALT all the time no matter what the circumstance 98% of people lie when they can get away with it and they c…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 10:59 AM
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My mother is the same, although I will tell you that my mother is no saint and no unicorn, she does look after dad even after his stroke. I thought the same, of my mother and her sisters But now I'm older; and know more about my mothers (and her sisters) past, I changed my view a bit. I know my mother, only after/since she has hit the wall. And you maybe, likewise. Most women behave more NAWALT, after hitting the wall. Because they don't have the options anymore, to behave AWALT. Now that I'm ol…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 10:30 AM
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when I see posts like AWALT, do they mean that every single women on the planet are like that? 99+% are like that**, At some point in her life.** It is to describe their nature, that nature in women that is in conflict with the best interest of the man/men. It's female nature, because it's always there within them. Like how nearly all men have the nature in them, to want to (and most will) fuck a hot young woman that looks like a 9/10 if she asked him to fuck her; even though he is in a commited…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 09:54 AM
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An alcoholic drug using stripper/whore payer and pussy chasing man. These are parts I disliked in the video, and how I as a single men often get advised to life my single life, by married/paired-up dudes. But I don't like to life debauchery-like so much, because I value my health and fitness to much. And I hate chasing pussy, because of the parts/moments where one validates women and build up their ego with ones attention. Most dudes I know that go the alocohol, drug, and fucking hookers alot ty…
/r/MGTOW20/11/19 09:03 AM
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I agree, I think the best options are adoption or surrogacy.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 04:26 PM
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Then, I felt an emptiness. ......... met someone after being ULTRA picky ...... .... We had a baby..... Although my single life, is not nearly as exciting, succesfull and good as yours. It is pretty comfortable and low stress-ish though, for me. The last 4+ years now on MGTOW-monk modus.I also get this feeling now (mid 30's) creeping up on me, mainly/mostly about wanting the child. And my mind wondering, that maybe: I can minimize the risks, find a decently moral woman that is lifeable with, kee…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 02:43 PM
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He (the video creator) says for him they have no SMV In my response I was more considering the SMV on the whole. On an individual basis, ofcourse it's regularly much different. It's true that plenty women past 25 are looking for the provider man, for the phase in their life that they want to have children and/or a man to take care of the children and her. Serious commitment, and responsibilties for a man to take on.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 01:49 PM
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Yes, bald can look great on some and maybe plenty men. That why i used "ugly bald" as my discription in the last one, i forgot to put that in the earlier ones I see. I meant in all "ulgy bald". it's not meant for guys that looks good (or normal) when bald/balding.
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 01:44 PM
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your prime years is in your 35-45 .... SMV .... I agree overall alot with tha statement, especially for average/regular men. -Extremely true. If one doesn't get fat, bald, ugly wrinkled alot, aka one stays fit. And one has good disposable income. And no children. -Very true. If one doesn't get fat, bald, ugly wrinkled alot, aka one stays fit. And one has regular disposable income. And no children. -True. If one doesn't get fat, bald, ugly wrinkled alot, aka one stays fit. And one has regular dis…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 12:27 PM
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exact same reverse post, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/dye84h/facts/
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 10:46 AM
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all of them eventually got married and since then friendship has changed I hardly see them now as they are busy working extra hours to support their wife's. #metoo. Especially, when children come into the picture I found. Just married without children, was still okay-ish often. But, with children + wife. Most of these guys, only care about hustling for their offspring and wife. And the rest, can fuck off/doesn't matter anymore. And they often lose the concept, of reciprocation or balance. All ab…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 10:02 AM
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What angers me greatly is my parents see these social media by my sisters and judge me by that standard. I have to hear regularly why I haven't become as successful as my sisters and their husbands, and why do I not have fiance yet. Successfull as a man for the sake of getting woman+family = BetaBuxx lifestyle plan. Even in conservative countries like mine with little feminists, men are treated poorly, like servants without agency and dreams of their own. Always the expectation to sacrifice drea…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 07:43 AM
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I'm having a hard time deciding what my next step in life is going to be. #metoo. Now at mid-30's. Most women my age have children already or want to have them. Most guys my age, also have children already or want to have them. Hanging with these people, they try to cast me for a babysitter, or to add to the rotation. And they'll give nothing in return. So, people my age, I lose most of them. So it's either more going with the younger crowd or the older crowd. It's also the first time in my life…
/r/MGTOW19/11/19 06:59 AM
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How come almost all of them are women? I guess, a combo of this: * it's as a pet that they can take care off and needs them (aka motherly instict statisfaction); * I think women like (or aim) to control something that is (much) stronger then them. And they can do that with a horse; * A horse is a bit expensive, so it's often also a bit of a status symbol.
/r/MGTOW18/11/19 09:12 PM
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my respect for at least trying, but unless they follow the kind of advice of Smith or take the gloves off like the feminists did in the 60's they're not making much progress per lifetime. This is my view also. I respect their efforts, and their tries for trying to collaborate with society/women. It's the fair thing to try out first, to see if it works in accomplishing stuff. The more hardcore response from men, have lacked to put more pressure behind it. So they also had imo, little backup from …
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 08:58 PM
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Great. For me personally this would mean alot also: don't ever have to show up for work ever again I like or more need to do something, that I find meaningfull-ish (otherwise I get a bit depressed). So I probably still do/work something, I think that makes a change. Even volunteer work, who knows. But that work is optional, is great concept. I can also enjoy debauchery and relaxing around, but somehow only really when mixxed with doing work/something meaningfull-ish (in my mind). When there is s…
/r/MGTOW17/11/19 09:38 AM
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True. In most countries. I hate that risk. I'm postponing therefore also having children.
/r/MGTOW16/11/19 02:51 PM
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Harsh.
/r/MGTOW16/11/19 02:48 PM
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reply from "RollingStones-lovers-user" sent 2 hours ago WTF, media going apeshit about old(er) dudes going with young adult women? Yes, this drives the gynocracy crazy. They can strip men of every advantage we enjoy, but no amount of legislation, shaming, or gaslighting can change the fact that women's sex appeal declines rapidly with age. (Men's does too, but nowhere near as fast and the decline can be offset if the man rises in terms of wealth and status.) Judging from her pictures, the woman …
/r/MGTOW16/11/19 01:14 PM
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We Rented A Girlfriend In China | ASIAN BOSS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkvpk3k8ars You can even rent, a whole fake family. mom, dad, etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzaXw2ztCqU
/r/MGTOW16/11/19 09:42 AM
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I purposely try to stay away from media for these exact reasons. #metoo. I'm plenty on Yahoo-finance. because it's imo one of the best free one out there, related to stocks and business. And there I get pushed these entertainment titles as well.
/r/MGTOW16/11/19 09:29 AM
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Delusional. Listening to people, that reason in that type of way. For me. It is, seeing a person that is psychologically sick/broken/etc..
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 10:01 PM
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How would this translate for guys? "Get all the bad bitches , in you out. Have crazy sex with bad bitches, get it out of your system, learn some new tricks. But marry the good girl/woman" Asif anyone would come out, undamaged out of shitty relatinships with bad bitches (or badboys for women). No, you come out damaged and spoiled. And that damage, will come out by punishing others for stuff they have never done (but the bad exes did).
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 09:58 PM
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How about #BelieveEvidence That only counts, when the happiness of women isn't jeopardised. When it "hurts" women, there will be worked towards an outcome where women get their way.
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 02:20 PM
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and it still works? Men need to not be suprissed anymore. Fairness and logic, are not important. Gynocentrism, "the happiness" of the female is ALL that is important.
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 02:17 PM
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It's true. 1 main factor though. Some dude have libido or whatever, that they become quit frustrated without sex for a long time. I'm kinda like that, 4+ years monk mode. And over time, I start fucking hating it more and more to not have sex. So, I can totally sympatize with dudes, going after sex. I would think for just sex, the prostitute way the most logical one. O know it's giving women pussy power, validation, resources, etc.. But I also find it reasonable to giva a man a break from time to…
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 11:26 AM
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She then leaned back on her side of the booth and shook her head in silence. "Thank you," she said, "you told me the truth. You told me the fucking truth." unexpected, but great. I bet though, she didn't eat up the truth well when she was 25 years old. It's only when reality hitted the face multipule times, does she accept it. But then it's to late. That's why. Smart people listen to advice from others also (ahead of time). And regular people, learn from their own experiences. And the dumb peopl…
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 11:16 AM
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Great to hear. I'm from an European country, so I didn't know the system is like that in USA. That sounds pretty reasonable. All I heard so far in news from the USA education system, was that it is very expensive and students have huge debts. But the extremes always get covered by the news.
/r/MGTOW15/11/19 08:28 AM
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One of the top PUA's once said he can get a woman into bed on average in 7 hours. If he worked these hours instead. 7 hours x $18 = +/- $ 125. What he highly likely means. When he finds a woman that's interested, it takes him about 7 hours. To find that interested woman, for sure it will take him more then 3 hours to find on average. So that's an extra: 3 hoours x $18 = +/- $55 The more one earns. The more sense it makes (f just for sex), to go the prostitute route.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 10:11 PM
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a place with large breasted awesome intelligent women who are not so ruined by this 3rd wave crap. Land of unicorns? Sorry for the diss, but it appears wishfull thinking. How do you guys feel about conscious use of adult services? Seems to me to be a way to game the system somewhat. I have never done it. But it makes the most sense, if just/only looking for sex. I surprisingly to myself, managed to stay monk mode for 4 years now. But if I can't handle it anymore and want sex, then this way seems…
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 10:05 PM
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How the fuck can one borrow 11x the annual gross income. Where I live, it's like 4x, maybe 5x times tops.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 09:49 PM
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Free University. vs. Very expensive University (like in USA). I prefer the middle. Affordable university.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 09:15 PM
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if you want something else, get lawyers and work out a dfferent deal before marriage happens They, are called prenups. And anything in the prenup can be overruled by a judge. Aka, they don't work so well.
/r/MGTOW14/11/19 09:11 PM
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I don't even mind paying is the thing. I also used to think like that. Yet over time, I have come to hate it more and more. The aspects of that hate/dislike growing over time in me: 1. setting the frame of me/men being the traditionalist paying up, (whereas women 95+% of the time don't hold up their part of the traditionalist exchange) 2. it's a way of extracting money from men towards women 3. women labor participation over the past decades has imo also contributed to stagnant/deminished wages …
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 05:07 PM
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for me too. And my self esteem was pretty low, usually. It still kinda is, I think. All it did for me, is that I became kinda numb to rejections. Like a person that kicks a tree 10 times per day. the first week it hurts alot, but after 200 days it hurts very little because the leg got hardened. For me, it was kinda like that example.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 03:34 PM
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She wants to get dinner, so we make plans Dating is also, men showering women with free stuff like: dinners, gifts, outings, events, etc..When I still dated (8 years ago orso), I already had the rule that I wouldn't do outside dinner for dates. Outside dinner was reserved for actual gf's; women I already fucked. Now since, my lasy LTR ended, 4 years ago. I decided monk mode, and thus I haven't done anything. Sometimes, due to sex drive. I consider retrying dating, to try to get some poon. But I …
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 08:53 AM
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Still haven't learned to shut the fuck up at work huh? It's imo a little bit 2-fold. It's nice to be able life unfiltered-ish as well. Especially when someone is the type of person, that doesn't mind or likes discussions/battles/fight/etc.. All/Most the people I admire, are people that (at some point) were speaking out about what they stood for, and fought the verbal battle. I agree with your advice, if you don't have fuck you money . But if one does have the "fuck you money"; then it's okay or …
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 08:26 AM
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I don't understand, why you post this childish happening on here? This is a group of 15 years old orso, right? Then ofcourse it's okay to do childish stuff.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 08:00 AM
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I agree. When someone respects you, they might admire aspects in you or they might fear you. Whereas when someone loves you, they might not admire or fear you at all.
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 06:13 AM
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itried no fap for one week and i went mad. #metoo, when I tried it. I got pretty pissed, and angry mood. While I'm normally a pretty jolly and relaxed mooded guy. how to stop it? 4 years in. Overall, it's pretty hard.What works best for me to supress it. Put body into recovery modus. That I can/could do by doing hard training, then the body needs to put energy into recovering the muscles from the hard training, causing to have or put less energy into libido. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2…
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:37 PM
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Imo. Most (or all) religions are totally off when it comes to concepts about how life/earth came to be, afterlife, etc.. But often they are pretty good, at stuff like. How to manage relationships, women, men, concepts to make society functioning and coherent, creating a group loyalty, etc...
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:31 PM
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that men should pay for dates I hate that concept also. It's asif the past 60 years didn't happen. Where women are now allowed equal or better chances of study and carreer/work. In the old times, women didn't earn money (much), so then it made sense for the man to pay up. But that has all changed now. Yet, probably still most regular men pay. because they hope it gets them laid. Only very attractive or abaove average men can get away with not paying and still getting sex; the other regular men p…
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:25 PM
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To add. Child-support IS NOT child-support when it's $2 million for 3 years. The cost of a child is more like $6000 per year orso. Child support it is not in this case. Or maybe only like 0.5% of the total amiunt, the other 99.5% is for something else but not for child support. It's for that immoral woman, rewarded for nasty behavior. If I was that man, I would never pay the $2 million. If he's really kind, then maybe 50% of the cost of the child acoording to what is normal he could pay, like $1…
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:20 PM
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Sad
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:06 PM
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Good man project Change men more into dispossable work horses, then they are already.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 09:04 PM
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she's never been dumped before and that her self esteem is damaged as a result. Imagine all the times a man gets rejected almost daily when he approaches a woman. I have at least 500 rejections under my belt (if I count (fake or true?) excuses as rejections also). Self esteem, pretty much unaffected.
/r/MGTOW12/11/19 08:58 PM
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Women BS about how much things they can get from men. Men BS about how much sex(partners) they have. The amount off money, seems like a hige exageration. But for sure, can young women make good money with webcamming/napchat premium. But I doubt, so quickly (unless she has a huge following already on instagram). I would assume it takes some time to build an orbiter base on snapchat.
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 06:10 PM
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In that article and comment section there was something in my gut that felt uneasy. That missing or uneasy feeling, is probably the excitment-feeling that comes with fucking/dating new people.
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 11:02 AM
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Looks great. Personally. I would prefer a warmer place and a smaller one.
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 09:20 AM
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I still desire one. I may just be bored. But idk how to let it go 100% natural and biological. To want: have sex, have children, and have a relationship with an attractive and pleasnt/liveable woman. Not that prementioned is possible, without plenty risks and a high fail rate. But, normal to feel to want that. Then the internal battle begins: What weight more? * the possible joy of getting that; or the * risks/pains that may come with looking for women to have sex, relationship or kids with. And…
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 08:17 AM
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I dumped my gf to escape the plantation and things are up. Investments are up, hobbies are up, bullshit is down. Greatest summary of reasons, to leave the plantation. Which mosy relationships are. I find it so unfair nowadays, that most relationships women (under 50) still get/require men to cary all/ 75% / 50+% of the financial burdens. Asif, the changes of the last 60 years didn't happen, where women demanded and entered the workforce, demanded and got equal/better education chances (and gradu…
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 08:00 AM
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Yep, this story from a man named Kenan Basic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUhTkiGLJk
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 07:38 AM
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My observation, about the "aplha male" concept. Mens idea/concept about the Alpha Male: A strong (minded) man, great leader, doing good for the world, goal setter and go-getter, driven, energetic, calm, good under pressure, etc.. Womens idea/concept about the Alpha Male: Agrressive immoral asshole, whom will do anything immoral to get what he likes/wants.
/r/MGTOW11/11/19 07:28 AM
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You are the Prize. Since men are often treated as dispossable, unimportant, and our interests as something no one cares about. It's hard to rememebr for alot of men, that they are a prize. Opposite dude, RIP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzUKdAO6L0
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 06:55 PM
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before i did anything more humiliating. That's imo, also a big point for these types of relationships. It will diminish or crush you sense of self-worth, confidence, self respect. If one stays in.
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 06:46 PM
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I recognized that i cared about her far more than she probably cared about me These are the most risky type of relationships, I recall from my history. Because, they are then way more dispassionate then you. And thus, they opften hold/have the power. this often leads to, one putting in way more effort and pleasing then one gets back. It will be very imbalanced often, more like she extorting. Or like, a 15% / 85% relationship. Where she gets the 85%.
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 06:32 PM
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I don’t even care if 12 year olds are married off to 50 year old dudes. That does sound sad. I recall being a 12 year old boy. And stuff like relationships, marriage, and so on; wasn't stuff I wanted to be confronfonted with or have to deal with. Most adult stuff things, I luckily didn't have to deal with at 12 years old, nor ideally should any 12 year old. My grandparents and even some of their children (boys), had to work already when they were like 12; so to help the family. One even got send…
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 06:25 PM
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even if I had done this I still would have been downvoted to hell and gangbanged by the internet warriors there. Likely. But then sane readers know. They aren't interested in facts/truth. But are only interested in their own opinions. Opions are like butts, everyone got one. But facts/data/research, can (and sane people should) end a debate based on opinions. You would have just been called a pedophile with graphs instead of just a pedophile. True.
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 06:18 PM
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How is an 18 year old consensually dating a 30 year old the same as 12 year olds being married off to 50 year olds, without their permission? It's not the same at all. Maybe next time, add some scientific data/results from studies. To backup you're not just talking opinion (like thet are, likely). study: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaap9815 " The average woman’s desirability drops from the time she is 18 until she is 60. " graph: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/…
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 05:07 PM
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I sometimes wonder. Would I got on a date with a girls I have no interest in; for 1000 or 500 dollars? It's well earned, for a couple of hours. But semi-deceptive, at the same time because the other with their retarded mind thinks they have chance.
/r/MGTOW10/11/19 11:47 AM
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I the article, there is alot of: "..... She forced him to .........." While in reality, he wasn't forced in most of the given examples in the article. He was to agreeable/soft/weak to stand up for his own interest.
/r/MGTOW09/11/19 06:00 PM
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(im not full on monk, i like sex), LOL. Since 4 years monk mode now, and I do like sex. It's hard on that aspect. I think most, if not all, monk mode dudes, ofcourse like sex also.for me, that last Long term relationships, cured me from wanting to deal with women "romantically" for a while. It was to stressfull, and to much annoying. I recall dating, I found it to much effort, annoyance, irritation, and so on, to be worth the (possible) sex. Am I being to paranoid? Cautioous is not paranoid. So …
/r/MGTOW09/11/19 05:42 PM
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and i wont lie it bothers me. Feeling like im not good enough is extremely painful and having no sex life/virginity just adds to the feeling That's normal that it bothers you. I was was incel untill about mid 20's; and it did bother me. in my observation, for many normal/regular men/boy at young age (eens and early 20's) it's kinda normal-ish to be incel. The main reason. Women in that age group, are at peak sexual market value. 18 years old women untill early/mid 20's; gets interest from men fr…
/r/MGTOW09/11/19 05:26 PM
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The kick at the end when she was already down was definitely overkill When in a fight, and with the adrenaline, hormones, etc.. It's hard to think, dispassionately. Most can't. So therefore in self-defense it should be allowed to have a bit off "overkill". Because, one can't think and is high on all types of emotions. when sitting in a
/r/MGTOW08/11/19 09:38 AM
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45 year old men should not be neutered. Either all men are neutered, or non are neutered. If want people to breed less, then maximum numbers of children at 1 per person orso. But an age limit for men, makes little sense to me.
/r/MGTOW07/11/19 11:12 AM
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What's so good about dating a woman who is 25 opposed to 45? the main reasons for most men are: fertility (importnat since most men wanna have children). more attractive looking. more flexibele in: changing lifestyle, less set in their ways, habits, and believes. less bad baggage often (baggage such as: another man his child, "past bad relationship baggage" that one gets punished for even though one has nothing to do with it) . more status (from other people) one recieves, when having a younger …
/r/MGTOW07/11/19 08:23 AM
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Forced cuckery. Having to pay to raise another man (and woman) their child. It is already happening, and the suggestion of that feminist woman wouldonly make it much worse. I would prefer, 100%, for the financial burden to be on the parents.
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 08:39 PM
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Patrice, was a great verbal warrior. The best one, I've ever seen. He was a master at calling out BS, and giving women/people a hard time about their BS. He stripped what people stood for, to the core.
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 06:35 PM
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Is buying sex from girl wrong? Imo. It's not so black and white. As in good - bad. I see it more as a scale. for example 1 = very bad and 10 = very good. For me, buying sex is like 5/10. But I come from the starting point, that I dislike how women due to their higher SMV then men, get all these privileges/favours/benifits. Aka, the pussy on a pedistal. Now, I understand. Most or plenty men want/need sex. Hence women high SMV, (because dudes are hornier and want sex more, then women). Aka, more d…
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 10:05 AM
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This is what gynocentric reasoning looks like. It doesn't make any logical sense, unless you understand that the only goal is: "please the wants of women. At expense of anything (including such as: men, children, safety, etc..)"
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 08:45 AM
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Unemployed for 7 years, child is 2. She chose to be financially dependent Great observation. You're right. I can semi imagine, a woman not working (or little) for a couple of years when she has a few young children. But before/after that, it doesn't seem to make sense (other then laiziness/comfort) to not be financially independant. I disagree with marriage at any age for men at least, in the West with the current rediculous government interferese and rules concerning divorce and alimony.
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 08:40 AM
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Take the big bang for example: in the beginning was nothing, and nothing created something, out of nothing. This itself defies the laws of physics. Science doesn't have, all the answers for questions because there isn't enough proof. And them admitting that, imo is a great thing. Religions most often lack near 100% in proof, yet claim to have the answer. That isn't a great thing. It's an easy comfort to quit the mind (because the question is "answered"). Which is okay, anyone prefers a quit mind…
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 08:27 AM
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It's always women that fucked up ; that pester "real" men to, man up! ​ Whereas, when young (below 25). Most women disdain men, that show "man up" qualities or wants. They are deemed, boring.
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 07:50 AM
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doubts, ofcourse there are from time to time. With any/most lifestyle decisions, there are doubts. Whatever the choices are. The most difficult aspect is, creating a (false) sense of meaning/purpose. Most natural is it for people, me included. To find meaning/purpose, leading to motivation, through having and raising your own children. With, the absence of that meaning/purpose. One has to either be a person, who isn't bothered by meaning/purpose. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those people. I nee…
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 07:44 AM
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has a minimal footprint, compared to miss travel the fucking world. yes, very hypocrit is what people often are. Hard on others and the world, but easy on themselfes.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 08:54 PM
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some people hate her in sweden since she's nothing more than a puppet I have a hard time hating a puppet, when that one is "just" 16 years old. The age, one is imo 100% allowed to be foolish, and should be able to get away with that. I don't have a hard time, hating: * adults that turn 16 year olds into puppoets for their politcal use; * people/media/etc..; makeing the opinion of a 16 year puppet important by pushing it forward constantly
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 08:52 PM
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I love women Personally, I find this a pretty dumb statement. Because, it's to general. I find it, equally dumb, as saying "I hate (all) women". Why, I find it dumb? I like to love people based on: the content of their actions, qualities, and personality traits. And which such statement as you did, you leave no room for that. Loving all women; equals loving women such as: serial killers Miyuki Ishikawa or Aileen Wuornos, etc... Hating all women. equals hating women such as: Florence Nightingale,…
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 08:35 PM
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Hypocrisy among people. Is common. Religuous people, are no better (or worse) then regular people overall. Therefore, hypocritical behavior, is very common among religuous people also, I also saw it first hand. I personally, am by nature very strict. And I was for a period of time, very serious in my Buddhist practose and not hypocritical it all or much. Which is difficult to do. The amount of hypocriticy I saw, and see, among Buddhists is rediculous imo. They are/were run as much by their biolo…
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 08:15 PM
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This girl, managed to get alot out of this rant she had, so far already. She got: * to go/travel to many places; * alot of free days from school it appears to be; * meet alot of famous people; * be famous/well known. My 16 year old self, had a fucking boring life. With being locked in a a school for many hours per day, and due to being shy also not that much fun outside of school. I don't dislike this girl. I dislike the importance the world gives to her ranting. And ranting, is all she seems to…
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 08:07 PM
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Sadly, plenty in line with my experience also. Most men seem to opporate by: Hoes, before bros.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 07:55 PM
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there is a greater probability of God existing in an ordered universe, than not existing in an ordered universe. The universe is ordered, therefore God exists. This is, imo, a round about way to try to proof something. But a wrong way, to trying proof something. It has to many assumptions. The logical concept, in the current time. There is no direct proof, or direct partial proof. Therefore: - the one assuming it exists does it based on believe, - the one assuming it doesn't exist, does it based…
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 06:41 PM
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That guy, Dave Ramsey, I found mostly correct on all stuff in relationship to money. Except, imo on 1 thing, and that is his pro-marriage advice.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 06:09 PM
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Great work. Most regular people, even men included. Have pretty bad business sense, in my observation. The best book on business I ever listened to (there is also the book, but I listened to this audio book in the car 5+ times already). I would, like to share it with you, since you already have great accument, maybe this helps a bit to grow it even more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Ue7VBMd6U
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 06:04 PM
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2 mayor, bad points: 1. Low effort. No info, or background story. 2. Not asking it as a loan, but as a straight up gift.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 05:42 PM
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#metoo. The hamstering is hige. And so dislike, her attitude about seeing herself mostly as a victim. A victim of society rules, divorce court, etc... While imo, these are things where women have amyor advantage at, due to them being gynocentric.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 05:17 PM
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I would make her pay child support using this article. That's up to be decided by a judge in the family court. Likely (looking at statistics), they will find or make up a reason why she wouldn't need to pay child support.
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 05:07 PM
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That Briffault's Law (the man was a genius, for comming up with this), is brutal: "....... Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place........ ..... Even though a woman has accrued past benefits from her relationship with a man, this is no guarantee of her continuing the relationship with him. ............... ................. If a woman promises a man to continue her relationship with him in the future in exchange for a benefit received…
/r/MGTOW02/11/19 09:13 PM
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and experience the awkwardness. Not a good reason. To do something, or to not do something. In my opinion. Often, winners in life have mastered the art of looking awkwardness right in the face and not being bothered by it (much). Win win. What's the prize/win? I don't see it, in this story?
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 09:16 PM
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Bringing a child into this world is the most selfish thing That is true. Having children is entirely selfish. For oneself, to feel better (hopefully), or to create a false sense of purpose, or whatever reasons.
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 08:53 PM
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Both, are looking for selfless saints, orso? Reality check. Most people ahve their own interests and wants first, and then the rest. It's normal, okay imo. It's also what makes it difficult, to life with one and another on this planet.
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 06:01 PM
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Maslow incentives If I remember correctly, I think Maslow did put sexual reproduction, on the first level/layer (Physiological Needs). But I have to agree, that it's less strong of an incentives then survival stuff like hunger, thirst, etc.. Maybe Maslow was kinda wrong, to put it there already.. For me, it feels more like stuff on the 3rd layer of "Social Belonging Needs". I can totally get though, that for some people it feels like it's first layer/basic need. They get very sad from not having…
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 05:33 PM
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Children are liabilities. 100% agree. And imo, it should also be 100%, a personal liability of the parents. I hate it much, that the state, gives (part) of my paid tax-money, to people/women because they have children. Basically, forcing me to pay for others their children. They serve no purpose. I agree. When thinking about purpose deeply enough, nothing appears to have purpose.The question I also sometimes ask myself. Does something need to have purpose, to do it? for example I think; "eating …
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 05:14 PM
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If I was ever dumb enough to have a kid Why is it; or what is; dumb about haveing a kid? (you mean, it's dumb nowadays because one invites or on a way has a child with the government whom can? Or you, mean it's dumb in general?) Is mgtow against having kids? For me. atm , it feels a bit like. I'm mid 30's now. I assume, if lucky, I still have a reasonable fit/healthy-ish 35 years (max) ahead of me. I do get regularky overtrown, with a feeling. That in my lifetime I would like to experience havin…
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 05:00 PM
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The main reason, we have children. Is in essence. The passing on, off "your" genes into the future. I don't know, what is cuckoldry by passing on ones "own" genes? (I mean. I don't have children. BNor do I want them at the moment. But as a childless man, I do feel the "painfull" feeling coming up sometime from not having my own child(ren). It's the feeling, of a kind of missing, and pain. This feeling, I see as natural inate, and it's likely there to try to motivate me, to go out there to find a…
/r/MGTOW31/10/19 04:44 PM
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That's true. How you look, doesn't define your health. I also look almost 10 years younger then I am, on the outside. But health and inside wise; I totally feel I'm not 10 years younger.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 06:19 PM
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He looks really good/young, for a 65 year old man.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 04:47 PM
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I also heard. I dunno if true. That in France, they live under the common rules of: Company/Business = Bad and Greedy. Workers/Employee = Good and victim.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 04:44 PM
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Do they speak English well? Or German? Or Dutch? The ones a know, are some time here. And they speak mostly broken Dutch, but can still understand. The dentists, mostly only speak English. they are not so long here yet. I am not sure but I assume there is a bit of a glass ceiling for foreign workers without a solid grasp of the local language, which is why I doubt that these immigrants can work their way up the social ladder. It certainly isn't the case in Germany, but Holland but me different. …
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 12:18 PM
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I agree, in general. Men with a beautifull wife, or many hookups. Recieves high status, from people. Min with no (wether volentaire or unvolentairy) beautifull wife, or nor hookups. Recieves lower status, from people. That's how i notice it.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 11:55 AM
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The first LTR that started when you were still young (and so was she). And that ends. Is the hardest one. Because, with that one, everything was the first, everything was new. The hormones were/are the strongest at that age, so everything fealt the most intense/exciting/high. And in many ways, the love a man feels, gives and allows himself to feel; is the most unfiltered one he will ever experience. hence, why it's the most painfull/hurtfull one; when it ends.
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 11:50 AM
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I assume that they work there for a few months before returning to Poland with a few thousand euros. The ones, I know (like 10 orso). All moved here with their partner/wife, and life here permenantly. Some, even bought a home here. They usually both (have to) work, usually the man fulltime, and the wife parttime. It's true, they often work in factory, considered by locals as menial jobs (I don't like the term menial, because I respect anyone earning their own income whichever way and not moochin…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 11:35 AM
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in my observation. they do that around the time, it's last call to have children. So in their early-mid 30's; they become a born again "traditionalist". Especially or mainly they ones that want children (or have children already, and are looking for betabuxx to do the providing). Then when they have ahd the child, and the child is a bit older. Let's say 7 years olrd. And the child dgoes to school again, and they have more free time again. They regularly drop the traditional values again, and wan…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 11:23 AM
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Now it’s gonna be super awkward in the gym. Imo. Being able to not let super awkward, hinder you in life (stopping you from doing something). Is also a very important skill. I know in sales for example, being comfortbale with awkward, can help alot. Great to read, it doesn't stop you from going to that place, and you just go through "awkward". ​ For me, I try and like. Treating awkward, like fear of failure. Stare it right in the f* eye, as dispassionate as possible. See or analyse the actual de…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 10:39 AM
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so I’m not sure why she’d choose him over me. To answer, that question.She has options of men to choice from. And she found that dude (overall) a more attractive option then you. I’ve never felt shittier. Why? Nearly every man, knows or has to accept. that there are hotter/more attractive men then him out there.Likewise, nearly every woman, knows or has to accept. that there are hotter/more attractive women then her out there. When you're a top 25% "type of person" for exmaple, you are though mo…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 10:33 AM
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Poles living in Poland are more traditional. Generally Poland doesn't export their best.... Ohh. I didn't know that. We have quit a few Polish people coming to life in The Netherlands in the area where i life. Because they say to me, thay can earn much better here. Most of them work in the factories, we have here. I didn't know, that they "weren't Polish best". They more said to me: that the young people that have the option to leave the country to got the West Europe (like netherlands), they do…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 10:15 AM
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I know some Polish men and women. Whom migrated to the Netherlands, for work. They life more traditional. Kinda like, less traditional as the generation of my grandparents and more like the generation of my parents. They are not as traditional as my grandparents were (born in 1910's-1920s), but maybe more as my parents generation (born in 1950's). What happened with my parents generation, here in the country side of the Netherlands. Most started out, pretty traditional. Married young (before 23)…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 09:57 AM
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I’d like to believe in love and traditional women still, but it’s tough. To add, my thing I would like to say about "traditional women". Imo, "traditional women", are created by society/surroundings. It's not something they are by default. Most women in the past acted traditional, because society/family/peers/etc. pushed them there and if they didn't follow that they were met with things like: criticism, getting ignored, low status, etc.. Nowadays, in the West for sure. Society/surroundings does…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 09:41 AM
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In this day and age. I see "The Wall" as such, for women. ​ matter/subject before wall after wall Random (uncommited) sex from dudes. Can easily get from nearly every men, including hot men. Can easily get from men, but not anymore from hot looking men. Getting commitment or commited relationship Can easily get from most men, including desireable men Can't easily or at all get from men. For sure not from desireable men. Men that want kids also don't want to give commitment. Can maybe still get c…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 09:26 AM
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are men shamed more often than women for expressing their sexuality? Yes. If the man is average or below that. No, more often. If the man is above average or attractive. This video, is a funny yet true video. on this matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 09:10 AM
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know thy thirst and thirsty self. Everything else seems to be talking points of a rational mind albeit that hasn't be polluted by lust. I agree. The whole Leykis101 list, starts out from the starting point. That one: wants to fuck women (non hookers). When one doesn't want to fuck women, this whole list is pointless. The question, then becomes. Should one, try to fuck women or shouldn't one do that? For both answers, there is something to say. But if one answers, Yes. Then all off a sudden one n…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 03:49 PM
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Never spend more than 40 bucks on a date. For me, still kinda much. Lets say one has 1 date per week. 4 per month. That is 160 per month. That's my total grocery bill per month. That's 1920 per year. That's 19200 per 10 years. If one would put away 160 per month. for 20 years. at 5% capatial gains. After 20 years, one would have $65000. (on an input of $37500). Also, dating costs time. Time = also money. If it's just about sex. It would be cheaper to take that 1920 per year one would spent on da…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 03:34 PM
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Extra: I also work fulltime and she stays at home all day while the kids are at school. One gotta prepare, for an exit. And atm, you're in the worst possible situation. Financially and children wise. -Your children are young, and you don't want to be out of their lifes at such a young age. I dunno, what to do about that, and how to get a good chance of keeping contact after a divorce. -She has zero income, and you have all income. This can become an alimony nightmare. You need 2 things to change…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 03:19 PM
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Nearly all the girls I know went through this phase. I agree. Nearly every woman (in a free country), will go through a slutty phase in their life. Also the "good girls". Even it "just" be for 1 summer, that they slut it up. But they will have that period. In that period, the bidy count goes quick. Because we all know, if a woman wants to have sex she can find a dick within 1 hour no problem. (whereas for most men, that is not an option to get sex with alot of women easily and quicly)
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 02:52 PM
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All the women and white knights, are dissing that husband guy. Al I'm thinking: That dude is allowed to have his own standards, in what he finds acceptable and unacceptable. It's his life, relationship, etc.. One, can debate wether his standard is something one should or shouldn't have. But it's ultimately his decision. I think these things bother him: It breaks his concept that he married a "good girl", and he only respects "good girls" and can't respect "bad girls". 2ndly; data on promiscuous …
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 02:46 PM
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Guy at work constantly bitching about his wife, all day, 9 hours straight, no stop. He immediately burst into tears and just left. What a man.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 02:34 PM
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Imo, it does have an high amount of hypoctitism in it. Or easy talk, not followed up by action. Like: * how a rich man, says to a poor man. That money doesn't matter. * how a trust fund man, says to a man with a bad start. That anyone can make it big. * how an good looking instagram whore, says to an ugly looking person. That likes/validation don't matter. * how a man that easily attracts sex from women and has alot of it, says to an incel man. That sex doesn't mean shit, and doesn't mean happin…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 11:13 AM
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Equal opportunity, women. So work, or have a carreer, and you'll have the same amount of income/wealth as the man. You'll have the same amount of income/wealth as the man; but you'll also have the same shitty life with long boring ass days at work slaving away for the almighty dollar. You can't have it both. Most men I know, with great carreers/wealth; has to sacrifise alot of time and fun they couldn't have. For having to work. They had to miss holidays, trips, outings, parties, etc..
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 11:03 AM
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I have seen many times how my parents or friends react when i speak with a girl or get attention from a girl. ................., to be validated from a woman. Some guys are hateful and jealous about it. My experience, is likewise. I was single (and incel) untill mid 20's. And guys (and women also) treated me with low respect, and showing they considered me a loser. Then in my mid 20's, untill early 30's. I started getting relationships and so on. When I was in a LTR with a decent looking woman. …
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 10:54 AM
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Women don't care if they look desperate For men, with fame, model tier looks, hugh wealth, with power. Aka, the top 0.01% of men, They don't care to look desperate. But with "regular" men, they do care. That's my observation, at least.
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 10:47 AM
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How to overcome laziness, I dunno. But on your statement/believe; to be able to become rich in like 5 years. This is hands down, the best book on that subject matter I have ever read/listened to. I listened to that audio book several times. It's a master piece. And not a scam book, looks most self-help books on becoming rich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Ue7VBMd6U
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 08:44 AM
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Sex with the same person, for years. gets less hot, and more boring. Sex with a new person, is more exiting. Above is probably universal, for both men and women. But, when you decide to marry or go monogamous LTR. You'll deny yourself that more enjoyable and exiting sex with random/new peple. For the benifit, of the LTR. I don't understand these discussions, abou people being together a long them. And complaining about the sex. It's normal and i think evryone knows, that sex with the same person…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 08:22 AM
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She makes no sense, these 3 points that she makes aren't even related.: * Men hate to pay for dates. Because women now have equal opportunity and want to earn their own money/income. And because it sets the frame, that her time is more valuable then ours (and we have to pay for her time). * Men hate poor single moms. Because they ask and get welfare/help from government, payed with our tax money. Plus it's sad to see children grow up in poverty. * Wether a man is broke/deadbeat/very selfish. Tha…
/r/MGTOW29/10/19 08:11 AM
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you can fuck any high end prostitute daily until death. it's often for these men more about validation and status. Having a hot presentable woman by your side, adds status in these circles. Coming solo every time, lowers one status among the people he hangs with. Maybe showing up with high end prostitutes, which makes it beleiveavle that they aren't actual prostitutes, but that he scored them. Maybe that would also give him status/validation
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 09:58 PM
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I’ve always been polite so I don’t see why she would hate me? I dunno. maybe ask her straight up, if you wanna know. My guess. she either finds you unattractive, or attractive, or she's just plain carzy/confrontational by nature.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 09:50 PM
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I checked the thread on that sub-reddit. They have imo, no good or real advice for that girl. And that says alot. They give that woman advice, and assume that men like and are looking for the same things as men are. They assume, that men is looking for a woman with carreer and stuff. Asif that man is looking for a female BetaBuxx. This is the top suggest to make that dude interested in her: " Ask him if he's religious. If he wants kids. What his long term career goals are (and challenge your own…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 09:44 PM
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Great.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 06:53 PM
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Sometimes, I have the feeling. Women don't want to compete with men. But, they want * to see how much they can take away from men (for their own benifit). * How much they can make the life for men more difficult, and themselfes more easy. The fault they often make, imo. * They try to take away stuff from men, that we didn't even want but decided to do, to survive or impress "the ladies". Like, they assumed it was something great to have a carreer, while often it sucks and just means long hours s…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 06:49 PM
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Fattie: "How dare you say that to my face?" Al: "Well I'd say it behind your back, but my car's only got half a tank of gas."
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 06:16 PM
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I'm mid 30's now. At 30, I was still in an LTR. Which ended when I was around 32. I was broke, and with a little bit of debts when it ended. Been single, monk mode, since 32. Now 4 years later; I'm debt free, have some savings, and am not broke anymore. The frist years were difficult, because of the lifestyle cut I chose so to quickly pay off the debts. Now, I feel like I have spare money again, to pick up stuff I enjoy nd that cost some money. The past 4 years have been peacefull; but a bit lac…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 04:41 PM
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men live through there girlfriend or wives, they act all though and confident, pretend to be that much, try to tell other people how to live there lives they have all the answers because they have a women by there side.. To add. My personal experience. When is comes to getting respect, validation, etc.. from others. I used to be in an LTR, with a decent to good looking woman. I got treated with a certain amount of respect, and so on from others. I'm now 4 years single. And I have noticed, over t…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 04:32 PM
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My observation. Usually these men that do that, are more looking for female validation (and from others, (family, friends, co-workers, etc.) for being seen with a woman. And they are less looking for sex.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 01:44 PM
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I would recommend that you delete your post and save yourself some negativity. Or, if she can handle it. Just take it (the negativity). Life is like that, it's good to have thick skin for "negativity". its clear women are fucking retarded The majority, lack good perspective, data, and the basic intelligence on subject they have an opinion about. Probably the majority of men, can also be like that. Basically people. Sharing their dumbass opinions, based on NOTHING or based on falsehood. This is w…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 01:34 PM
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I agree personality is near irrelevant, when it comes to dating for short things stuff. The only personality trait, that maybe matters to an decent extend. Is how extravert/social you are. Because that way, one meets enough women. For short term stuff, Looks play a hugh role (and also for long term, although can compensate a bit with betabuxx stuff like wealth, carreer, power, status, fame, etc.). I once read in a research, looks plays almost as much of a role for women as it does for men (very …
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 01:29 PM
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He heard one talking the other day she was able to pick up a guy with is brand new Mercedes Benz that idiot drove her all weekend and he paid for everything...this is how fucking desperate men are to get pussy these days.... that hag is 45 super shallow and uses men like that..... That man must have been quit old, and/or ugly in looks.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 01:18 PM
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Thanks 4 the reply. We're very traditional people. Women ... will shame you if you don't do something that you MUST be doing (in traditional approach). Do women, though keep up their part of the "traditional concept"? Because I read from another men in this thread for examples: "Russian women are notoriously slutty" and I read " finance wise, women have equal opportunities to make money". When I read that. It seems women don't keep up their part of the Traditional lefstyle/concept. But men, stil…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 11:57 AM
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If she can swing her titties around. Why am I not allowed to have my balls swinging around. They need just as much air, as hers
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 11:27 AM
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Sounds pussy, that they pay up for women. While these women, make their own money. I always taught Russian men, were hardcore negotiators? (because they know the hard/rough life; and therefore have to be strong and won't be handing out freebies)
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 11:23 AM
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Normies put too much stock on appearance to ignore it if you are still on the hustle. I agree. When still on the hustle. It may alsoe depend alot on the type of work one does. Like if one works in construction, one can get away with more. Then when one tries to earn money, with selling stuff or as a lawyer, or etc.. I'm in tax advisory for businesses and people; and run my own office (so need to attract customers as well by myself). The hobo look, doesn't go down well. Even in private time, when…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 11:20 AM
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Do most Russian men, "pay up" for Russian women? (aka, pay for dates, and provide when in LTR) Or do most Russian men, refuse to do that?
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 10:43 AM
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feminism has been running rampant there since 1917. Russian traditionalism is a myth they hide behind when it suits them, they want the best of both. AWALT. That's fucked up then, if Russian dudes agree to pay for her. Since, if I read correctly, they have their own income/work/carreer and equal opportunity. So they enter the labor market, bringing salaries down for men. Then, men need in general to demand equal-ish sharing of costs. It's unfair imo, if they get the good things passed on from th…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 10:25 AM
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why I am single (my last LTR ended just 2 months ago) wow, that's quick. And also, such a woman mentality. Because they have the possibility ro move on within weeks, to the next partner. Most guys don't have that want even. It took me some time, to get over my last LTR. I went MGTOW straight after (didn't know MGTOW existed). Now 4 years in, MGTOW lifestyle. Guys what the fuck? Can someond please explain their behavior? On a primary biological level. It has alot to do, with passing on genes. We …
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 10:06 AM
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if your product is not selling, the problem is not with the customer, but with the product... Great analigy. It's like for example: LG blaming their customers being poor losers, when a shitty yet expensive TV of them doesn't sell.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 09:54 AM
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That's true. Traditionalism is also: man paying for woman. Well, then the question is: Is this good/bad? Well, in 1950 women didn't or couldn't work in many Western countries. So, women had little/bad ability to earn their own money. In that context; I could get it. Because women had no money or income. So the man pays. Nowadays, in the West. Women WANT to earn their own money, fought for that, and caused (partially) also deminishing salaries by entering the labor force. Then, for me, it doesn't…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 09:37 AM
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I acted, as a grey man. For some time. But I stopped that, on these aspects: clothing, grooming, my personal appearance. Car and Housing wise, I still like to to remain grey. The reason, I stopped that. Because I found, that it had to much downsides for things in life beyond women. Things such as: work, "sales", social (activity) "status" in activities, attracting help for things, charity board respect. So stuff like that. I heard about the "halo effect" (and "horn effect"). After that ( I think…
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 08:46 AM
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Great man and coach. Hopefully, no nutthead feminist woman will ruin it, by raising hell for him hughing/holding the child.
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 08:23 AM
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I would be so LOL, if some savage dudes would start in response the campaign: "Free the ballsack"
/r/MGTOW28/10/19 08:19 AM
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Wow, she really doesn't seem to have a point. Which is kind of okay imo, for a child. I don't understand, why someone with so little to say gets so much attention. But I opted out of watching mean stream media some time ago, for such reasons and other as well. So I'm not really suprised.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 07:56 PM
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i have no idea what her points are. I didn't listen to any off her speeches or what she wrote/said.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 07:40 PM
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-anthony-and-bobo-get-back-on-their-feet Money likely much better spend, then money spend on taking some ungratefull bitch on a date.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 06:40 PM
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That's the feminist dream , right? To be ALL the following at your prime years AT ONCE: mother, carreer/working woman, having your own home and mortgage/rent, and still having a fun/active (social) life. Exhausting oneself in their prime years; with many obligations. It's totally impossible.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 06:23 PM
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That boy, has more right to not be criticizes. Because that boy, didn't come forward, with makeing a point. All he did, was being present at a protest where he tried to remain clam and calm down, the hotheads in that demonstration. That girl, is very active with expressing and making her points. So, actually active in the "public" debate. I think, that boy deserved protection. That he didn't get. they also should had not make his name, and picture public in the mdeia. But they did. That girl, al…
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 06:16 PM
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Which is kinda strange. What is strange? Wouldn't the best way to commit someone is get that person to addicted to you in the first place? I think, no. The best way to commit someone, is looking for someone that is okay/open for the concept of giving commitment. Aka, a dude being comfortable with "BetaBuxxing". But she made that mistake, from the get go, if she wants commitment. Becaus you're not that type of guy, it seems I dunno, about this specific situation. Maybe she wanted random sex at fi…
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 02:08 PM
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To add. They don't even need to share that strategy. I think 90+% of women, have managed to nearly never pay for a date.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 11:47 AM
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JACKPOT!
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 10:39 AM
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It's okay, that she did that. From her prespective. Because I assume, she wants a commited (from his side) relationship. With you, she won't get that. So, it would only be frustration for her if she continued. Plus, it would cause "opportunity costst" for her if she kept hanging with you; because some dude that wants to give out commitment she woud otherwise not be chasing him or have the time to meet him. it's everyone their first responsibilty, to make sure they get out of a relationship what …
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 10:38 AM
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This picture, is like a summary of my life (mid 30's now). And what I seen women do. It's very common for most men in the aveage range (like myself). 1. tough-ish youth. 2. When girls started to look interesting (in teens), But haveing to live a life of incel untill mid 20's due to various reasons (average looks, shy when was young, poor family background, not popular or cool for whatever reasons;, etc..) 3. After mid 20's, still plenty rejections but also started getting first time some random …
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 10:32 AM
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I don't want another shot at a relationship with her. Oh, didn't know that. And I assumed it was about that. I have a small child with her, 2.5 years old. I care in the sense that I want what is best for my daughter. Best of luck, with that. I assume, and maybe you should too. That the ex/mother of your child; will continue to try to fuck stuff up for your life and your child her life. It will be pretty constant battle, I would guess. It will have the most effect on your daughter though, likely.…
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 09:10 AM
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On. Being older women. And her points, on sex and loneliness. * Point 4 and 5. She talks about being able to get random sex (form average and below looking men), as an older woman. That's correct. But, most older women don't want random sex from stranger men (that are average at best). Most want: commitment, attention, talking, his time, support/help, doing things together, travels, etc.. Not getting the just mentioned things, can cause feeling of loneliness for women. Random sex, where the man …
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 09:05 AM
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Could be true. Maybe this time. It will be food poison, or a plane accident, or ski-ing accident, or etc...
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 08:22 AM
3

Love Classical music, from time to time. The Prelude s from Bach are great> I also like most of Tsjachovski. yesterday I listened to Bolero from Ravel for the first time. Also a great music piece.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 08:11 AM
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I lost interest in main stream media and entertainment, some time ago already. I'm getting old.
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 08:00 AM
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She has an undiagnosed mental illness/personality disorder. With my experiences in the relationship, I am certain it is a cluster B personality disorder teetering between ASPD and NPD. What are you doing to yourself, to enter into a relationship with such a person? Even friendships with people whom has these type of things, is challanging to say the least. She is sick, and this will never work out well likely. Like it will never work out, that a person without legs can walk well. Save yourself, …
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 07:58 AM
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Survival of the fittist
/r/MGTOW27/10/19 06:58 AM
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A best case scenario is she hooked up with some guys on a boat and is off snorting coke I doubt that. Women never just leave their cloths, makeup, 1000 of bathroom supplies, and stuff like that behind (for days). because they most often need it, to looks represenatable and clean. Also, we are talking Cambodia here. Not many, but few, rich people with boats doing drugs. Those type of dudes are not there much.
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 07:22 PM
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Why do they not work Because, Things in the prenup can be overturned if a judge thinks they are unfair. A judge decides in the end, if what is written is fair to the "weaker party" (aka most of the time, the woman). And what judges consider, fair. Will often be looked at, through very gynocentric glasses. Also, prenups are overturned, if the law dictates something else. So, lets say you make a prenup syaing "no alimony"; but the law says "alimony". then alimony it will be. Law > prenups. Or even…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 07:19 PM
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Yep. Women are the gate keepers to sex. So, it's no accomplishment to have had alot of sexpartners as a woman. Men are the gate keeprs to: commitment, and giving resources and time. So, it's no accomplishment to have given women alot of money, gifts, free dinner meals/dates, time by being their emotional tampon, etc..
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 07:05 PM
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Exactly my point and mention of common sense. I swear that people sometimes think the world is Disneyland. I agree. What she did is dangerous. In Cambodia, going solo to a beach party in the early hours, and getting drunk/high. Rape can easily happen, for sure. And worse stuff, like how she might have gotten killed.
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 07:00 PM
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Is she actually also diagnosed as an narcissist? If , or whn she is a narcissist. Every effort to talk sense into such a person is wasted. Even for the worse actually, probably you said some things that they can twist and use against you. In a next battle or that battle. Don't associate with people that lack decent morality, you'll get fucked over at some point(s) for sure.
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 06:53 PM
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less than 15 minutes to get 99+ likes So many desperate, creepy messages. To add. To soften the idea that she has alot of options. What kind of options, though? - Most guys, looks for random sex. Most women don't looks for random sex with a regular man. Woman are more into commitment and resources from regular men. Plenty of these men, will not be wanting (or able) to give commitment and resources. So thse men say yes to random sex, but not necesairely yes to what she wants from a regular man: c…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 06:47 PM
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Titanic, the romatic movie. More like a horror movie for men. Cheating women everywhere, men paying for everything being met with zero appriciation. And then when the ship sank, "women (and kids) first" and survive and men can die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Selk6InKMyQ
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 06:33 PM
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#metoo. I was incel untill mid 20's. As far as looks go, I would like to say 1 thing. For many things in life it helps to look the best you can, if one looks good it can help alot (look up info on the "halo effect". And, if one looks really bad, the opposite can happen (lookup "horn effect"). So good first impressions can help alot, with all stuuf like work, having good support, helpfulness, etc... You get the drift. So, it's good for that. To look the best you can. Aka, take care of your body, …
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 06:22 PM
1

It's rough and tough out there, for boys and men. Stay strong, smart and wise!
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 04:49 PM
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My parents lived together for 26 long years. In this day and age, what I see around me. It's more like 5 or 6 years. Children below the age of 10, nowadays often get confronted with seperating parents. Because they find someone else more attractive, or whatever reasons. you're lukcy, that you get to deal with parent separation as an adult. I was confronted with it when I was 4 years old, and I remember nearly nothing of it (maybe it's in my subconcious, still a big influence). My 2 older brother…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 04:47 PM
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having a boss lady would be better for me because I am an introvert. I don't understand, this thinking nor the correlation. I'm pretty far on the introverted side on the introversion - extraversion scale, according to a test. Being very Introvert = being alone gives one energy and being in social situations costst energy. Being very Extravert = being among people gives one energy and being alone costst energy. Introvesrion, has nothing to do with leadership, or being submissive, or being agreeab…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 02:19 PM
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I can never understand why someone with the slightest amount of integrity would not choose a lucrative career over some average bimbo. Me neither, for a bimbo.But some men also want to have children, or do have children. For them children, I can understand a man not wanting to move alot or when he's in the process of starting to have children. Some men, really want kids, you know. Because it can be bad for a kid, to have to move around alot and no being able to make longterm friends.
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 01:59 PM
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yet feminists claim yet feminists, immoral and nasty group of women, claim. Feminist ideology, is mostly wrong in the west in this day and age. And feminisist in the West, are mostly nasty or have alot of nasty tendencies.
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 01:31 PM
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All these tactics, are legally allowed for women to do. (even supported/promted one could even say). So that women can get, from moen and out of this world, what they want. The wants of men (in general) are not deemed important or to be considered (ta a large extend) in scociety atm. Therefore, a dude needs to protect himself, to not end up getting screwed over. Men can get all angry, and try to fight it. Like the MRA men are fighting. And I support their cause. But they achieve nothing (even th…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 01:07 PM
2

this video says it all: https://youtu.be/87N24uZ2Fl4
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 12:50 PM
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You mean she is a nacisist? If so. Do you wanna fuck up your life? If not, then you gotta ghost that woman. Some introverted people do well, be staying in quit and being alsone. But for extraverte people, that is very difficult, so they can better go the distraction way (with a social aspect). Maybe join a new sport, like MMA or motor club orso. Social, active and makes one mind occupied. This is good channel with info about narcists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPNf0YqM8lU
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 07:55 PM
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How to pronounce it, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4WOPG0OE_U&t=135
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 03:34 PM
2

"you gotta give them time to miss you" That trick only works on men, that don't have options. But men that don't have options, are often incel and deffo not with a woman. Because, women most often only chose desirable men. So, that tactic often doesn't work. Because women are only with men that do have options. So if she putts him on ice, he'll go for the other options often.
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 06:36 AM
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Very egotistical, and solopsistic. Can't even be happy for the dude; or think from the dudes perspective.
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 06:32 AM
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r/datingoverthirty Search for: Dating is tuff Dating over 30 is tougher Dating WAY OVER is even TOUGHER
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 02:37 PM
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Last week, or maybe last 10 days, I relapsed - started chasing women. I managed, not to relapse for 4 years now. But, oh my God. Do and did I semetimes get close to wanting to re-test, how dating is. I feel that pressure mainly from time to time; when: - I feel I would really like to have sex again; and/or - when I feel or doubt my attractiveness and would like some "romantic" validation from chicks. I never dare to say: "I won't never relapse to chasing women again in my life". I dunno for sure…
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 11:05 AM
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How many men (not even pua's only); haven't lied about their work, carreer, wealth, possesions, etc.. Trying to impress "the ladies". Well, that can now be rape when she finds out you are not that rich, don't make that much, don't own that home, etc...
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 10:57 AM
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Why is the trp subreddit so obsessed with sex? Probably, they want/crave the female ("romantic") validation a bit more then the sex even. And they ofcourse also want/crave the sex. I assume, some men also want/crave having their own child, and the (false) meaning and purpose having your own child gives one. All, 100% natural, biological innate, wants and cravings. And all things I would be happy about to get, if not coming with to much risks and downsides. But the risks and downsides, seem way t…
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 10:53 AM
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Found that out the hard way. Also. For me I now operate mainly on: Action, Action and behaviour is what I count. Words mean little to me. What you do, what you don't do, how you behave, and how you treat me. That's all that matters
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 10:42 AM
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As a long term single dude, monk mode for 4 years. And thus, that also doesn't life the playboy/fuckboy lifestyle. Plenty people assume: you must be a loser (for not having women). And they they try to find the reason, why you're a loser. Well, that's at least how I feel like it is. In 1 way it's annoying and angry making, that people do this. But it can also be a decent way, to solicite pitty and help from these assholes/bitches that do this. Just playing along, that one could use help to get l…
/r/MGTOW24/10/19 10:33 AM
3

From their own mouth: they seek resources Ime. It comes in waves. Some times they want resources. And other times they want hot/attractive/dangerous men, to have fun.
/r/MGTOW22/10/19 08:06 PM
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There are good people with dicks out there This is a lowkey insult towards men, also. Because: It assumes that most men are NOT Good people, and that most men are bad people. Which imo, isn't true. Most men are decent humans. Some are great, and some are bad humans.
/r/MGTOW22/10/19 08:03 PM
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I hope it will not affect Jordan Peterson his credibility. Because, who else do we got in the mainstream media, to make the feminist looks like the fools they are? Jordan peterson is so good at that. Like that epic Channel4 interview with Cathy Newman. Classic.
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 05:31 PM
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What is more sad: * women liking badboys; or * men behaving like bad boys (although they aren't in essence), so to attract the ladies?
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 05:26 PM
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All rook the same. #hivemind
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 03:21 PM
1

The future of the West. Japan is probably 5-10 years ahead of our curve. The best thing that can happen for mayor change to happen: (trust in) government going down alot, or collapsing.
/r/MGTOW21/10/19 12:04 PM
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Patrice ones asked this question to women also. What if they had no pussy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28gvMM8KXm4
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 07:28 PM
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I like that here also.That most dudes, can read through the anger/inslsuts that some posters make. And still destillate their points, and discuss these points on correctness. More other places, where women also join in. Then it al becomes a discussion about: tone, manners, hurtfull feelings, etc.. Dudes are generally more comfortable with anger, insults, agression, and so on. We all had it, and can see through it, without being to bothered about it. We know, that we guys can sometimes fly off th…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 02:06 PM
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I have seen countless men try to follow tradcucks advice eventually just stop giving a fuck because they didn't get anything for it. #metoo. Often even worse then not getting anything, they get taken advantage off. Extracted, scamed almost, from their money, time, and in the saddest cases their children taken away (no visitation rights). Brutal, stuff.
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 01:58 PM
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I am tired of blaming men for women's stupid preferences. #metoo. It's always that victim frame, in the media. Women is victim of man. Fuck that frame. It's a choice, hence one is no victim. Like that first sentence "trapped in a cycle of abuse at the hands of her boyfriend". That woman wasn't trapped 99% likely, she was just digging it on some level. If he was a good person, she would just go find someone else who would kill/rape/abuse her instead 100% true.
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 01:50 PM
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It isn't his fault at though.He is just doing what women want. Imo, a half truth. Because. He doesn't need or have to do, what women want. Just as a man doesn't have to marry a woman, if that is what she wants. He also doesn't have to beat her, even though that is what she wants and/or makes her come back/stay/etc.. He can just tell that woman, to f* off, leave him alone, dumb her, and never beat her. This idiot fool dude. Fucked up his life, for a dumb woman. Because he can spend then next .. y…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 12:16 PM
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What will he get? - crazy ex (and the emotional baggage she got from him, that you'll have to pay the price for); - other guys children. ​ I don't see anything postive on her list, on what he'll get. She knows, what she wanna get: - be courted for a while; - tall 6'1 -Full package (aka, the six sixes: 6 digit salary, 6 pack, 6 feet tall; 6 inches; 600+ bhp car; 6 months single). Which will make a dude like the top 5+% of men orso. So dating league wise, she needs to be top 5% as well, but she is…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 10:49 AM
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What outcome to expect? When this is the first sentence, of the story: "For 14 years she’d been trapped in a cycle of abuse at the hands of her boyfriend, who once knocked out her front tooth. Another time he had cracked her wrist." Traped in a cycle? Sounds more like, willingly going back because of being a dumbass. His fault, is being violent (repeatedly). Her fault. Is seeking violence and violent people (repeatedly). Aka, 2 very dumb fucks. Now they want regular people to try to concern, hel…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 10:33 AM
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He doesn't get the point of mgtow at all, he's too deep into 'taking responsibility" and can't understand that people would want to avoid this kind of responsibility in order to have more freedom and calmness of mind To add. And even for the type of men, that would actually like to take on the responsibilty of have and rasing children in an pleasant/loving family atmosphere. For that man, MGTOW is now also an lifestyle to pick up. Why? Because that man whom wants that; can't have that (likely) a…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 09:43 AM
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The mayor flaw, in Jordan Petersons teachings. Teaching men, that there are alot of NAWALTS/unicorn (young-ish) women. That want to start a family with children and a lifelong partnership. At best most women want that for like 5-10 years. All the rest of the time, 90+% of women want to have: fun, date around, party, travel, work/carreer, etc.. Jordan Petrson, always makes it sound like. 70+% of women are looking (and whowing in their behaviour) that they want a life long partner to have children…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 09:35 AM
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nobody know the situation that lead to this split-up. It's a common fact/happening, (it's like more then 70+%). That women initiate split ups. When having started a "family life". And it's imo, in this case. Legit to point that out. Now with all the 80% of split ups initated by women, we can say "nobady knows the situation what lead to these split ups". But it is a common pattern. Divorce rates where much lower in the past (pre 1960), and I doubt men have changed much (for the worse) in their be…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 09:18 AM
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I like Jordan Peterson overall as well. He has, imo. Only 1 mayor flaw in his teachings. And that one is: He promotes men to follow this concept: of a lifelong partnership with 1 woman and having a family/children. I agree, that for most men this would be their ideal. Because alot of men would like at some point to have children, and raise their children in a loving family atmosphere, and most men would also like to have a pleasnt-ish woman to wokr together with to have that family. BUT. For abo…
/r/MGTOW20/10/19 08:42 AM
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I was talking about the psychological concept of the: Halo effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect Halo CE computer game, I don't know. My game knowledge ended at about 2003. Only GTA4 sometimes I play, good game.
/r/MGTOW17/10/19 02:05 PM
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I can totally get how it pisses you off. I think, plenty have that. At least for some time/phase. It's shitty from people, yet so common that it must be and is unconcious even to significant extend. Just gotta make the best off it, and make use of the advantages it brings.
/r/MGTOW17/10/19 01:22 PM
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Thanks for sharing your personal experience with looks!. My experience, are in line with what you wrote. Although I never had left myself really go alot, just a litte. And even then, I already noticed the difference. It's the first thing we notice about a person and it is the foundation to our opinion of that person. Masterfull sentence. Says it all, as I see it also. Alot if not everything, gets framed along the first impression often. For example: - Attractive person acts moody: "he must have …
/r/MGTOW17/10/19 10:47 AM
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men are the problem. women are the problem. My conclusion: Humans are the problem, both genders. Neither gender lives in a vacuum, they are feeding off/on each other. The MGTOW monk mode, steps out of that co-feeding system. And actually to a significant extend goes into the vacuum.
/r/MGTOW16/10/19 05:07 PM
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Can you point me to the study that suggests this is true? I recall reading it, it was on evolution or biology study or paper. I can't find it atm. I can recall, what the explanation was broughtly. Her genes, into the future generations. When she has all children from 1 man; all her children have genes of her and him. Now lets say something in that man his genes that get passed on, makes it that the children die because of thing A. Then if that happens, all her genes are whipped out. When she has…
/r/BlackPillScience14/10/19 11:42 AM
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To add. The collected data, was through people filling in a questionair and self report things like their "flirting skills". Imo, that gives a high chance of shitty/untrue data. For example. Someone rates their flirting skills as low, Because she get rejected alot. While in reality of might be Because she looks like a hobbit being the reason, and she actually is a pretty good flirter. Or did they control well for things like this? And do I misinterpret?
/r/BlackPillScience09/10/19 10:25 PM
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How many generations of boys have now been indoctrinated with the concept: Man = Bad Woman = Good ​ I bet already since the 1960's, it started. So that's about 50+ years now. So any man below the age of 50, has been brought up by the concept that men belong in the basket of deplorables. And women are angles send from heaven.
/r/MGTOW08/10/19 08:08 PM
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WOW, what a story. Well, as 30 year old doctor your value to play of the role of the "provider-beta-buxx" is very high. Stay smart/carefull though with the financial big risks around marriage, I've to many horror stories on that. I agree that you hold all the cards, to be able to go below 23, and be picky on whom gets the honor to be the mother of your child/children.
/r/BlackPillScience08/10/19 06:18 PM
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prenups, the content in the prenup sometimes works and sometime doesn't work. It's kinda, hit or miss. The reason it's hit or miss; is because ultimately it's up to the judge in divorce court to decide: 1. if she knew what she was signing up for (did she have enough knowledge or legal conselling etc.) and 2nd. If the judge considers it to be disproportionally unfair. These above to reaons, make prenups far from 100% fail proof.
/r/MGTOW08/10/19 10:43 AM
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This is brutal. I could never go fat. In my shamefull past, I have gone ugly, but never fat. Fat, was just to big of hurdle for me, even when walking around with 20's thirst.
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 07:50 PM
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Nations have been ruled by men for centuries. The laws written by men. How did treating men like shit in family court get started? My opinion, on the sequence of events. Before 1960. Women got plenty children and marriage from young age on. Raising alot of children, being pregnant 50% of the time, and household work was quit some work at the time. So, women had no time to work and where very depandant on men. Because of the dependancy also, women didn't divorce. The laws at that time, were writt…
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 05:07 PM
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our elected officials to appoint soyboy male feminist judges To add. Imo, it seems that this is what a large part of the society (maybe even mayority) wants. Politicians, and Judges are often just a reflection of what the society wants to see. They are not a seperate class, imo, but more e refelction of the society consensus. And that, is the sadest part for me. I see it in daily life also. There is no problem, and cheering on, for dissing men and making fun of men. But it's a problem in anyone …
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 02:37 PM
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Hoo Lee Fook! Big thanks, to the intern whom gave us this troll. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BejQuI3lH9M
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 02:11 PM
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From when men were men I dunno if dudes were better back then. Might be the common bias of "the good old days syndrome".
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 10:15 AM
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Are you one of the men in USA; that fit the definition of: "the basket of deplorables" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idrgiAEk2Vs&t=100 It's pretty sick, how men get shit on often. It's a societal common attitude, I notice. For men that are: disagreeable and have high confidence; they can handle well. But young boys don't have that; as well as most men don't necesairely are disagreeable and.or have good confidence. So for these men, it's harder while thay did nothing wrong.
/r/MGTOW07/10/19 10:11 AM
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LOL @ the woman treating you like shit and you doing so back. Strippers, in the west at least I assume, 99% of them see their customers as losers. And they probably at some point like to make known, even lowkey, that they see you as a loser. LOL. It reminded me of a Partice O'Neal story; where he hated how USA hookers/strippers made him feel like a fucking loser. And how he went/had to go to Brasil, where those type of women at least tried to make you feel good/okay and not make the point that y…
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 02:42 PM
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They don't undertand the concept, that keeping options open gives bad results (overall). Aka, never ending up with something good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13rfq9dqKPE This concept, is hard to understand, for most people. And for sure for that woman that posted.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 02:35 PM
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I will never understand why girls go for such idiots like this One day I figured out the problem, for myself. I made the following mistake: "I was trying to understand women". I stopped that day, and it's been much easier. Any dude (non scientist) I know that have/has tried to understand women, ended up banging his head against the wall going nutts. It's enough, to undertand yourself.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 02:05 PM
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Never had success with girls so called it quits ......one of the attractive girls asked ..... .... develop the unicorn feelings again and I hate how I'm thinking about her a lot when I know its not real. It feels like there options presented to me from the attractive girl to the other girl that I talked to but my head keeps telling me about the red pill. WTF, were and are you thinking? When you beleive that you can stop all feelings related to reproduction, etc..? Our biology, nature, genes; fin…
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 01:59 PM
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With chance of parole in 5 years. That for murdering an innocent fine young man, Gynocentrism, in rampant in the legal/court/government system. Therfore, there are 2 options for when some woman does you/your loved ones serious wrong/harm and you want proper punishment: take matters into your own hands, and flee. do nothing, and just life on as best as possible with that knowledge.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 01:33 PM
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Found a video of the dude, whom did this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixMq0bxbiY
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 12:51 PM
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Legit. Also to add. Over time, her sexual attractive for a man that she is with (in a monogamous way); will shrink or go away totally. Even if that man is attractive. This will cause her to believe, that he's less attractive then he actually is. Like she will feel he's a 7 in looks even though he is an 9.
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 12:43 PM
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Sending money to random women on Tinder or social media platform, is simp next level. I also once recall a situation with an Dutch woman in USA. That was really next next level simp. This Dutch woman, Heleen Mees. An annoying feminist "strong" independant woman (journalist, writer, coreespondant, economic analist); living in USA. She had an sexual relationshop with an old & ugly high flying corporate dude that was married. He dumped her. She got mad i assume, and stalked him (doing stuff like se…
/r/MGTOW03/10/19 12:36 PM
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Levels of simp, is how I see it. Paying for restaurant when not your gf; that is first levels simp. Paying for her phone bill; next level simp. Imo, simping can and does come in levels.
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 04:54 PM
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Rare, that one man is both to a woman. I was always pretty god at seeing when I was casted for the beta-buxx role, which was most of the time. I always viewed it as an insult, to be casted for the beta-buxx role. I got casted mostly for that role 90+% of the time, when I still dated. And nowadays, I sometimes get approached/chatted up by women. I always assume, I get casted for the beat buxx role (still).
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 04:20 PM
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I remember being in my late teens and early twenties and thinking thoughts like "No woman will ever want me" For me, kinda similar when young, but more like "why, no woman want me?". That changed in my mid twenties, when I did start to get some lays and short term relationship followed my an LTR in my later twenties. It's highly age related often imo, for normie/regular men. It was and still is difficult for regular looking young dudes, especially if not extraverted or popular, to get females. W…
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 04:12 PM
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Imo, 1950's lifestyle when it comes to "stay at home wife"; doesn't make sense anymore. The reason, it doesn't make sense anymore: * women used to have alot of children (now they have 1 or 2 children, or non); * household work used to be much more labor intensive (now all kinds of household machines, takout food, pre packed meals in th supermarket, etc..); * lower salaries, partially also due to women entering the labor market; * much higher divorce rate then 1950, due to many factors; * financi…
/r/MGTOW02/10/19 12:43 PM
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I assume, some want the experience of having a child. And then, it gets fucked up for a dude (at least in the West). Or he has to be rich, and can go the suragacy route.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 08:58 PM
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True, if a man never wants kids.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 08:57 PM
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Men, have so little control over reproduction. Women hold, all the power. Because it's not just her child that she aborts/kills; it's also his. There needs to be more balance, in the reproductive power between men and women. Now, women hold all the power, and the men has little power. And after the child is born. This imbalance even continues further (in the West). Where again, the men has less power and the women have more.
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 04:55 PM
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Marriage is in essence mainly a financial and assets sharing, contract. Orginially "created", so the parents assets could be more easily forwarded to the children (after the parents died, or beforehand). That part only really works, if marriages last a lifetime. But that (divorce rate) has been in an uptrend already since 1900, and changed alot/extremely since 1960. http://robslink.com/SAS/democd80/us_divorce_and_marriage1.png source
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 04:11 PM
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All my life I have just done things myself because when I needed help, nobody gave a fuck. That's how I feel it is for most men/boys, from early age on. Comparative towards women, plenty of "saviours" seem to stand up willing to try to help or fix her life/problems. Above , let me through a path of: * Screw government and it's high taxation, I as a man will recieve little support from them (although we men do pay most into the tax system); * Don't be afraid to try to help a dude with bad luck ou…
/r/MGTOW30/09/19 07:44 AM
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What do you like to say most here?
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 08:26 PM
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Colltain, has amde a few videos that are rediculously well thought out. This one, is on there as well.
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 06:00 PM
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"You can control anyone with sex or money". Should be: "You can control nearly anyone/99% with sex or money". I'm happy to be the 1% the mayority of the time; because neither can control me most often and I detest the times it does/did. That 1%, often has the "fetish" to wanting to be: free and uncontrolable.
/r/MGTOW29/09/19 05:55 PM
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we're pretty fucked on that front as far as i can tell. Humans will die out, at some point. Also, if the climate never changed anymore. In essence, "we" human beings, are fucked for sure. Everything is destined to be annihalted, at some point. The question, is not if, but only when. It's also 100% sure, that at some point life on earth for humans will become less comfortable as it is now. Like how, life has become alot less comfrotable for many animals and fish, in the current case mainly due to…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm9H4KBL3tg Remeinds me of this song, from when I was young. It's the exact same almost. A nice romantic love story about cheating and lying "Che'Nelle - I Fell In Love With The DJ" With classy lines, like: " Walked into the club with my partner .... Mr. DJ Blew me a kiss, I trip and I fell He call me over knowin? that I'm taken So I went over thinkin? he's just a friend One thing led to another ..... I can't say no when he whispers, "My place" I rode up to Mr. DJ…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 04:23 PM
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Teenage memories. My favourite pornstar when I was a teenager, went that route also. https://www.wikiporno.org/wiki/Sky_Lopez " She is now a devout Christian. "
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 02:47 PM
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My options are beta bux, which I'll pass. I'll never be a Chad due to genetic restrictions. #metoo. Maybe, I could become Chadlite, if I was motivated to become a muscled-man. BetaBuxx, is all I know untill know from my experience. I once had a colleague, that looked like a young Elvis. I could see, what happens with him, a Chad. Dude had a gf, but still often took numbers from women, because women approached him to ask for his number. I saw, it didn't matter much that he lacked all/most thing t…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 12:19 PM
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But I've never had any women really show interest in me. I've never had any of my approaches at bars, clubs, etc go well. I've certainly never had a woman approach me. At younger age. That one only goes well for young guys that either are: great looking, famous, high status, etc.. For most average young guys, this goes shit. Like you had experienced. In my case (15 years ago, average guy), alot of rejections (500 proabbaly overall) and efforts to get a handfull of lays. Then I knew. I get casted…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 10:12 AM
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They don't allow men to post there, in that subreddit. It's even in the rules. Should we also have a rule here, that we don't allow women to post here? Or would that cause a shutdown of this subreddit?
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:59 AM
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Great picture. It says alot of correct things, in just 1 view.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:56 AM
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If this is the dating pool, an average middle aged man has to choice from. Then MGTOW monk mode, is the way to go. Or immigrate.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:54 AM
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And easy for a woman, to make money out of it
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:48 AM
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No pain, No gain. UK, is the 2nd place in the world that really needs trainers to go beast mode on all the fatties. USA, is first place. The fat epedemic is brutal.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:46 AM
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I can only think of 1 main reason: * supporting a woman financially for like a couple months, being: a couple of months before she gives birth to your child and a couple of months thereafter when she needs to physically repair from the pregnancy and child brith.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:35 AM
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they brag about having loads of backup guys to fuck but are still looking for more men. Their strategy, is very double/dual. They need sex ofcourse. So, they will try to keep or have a few Chads/hot looking men for that. It doesn't matter that Chad is a loser or whatever. Most importantly, he needs to be hot looking and good/decent in the sack. A woman, values herself also on how much resources/commitment they can get from men. So, they try to find men, that jump to all kinds of hoops to get wit…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:16 AM
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Wow, she really looked very attractive when she was young. The Wall has happened, when it comes to: getting commitment from desireable-ish men, and getting random sex from a Chad.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 09:05 AM
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a friend of mine suggested me to use an app. I did once use the everydollar app or website. And I liked, how they made it to be: not just a tracker, but also a projector. So you at the biginning of the month, make how much everything should be. And then keep weekly track, if you estimate everything correctly. And can see, where money is leaking. I got annoyed, with the limitations in the app/website. So i made my own new spreadsheet. And that works fine/better. I love, how much freedom excel spr…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 08:47 AM
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I would had choice the words as follow (means the same, but imo more clear) Men are the gatekeepers of relationships commitment*. (* commitment as in giving: resources, time, exclusivity, money, gifts, attention, dates, events, travels, etc...) who is generally better off without a relationship, a 35+ man or a 35+ woman? I agree. A woman at that age, will often have a hard time getting commitment. And a man, at that age, often has a large age pool he could attract sex from (women ranging from 20…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 08:31 AM
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I don't want any relationship with these bitches my only concern is sex, I do not and will not waste time with small talk with them, I get straight to the fucking..... and I only deal with women ages 18 to 28.... I always assumed, this can only be done by men that are like top 30% in the looks department. For the mayority of men (the "bottom" 70% in looks), I think it's not really possible (on a semi consistant bases) to have free sex with decent looking women from 18-28. So your strategy, can w…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 08:25 AM
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And the husband/hubby of that woman, is probably posting in r/DeadBedrooms
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 08:13 AM
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I'll copy the text, if it ever gets deleted: So I was talking to a 5’5” ugly manlet on a paid dating site. He wasn’t cute or anything, but he was an anesthesiologist. Smart, hardworking, and rich can cover up a lot of superficial flaws. Anyway, he asks me if I would be his fwb. I said nah. I don’t even know this guy and that’s the second message he sent. Then he asks me if I just want to be friends I already have friends. I told him if he wants a fwb he can get one on tinder for free. Guess he’s…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 08:08 AM
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These rules. I see as. They rules they set for meeting up with the average male. Then man, that they are not really that into, from the get go. These rules will be out the window, for dudes/chads that make them tingle alot and what not more... So for dudes, still dating. If she gives you a rule like that. She's not that into you; or she is really really desperate for resources because she fucked up financially. It's their hustling guide, to get what they want. When a dude comes along they are re…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:54 AM
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Yeah, it was pretty fucked up. Because, I also loved that woman at the time, I let myself go so for as loving a woman for the first time in my life. Well that backfired. So, then there was both the old feeling of Love, and the hate for what the fuck she did. Love + hate, at the same time. I also experienced the worst part about love, is that it causes one to let the other get away with things they shouldn't be allowed to get away with. Because any other person, who would had dared to do such a t…
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:41 AM
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Forever denying our biological urges to fuck actual women is a pretty good way to unnecessarily restrict yourself. 4 years monk mode now, I am. And the no-sex part, is the hardest part of it from my experience. Especially, over longer time for me. It goes from dry spell feeling, to kinda feeling (or doubting) I might be an incel. And then like to see, if women still digg me so to reassure I'm not incel. Stupid shit like that, happens to me due to i guess the long monk mode. Also because, I know …
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:33 AM
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Great summary, and list. Well thought out. Worthy of it's own thread, sticky.
/r/MGTOW28/09/19 07:26 AM
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I pondered the following concept, in the past. What would be more painfull?: 1. to die after x amount of years (as it is now); or 2. to life eternally. The 2nd option, seemed much much more painfull and scary to me. And made me appriciate the existance of death.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 09:18 PM
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Abortion, of "my" child. Over which I had near 0 control.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 09:12 PM
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I don't get this post. I don't really care for: * Politics; * Climate change hysteria, and the believe that we humans can do things atm to make the future climate singnificantly better or less bad for humans; * Overly emotional teens, with a "save the world" complex.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 08:29 PM
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I see 2 aspects to this Which place do you like better, the UK or the SEA-country? the actual work It seems obvious, that the marketing work seems more appealing to you. So i would go for that. Then, at which location? Does it have to be in UK? or can you also learn it in SEA? If the SEA-country is better for you. Maybe you can combine both?
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 03:41 PM
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You can’t have a dissenting opinion here, and argue it, without getting banned and your post removed. Yikes. I like free speech, thus I don't like this eiether. I would like this sub to be "mens only" type of club, but unfortunately that's not the case or possible. Men among each other, discussing things. You realize research 101 entails controlling for variables, right? Unless it’s a shitty study The ones I read, don't or hardly or very minimally or imo wrongly. control for variables. Most of t…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 03:13 PM
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I recall. The "bring back our girls" world wide campaign. With outrage, celebrities, the whole shabang. When the 276 schoolgrils were kidnapped in 2014 in Nigeria by Boko Haram. Great ofcourse that "the world" wants to do something for these poor girls. ​ Around that same time. Around 10.000 (overall) boys had been kindnapped in nigeria already by Boko Haram. How f** sad, that "the world" doesn't want to do something for these poor boys. Or do very little. That, is how gynocentrism looks like to…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 02:15 PM
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When does the wall start? 90 years old? She can fuck more easily than 70% of males on tinder, what the fuck? Some men, seem to beleive The Wall means: a woman can't find a man to fuch them. And that's not true. For random sex with dudes. There exists almost now wall for women. Women can always find dudes, if they offer free sex. There is no sex Wall. (see experiments, like pig nose woman ( https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903&page=1 )) There does exist, A Wall for women. Whe…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 01:41 PM
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the earth is not fucked...WE ARE Legit. "the earth" can't be fucked, since it has no opinion. If all humans died, due to whatever reasons. The earth, nature, doesn't give a fuck. Because it has no opinion. It just keeps going on, doing "natural stuff". We humans, want our species to life on into eternity, in a comfortable way. Not gonna happen. We are likely speeding up the process, of the life circumstance on earth for us humans to become less good (for animals-fish-etc., we already caused mayo…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 09:39 AM
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men benefit way more from marriage than women do. I read the articles and papers, that claim that. Their conclusions, had mayor flaws imo and therfore false conclusions. I give 1 example, of the mistake they nearly always make in their analyse: Married men, earn more salary/income then single men. From that they then conclude: men benifit from marriage, because it will lead to them earn more salary/income.Here is what they do/get wrong: The man that get married, earned more money BEFORE they got…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 09:06 AM
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Even "riskier". From personal experience. Actually Loving a woman. Because I saw, when I (and other men as well) love a woman, I let her get away with things that one shouldn't let anyone get away with. Love, causes one to have a to high tolerance for bad things.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 08:52 AM
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Why some men are put off. She even gives 1 reason in here post: you should be thankfull she has time for you Whom would want such a relationship, where for her time you should be very thankfull. Whereas your time, well why would anyone be thankfull for that, it's worth less then hers. It's true though. Single mothers often don't have much if any time for you.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 08:45 AM
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Why, did they not add? the: * nice boy/kid; and * the nerds. That's because, these young men are often not above average in looks. So they don't count.
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 08:25 AM
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It was known, that she would go back home to here (2nd/3rd world) country after her work ended. That was after 4 years of LTR. She's the only woman I ever loved, and liked alot. The relationship in plenty ways was or felt good, the biggest downside or negative was: the financial cost of it and the stress that came along with due to that being pretty broke often. I got over it, how? Time. Not forgetting the downsides, because ones head afterwards often tries to romanticise/nostalgic the past memo…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 07:58 AM
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That man has insulted mgtow over and over in his past videos Can conforn, that I saw that in his video. I really don't get the "fight" that we MGTOW and Red Pilled men (that still want to do LTR and have children) make? That Richard Cooper, is also one that "fights" with or insults MGTOW. I don't get it. Because I see onle 1 big difference: 1. MGTOW -> AWALT, stay away from LTR with co-habiation 2. These Red Pillers -> NAWALT, go unicorn hunting, be "alpha" and try to be protect yourself a bit (…
/r/MGTOW27/09/19 07:50 AM
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I dunno, if it's just Tradcons. I suspect, plenty dudes that opted out of dating. Would be okay, and staying the relationship game; if life long relationships and monogamy was common (en thus no divorce rape, alimony and child support). Hence, they dislike things (like promiscuity) that make women less happy and capable for that.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 10:58 PM
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but for women it decreases her worth as a person. It's not that, they are worth less. It's that men, that find monogamy important; know that she will likely be unable to give that and that she will be more likely unhappy in a monomgamous relationship: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/sexual-partners-and-marital-happiness/573493/
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 10:49 PM
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I guess the dude wants and likes this also. Pathetic imo. They will have to kill me, if someone wants to put a leech around my neck. Not gonna happens, as long as I'm alive and capable to fight back.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 09:09 PM
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Totally agree. It's a lifestyle choice.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:56 PM
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Good health. Whom is willing to risk that?
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:55 PM
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Being a average (or better) looking white man in alot of Asian countries. Is like being an girl/woman. Dating market value wise. I dunno that from experience, I never went to an Asian country, but that is what I heared and assume
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:47 PM
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they used me for money, for attention whoring and god knows what. when i expressed any desire - they thrown up their hands in air. The only relationship they can think of is the one of "parasite and host". The mayority of men get this treatment. On a smaller scale, because most are less succesfull and resourcefull; but still the experience is similar. Some men believe, that if one is really good at vetting for the right woman; one can avoid this; and have an relationship that is about equal or i…
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:41 PM
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Good , that CRP moved to Ukraine. A place, where he likely can be more free in many ways. I maybe would move as well, if I had the money to pull it off.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NojCcUoZ9Rg It seems, the older the men the worse they are. It's as if the missed the following happenings: 1st 2nd 3rd 4th wave feminism, women equal opportunity in work and education (women demanded it); etc..
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 08:10 PM
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The marriage vow that usually involves a variation of "for richer or poorer" may no longer apply. Women may now want to add "as long as you make as much money as me." He had to make more money then her. That was mainly always the case already, for the average man. Nothing changed, in that sense.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 11:03 AM
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Negotiations. Her frame and feeling is: "I'm more valuable then you, so you gotta pay up." If he complies with her terms, he basically agrees she is more valuable then him.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 10:56 AM
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Why is that man, dissing men lifestyle choices when it comes to women? Imo, MGTOW is a lifestyle choice, when it comes to aspect of dating/sex/relationships. Why, would every men need to choice the same want and lifestyle with dating/sex/relationships? That makes no sense. I agree. That a man his overall position on the dating market (his Dating market value (DMV)), regularly plays a role on his decision what dating lifestyle to choice. Not many men, can be the Top 20% or 10% or whatever of men,…
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 10:48 AM
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Men are involentairy paying for women. Forced by society (through the laws), into cuckery. This caused women, to get (more) resourcefull. Without directly having to "negiotiate" it out of a man/men. So now, more/most women can say "I don't need A MAN". Because (all) men are doing the providing.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 10:09 AM
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Men blindly swipe right to everything then once the matches come in the filtering begins This. Because men, have 2 dating strategies going on at the same time when looking, overall: 1. get as much random free/uncommited sex as possible (the bar men have for this is low); 2. getting a woman for a commited relationship, when she meets certain qualities/standards. That's why men, swipe yes on almost everything. ​ Women on the other hand. Have in this regard, other dating strategies: 1. get as much …
/r/BlackPillScience26/09/19 09:50 AM
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Biology supersedes culture . I can confirm, for Buddist people it's the same. I seen. They had taken the precepts, but were willing to break them for pussy.
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 01:04 AM
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And top it off, with a false rape allegation from Danielle (she sounds nuts, and thus capable of doing such thing)
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 12:46 AM
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No pain, no gain. I'm a little bit old. I have in my lifetime already been warned for doomsday. I recall, from the top of head: * acid rain (in the 80's) * running out of oil (in the 80's/90's) * millenium crashing all important computers and setting off nuclear bombs (in 1999) * ozon layer will be gone soon and we'll all brun to death (in the 90's) The acid rain got handled, due to some changes. I guess they found new oil or whatever (would like to stop using it though). the only computer that …
/r/MGTOW26/09/19 12:18 AM
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It's true, that global warming isn't political stuff. But it seems, that most things around that have become so. Especially the proposed solutions, that is claimed that should be followed. Solutions that help rediculous little, compared to the efforts and resources that need to be done. While imo, many "low hanging fruit" things that can be done, are overtrown to not be done.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 11:27 PM
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she’s perfectly capable of seeing the issues she’s passionate about I like to quote some things, to counter this statement of yours: " The rational part of a teen’s brain isn’t fully developed " " In teen’s brains, the connections between the emotional part of the brain and the decision-making center are still developing—and not always at the same rate. That’s why when teens have overwhelming emotional input, they can’t explain later what they were thinking. They weren’t thinking as much as they…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 11:20 PM
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For aggressive stuff. I like bitcoin. Certain ETF's are good; likewise funds. Single stocks. investing in local companies, in exchange for equity. High risk for sure. Buying and selling stuff with that money (aka trading); trying to trade up.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 08:09 PM
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Biology, inate genetic "programming". The main pushes from them is: survival and reproduction. Therefore, humans normally thinks alot about survival and reproduction/sex/relationships.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 08:03 PM
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I agree with your comment. What about wasted potential? Wasted, for whom? Not for him (if he doesn't feel like wasting something). Then, it's maybe wasted for: society or family members that want to mooch of him? But what does society do back atm for a man in the West? Not much, if any. Just gotta pay up on taxes, so they can fund their wellfare programms for single moms and other things like that. And society might screw him over, if he ever got married and divorced or has children. And society…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:42 PM
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A bunch of children. That girl, she should not be used for political stuff. Politics is horrible, so horrible that they don't even shun away from using children for their cause. Sad and wrong, imo
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:35 PM
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the introduction of the birth control pill. Maybe if that one never happened, feminism would be small group (like it has been before that).
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:20 PM
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In the clown world of the feminsts SJW and lonatic left; this was if you a girl and she was a boy: RAPE, #metoo, white male privilidge, sexual harassment, etc....
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:17 PM
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And guess who got summoned via an email from the school director for discrimination the next day? Jesus, sorry for what bs you kids have to go through at schools nowadays. Where the adults, are the biggest idiots.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:13 PM
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the following things, are things they shame/criticise. But are not worth of shame, since they aren't bad or part of the innate want of most men: They don’t feel like working in the USA/ Western world What's wrong about that? I don't see what is wrong with that, if one doesn't go on wellfare. They can’t find a decent paying job in the USA/ Western world Then, it's imo smart to move to place where on can. I don't see what is wrong with moving to another country legally, if one can find better work…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 07:05 PM
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Content wise, of what she said. I mainly agree. To add. This a man only club, imo. Therefore women agreeing with MGTOW, can do so ofcourse. But should be kept "at distance" and made clear that we overall dn't want them to join in, when it comes to "joining" in on convo among us. Because that will fuck things up, because it will go bad over time. Hence, it's a mens club.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 06:43 PM
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the only aim I have is to sleep with a Spanish girl. Imo. You have the wrong goal, and I would delete that goal. And you have to few/little goals. Goals, give hope and reasons to get fired up for life (that's already reason enough to have goals, actually achieving them is imo less of an thing to see problem). The one goal you have, is "wrong". because you have very limited control over this one. Also, you can actually fulfill this goal actually, by going to a spanish prostitue and buying sex fro…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 06:33 PM
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Men aren't agreeable by nature To add, to this. It's not all the same for men. Men are on average less agreeable then women. And still substantial portion of men are agreeable. It can be innate, I dunno for sure, but could be or developped like in childhood already. I know, I'm agreeable by nature. It takes me alot of effort ot be disagreeable. I assume, plenty men experience that likewise.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Funny how we not all experience the exact same things. Good to hear different difference experiences.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 05:13 PM
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this guy ...... never once seen him even get close to violent. He took care of his family and works his ass off. Somehow, it seems. these type of men always get screwed over the hardest. Every men that is by nature: agreeable, not violent, considerate, compasionate, and peacefull. NEEDS, to learn and train the following: * being able to be physically harmfull (aka, be in shape, do martial arts, be able to fight, etc..) * being able to be verbally disagreeable (aka, join a debate club or whatever…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 03:50 PM
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This behavior doesn't "make their pussies drier than the Sahara dessert". On the contrary it makes women go absolutely crazy for you. I mean obsessed. Being a nice, thoughtful and caring guy doesn't mean you have to be a beta cuck . What age group of women, is your experience with that with? My experience, it's highly age related. 30+ years women make some moves on me, I feel like usually 90+% of the time they try to cast me for how much resources and usablility I bring in (aka: my plantation va…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 03:40 PM
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I totally understand, how THEIR frame off: "you're the lesser trying to get into her pants. While she is the higher/better one, the prize princess with the gold vagina". And if you went with her. You basically aknowledge that frame, to them and yourself. To protect your own sense of self worth, and self esteem by not giving in to that frame. Which is 1 of the most important things a man has. Is much more important.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 02:56 PM
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Before that one gets deleted or whatever: I used to remember all throughout my childhood, my mother would tell me ‘you better find a rich man if you want that lifestyle’ because I’ve always been a soft girl who wanted a comfortable lifestyle and nice things we couldn’t afford. But, because of the rise of feminism, growing up my goals were to become a career woman, making it on my own and living a 50/50 lifestyle with my soulmate. I’ve been long term relationships since I was 16 (now 22) and all …
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 02:44 PM
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In a way he's doing what he wants/desires the most. The things is, that which he desires/wants is outside of himself, as it is: external validation from women. Why would someone want/desire the most: external validation from women? Probably the things that was input and experienced in his life, combined with ofcourse the biological urge to reproduce. I don't like to question a man his goals, wants, desires. Because it's so personal. But goals like "get validation from women by sleeping with many…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 12:50 PM
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Do we just hate women? I just feel this entire sub is just "women bad". For some this can be true. I assume, for most it is not. The ones that do, probably are most active in posting.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 11:38 AM
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whatever they want to get in the world of 'now'. That's why spiritual concepts like these are immensely popular among women: "The power of now"; "life in the now"; "be present in the here and now, don't think/worry about the future or past". Stuff like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Now
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 11:04 AM
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This sounds like me also. I'm by default/nature: pleasant, friendly, moral and pretty agreeable. So for most people, a pleasant joy to be around. this behavior makes their pussies drier than the Sahara desert. That's also what I experience and know. What I also experience, though. The women that "screwed up" (single moms, debts, etc.), casting me for the "savior beta buxx role" and being pushy on that one. And people in general, trying to take advantage of me. To deal with this, I regularly need…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 10:45 AM
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some of the TRP community see the MGTOW community just as 'butthurt losers who can't get sex and so have stopped trying' That's not nice. That's robably true, for some MGTOW men. Although, it's also probably smart to stop to try to haveing sex of a dude can't get sex. That would be waiste of time then, and frustracting due to lack of results. I think for many/most MGTOW men (at least it was for me). They did, or have done all the trying, and did have sex and relationships. And come to experience…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 09:26 AM
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I guess so. For most guys in my time. "Burning" each other, was the favourity pass time of the guys. Makes me think of the 70's showed that I liked to watch; they had plenty great burns in there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbE1mcohywo
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 09:09 AM
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from the condomless anal. Can you get aids? As I pose his question. I think so, because gays had more aids always then hetro's and they only do anal. So if I was you, I would go condom on the anal activity. Aids is horrible for health. p.s. i know condom sex is pretty shitty, and hardly any better (maybe even worse) then just jerking off.
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 09:02 AM
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selfish instead of selfless. It's really promoted for men, to be selfless. To sacrifise. I experienced that also, and behaved so. As a man you get pressured/shamed/etc.. for being selfish and not selfess. And praised when being selfless. But praise and blame; are just words. In the reality of life and lifestyle; being selfless is praised but the life one has is often crab and one gets taken advantaged off alot. I rather be blamed, and having a lifestyle that gives me a sense of joy and (false) m…
/r/MGTOW25/09/19 08:58 AM
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hit your stride in your 30s and peak in your 40s. If staying not sick/healthy. The 50's are also still great. From mid 30's to late 50's; are a men his prime 20 years. (for women it's from 15 till 35). source: ttps://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/4/8/eaap9815.full.pdf https://bigthink.com/stephen-johnson/study-women-peak-at-18-on-dating-apps-men-peak-at-50
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 09:24 PM
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But overall it made me quite upset. All of them and their lives seemed to revolve around having fun and basically zero worries. In comparison to my bros who had to fight tooth and nail. It kinda feels how unfair is life. For people simply to have it all or non thanks to their birth I recall, pretty similar experience money wise, when i was early 20's. Girls had much more resources at that age. Because parents give girls more money, and they get alot of gifts/money/free stuff from (older) dudes. …
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 09:16 PM
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Define: "good"?
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 09:03 PM
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all without a condom. Can you get sickness from this, likely?
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 08:33 PM
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This sounds mental. You and your wife, sound unstable and irrational. You 2 need to be apart for sure. not on each other lip, every day.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 08:31 PM
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Sounds like the TRP sub would suit you better than MGTOW. I chose monk mode, 4 years ago after my last LTR ended. I didn't even know MGTOW existed. I feel I have nohing to find there, those dudes are basically talking about dating and stuff like that. right?
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 07:38 PM
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generation z. These people don't know how to banter. They seem more often easily triggered though, about opinions.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 07:26 PM
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This last change since 2012. Pretty defenately, dating apps popularity is a big factor. I come from a pre Tinder/dating apps time; and online dating was still seen as for losers back then. This dating apps, has caused for women to be able to get in contact with Chads. Now Chads really gets all the sex. Wheras in the past, due to not all women being able to get in contact with the Chads, they spread out more evenish. Still women dated up back then, but now it's on steriods.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 07:03 PM
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To add. Imo, it doesn't matter what your goal is. As long as it is a gaol that fits a man. Then he will be okay with it. And if that goal is for a man to become the best in his work or mega rich; causing him to work shitload. Then he will probably be fine, and not missing the partying. Because he strives for something, he wants.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 06:55 PM
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Because, thay are nuts.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 06:43 PM
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Unicorns/NAWALT-ism is rare, in my observation. I estimate, 5% of women at best at any given moment. I have also seen NAWALTS, change into unpleasant beings over time.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 06:40 PM
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So you are basically saying(??): - they were sexually carefull and selective; - pleasant to be around and moral; - not shallow on looks. That would be pretty unicorn like behaviour. I have seen women behave unicorn like in my life. But over time, in this Western country where I life, somehow life or society gets/got to them over tine. Often they turned more unpleasant and immoral over time. Ending it over time in like, a divorce rape, or "freeing themselfes" and entering a slut phase, or other "…
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 04:31 PM
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Can semi confirm from my personal experience/my life. - teens and early-mid-twenties. Money. Possesions very small and little money. Nothing is for free for a dude, so basically almost everything I wanted and sometimes needed was to expensive. Girls my age, had more money often (parents give girls more money in general I think). Girls my age, got plenty "free" things/gifts from other guys as well. "dating". Nearly 100% rejection. I was normal decent looking, normie (6/10) not fat and pretty tall…
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 04:15 PM
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How do you mean? Your sisters behave towards men in dating, like unicorns/NAWALTS? What makes them so?
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 03:16 PM
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So happy, he made a video again. He does it rarely. But he is imo a great thinker and makes great content.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 11:49 AM
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She is living the dream. Survival and protection from: work income or welfare if work stops, friends, orbiters and family. Sex, from random hot dudes.
/r/MGTOW24/09/19 10:43 AM
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How many red flags (for a decent man standpoint) can one accumelate? * single mom; * putting semi naked pictures in profile; * tattoos: * only now what she doesn't wants; * aggressive writing style; * dismissing dudes for political orientation * drugs user (420 friendly), thus probably also a drinker. aka, dope head. * cardiB as example. A woman that is trashy and immoral. and criminal violent and steals.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/19 07:06 PM
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Men over 40 can easily get women 10-20 years younger than themselves I agree. At least if they don't have mayor flaws or bagguage like: really fat/ugly; dirt poor; living with parents; etc.. But the mayority of men, don't have these mayor flaws (i assume). so yes. And men value youth and looks alot; it's the Top most important thing for sure. Some may even want to have a child, and can still have them. So at 56 shes fishing for someone who is 71+/- 5 years. Defenately. She has to let go of age l…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/19 06:52 PM
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I recall that horror story of the guys of the Duke University lacrosse team, from the Tom Leykis Show. Tom Leykis was really a great warrior on that case; he constantly stated the names of these women whom made the false accusation. Totally naming and shamming. Which imo was fair in that case.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 06:33 PM
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I'm 35+. It got more horrible comparred to what you stated about mid-late 20's, with same aged women when it comes to bagguage and looks. I totally get, why guys that could pull it off like Leonardo Dicaprio just stay at around the 20 year old mark. I recall, red pill dudes saying. When in you're 30's, and if you are physically fit and still decent/good looking and have your life in order pretty well. Women will persue you. And I do notice, I get persued now when I'm in social situations a littl…
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 06:22 PM
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i get it. the wrong word use, is rampant nowadays.a guy standing up for himself = called an abusive jerk. Talking is called mansplaning. a socialist is called a communist. Etc.. "name calling", Maybe is was always the case already. But it seems more happening now then before. Name calling is an effective way to get attention, and make something simple for the average person with an attention span of 5 seconds. It's pretty sad.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 04:18 PM
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And imagine. For you, it's even dating on "easy mode" compared to the mayority of average men. So you can imagine, the kind of extra BS the average male has to go through, beyond what you experienced.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 03:34 PM
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Jackie! One of the greatest characters in the awesome 70's show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMZSDydNXw
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 02:20 PM
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mediocre should match with mediocre. It's the law of "out of your league".
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 02:20 PM
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people will lean towards giving the 'correct' answer instead of an honest answer almost every time I didn't know that, thanks for sharing that great info. Obviously, for women the correct, not shallow, answer is to say: "I care most about personality and not looks". That's why, I truly only care about research that tracks behavior, and not just only opinion/questionaire.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 01:58 PM
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and you WILL end in a /r/deadbedrooms. sex a woman wants in a relationship/marriage; compared to a man. The bottom axis; is the months into the relationship: https://i.imgur.com/78n2o6c.png This gra[h is from a study, it's so common that it's not conincidence. proabably some biological reasons for it, or whatever i dunno.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 12:08 PM
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How was the study conducted? Researchers analyzed the answers from 68,000 people So it was: question answer. There was no test, to see if the answer match behaviour. Therefore imo, the findings are highly likely likely incorrect. ​ I can't find the grpah. But i do recall a study that tested both: stated and behaviour. Mayor finding: women find looks as important as men in their behaviour, even tough they stated differently. AKA, women don't know themselfes, or they willingly lie.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 12:04 PM
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I'll give you it as I see it, in short. Maybe all the PUA needed. Maybe it's totally oldschool, since I stopped dating in 2011 when I entered in LTR, and after that ended in 2015 I chose to stay single and not date or pump-dump at all. Look good, and work on that. Imo, the most important factor (fat -> lose it. skinny -> go to the gym an get some muscles. shit/flaws in skin -> learn + do skin care. hair sucks -> get the hari cut that fits your face (fuck the trend)). Act extraverted. Easy if ext…
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 11:18 AM
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The next day, I sat down and really thought about it.I think I might be done with pump and dump. I just can't get a boner knowing that deep down these Thots are treacherous snakes. A great read, and scientific results on the subject of: Decision making and being horny. http://people.duke.edu/~dandan/webfiles/PapersPI/Sexual%20Arousal%20and%20Decision%20making.pdf I always had to put in way more effort, to get laid. Because I rarely did/do nightlife stuff like going to bars, clubs, etc..So I alwa…
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 08:42 AM
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I agree. Even if you "heal" your financial situation. The scar is there, in the memory and emotion and feeling. Like the scar of my ex doing an abortion, I still hate that and wear the scar.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 08:13 AM
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you lost me at this guy defending the word "communist". possibly a bad word choice from that video maker, but his reasoning is imo pretty solid. Don't get triggered over word choice. That video maker. Colttaine. Is imo, the best ever MGTOW content creator. Most of his videos, are ridculously well tought out; and backed by statistics.
/r/MGTOW23/09/19 06:56 AM
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An interesting video, and imo must watch. On this subject matter. He makes some good counter arguments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oplNnhOonQk
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 09:06 PM
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I assume. old and old looking men, dating women whom look way better then them. They all/99%, do know they pay for her to be around them, right? It's gotta be so obvious.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 09:04 PM
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women behave like rabid dogs in our society is because men are not a necessity anymore 100% legit, as the main cause. Women don't need men anymore. Because: * since the 1960 with the introduction of the pill they don't have 1 kid before 20 and 5 before 30, anymore; and * they can earn money with work outside the home; and * they can get wellfare; and * etc......
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 08:56 PM
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LOL, and true as fuck. Hamster wheel is like: Women = Good. I'll make up a reason, that what women do is actually good. I don't mind the shallowness. But don't try to make it not shallow. Shallow it is. And nasty it is. A common trait among humans, shallowness and nastiness.
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 08:48 PM
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I was thinking the same. It's not like the bottom 20% of men get treated badly in their teens and 20's. But it's more or less, pretty similar for the "bottom" 80% of men. I for example. Normie as could be in my teens/20's; a 6/10 orso overall. Dating was overall pretty shit in my teens and 20's. A scar, I wear nowadays with honor. I survived this nastiness, and remained/stayed a psychological happy and healthy man
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 08:39 PM
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I hope 4 you; that you can make it work. And if not, learned shit tons of skills in the process. That help alot for the future. Making money online, is something I hope I could do 1 day. So I have freedom to not stay in this 1 place where I life now. Where mostly alot of things are great (western world); but I like to escape regularly from that feminist BS that get forced dwon my troath regularly and all the gynocentrism and overall unpleasantness trown at me when dealing with women below the ag…
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 08:33 PM
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It's not self control dammit. How not? If someone provokes another person. And you try to deflect and talk sense into that person. Not out of fear, but out of concern. That's imo self control. Not that one needs imo, to have that kinda control. And it's also legit if someone provokes physically or threatens to do so seriously; that one starts hitting/defending straight away. But I can respect self control, in the people that have it. It's imo not a bad thing, but a good thing. the brainwashing. …
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 08:28 PM
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That boy, had tremendous self control. He gave her, multipule options to walk away. But she kept attacking> A pity to see, that the boy his SELF DEFENSE punches didn't land great. They didn't land totally bad, but a perfect one on the chin would had been well deserved. As a guy doing self defense against a female. You usually only have time to give 1 or 2 punches before the white nights jump in. So they better land well, but that is difficult to do, for a guy that doesn't do self defense/MMA/etc…
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 06:23 PM
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We (all manly men) are embarassed when women work. Imo, in the West. that boat in general has sailed away a long time ago. The birth control came in 1960. Women started working, and entering the workforce. Wages, stagnant or less (alot less in purchasing power, due to inflation) due to this also, for the past decades. So for most average men, with regular blu color job. Due to that. It's impossible to support wife plus childen on a regular woking class income. So the new regular norm is now in t…
/r/MGTOW22/09/19 09:59 AM
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Btw the guy who made this post might not even be white, yall were just assuming. LOL. Great for calling the out the unconcious habit of thinking: nice house -> must be white. If it's a local black man, I'm very happy for a black mgtow brother to be doing so great. The men in the black community in USA, deffo have alot of good reasons to go MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 04:43 PM
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I saw surrogacy being recomended here for guys wanting to have children. the costs are about a bit under 100.000. Highly dependant, on where one does it
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 04:37 PM
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Darwin Award. Sorry for all the people, whom cared about this man. But it is unfortunately and cruely, the Darwin Award.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 04:32 PM
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These hard ingrained concepts, don't compute with his choice: * man = work slave for my benifits * man needs to be usefull.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 04:23 PM
5

I also hate alot, what China did and is doing to Tibet and the Dalai Lama.
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 04:20 PM
1

I'm from The netherlands. My take. I'm thinking about learning to drive truck-lorry. And I would like to ask is it worth to learn Dutch and drive a truck here, At the moment. there is a hugh shortage in Truck Drivers. So one can find work in that here in The Netherlands. Some companies, even pay the education. I heared. If you come work for them. Somehow the salary hasn't gone up yet much. Salary for truck, I think it will be minimum 1600 and maybe 2000 at best. With overtimes, international stu…
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 03:54 PM
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if that helps you relax for a few minutes. WTF. I wasn't not relaxed ever, and my replies are also relaxed. I thought your OP had some faults in them, comming from the standpoint of: "an average man". You talked about in your last reply, about a man getting women chasing him. Because he, due to hard work, becomes rich, or well looking possibly, or famous, or high status, etc... That was not obvious. And by default the vast minority. Aka, outlier experience. Ofcourse I understand that for exmaple…
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 03:38 PM
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Which one to hate more: * the parents; or * the child? ​ I hate/dislike both. But the parents more. I recall this dude, on a child of his whom was ungratefull. This is the other end of the spectrum. But I overall respect this type of parenting a more then above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 03:02 PM
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Without effort? (x) Doubt. Well you said: "....... She's paying, doing everything, keeping me entertained,.....". So since you said, "she's doing verything"; that assumes that you had to or have to put in no effort or very lettle effort. I really don't understand what you tried to say in above quited reply. FTFY ( "fixed that for you") For regular dudes, dating is time consuming and money Intensive. So, you fixed for me. that for every dude. Including Chads. dating is expensive and time consumin…
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 02:46 PM
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These stories, of men getting pussy for free. Without effort. And the women doing all the effort, and chaising. Maybe, these stories are true. But he has to be, like top 10% of dudes or even higher. So, it's the exception; aka Chad. For the other 90% of "regular" men. It takes plenty of effort/time to date, and some money. Regular dudes, need like: * 38 hours on Tinder (swiping andf chatting) to get a date (source, Volkskrant 2017). * Needs to "chat up" at least 10 chicks, to get 1 date. * men o…
/r/MGTOW21/09/19 01:36 PM
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If you’re a Super Chad, why not use Bumble and let them do all the work and then weed them out, though? Legit, although it doesn't matter which app Super Chad goes to, it's all good for him. The "right" app, is more important for regular men. Super Chad is a bit immune, to regular guys "problems" in that sense.
/r/MGTOW20/09/19 06:46 AM
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Every woman on Tinder. Gets alot of likes and "hi" from men. Because most men, just mass swipe "yes" and see what sticks.
/r/MGTOW20/09/19 06:35 AM
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I did, and do. I dunno what the "it" is in the question. But if it is, behaving nice/friendly/pleasant; then I prefer someone behaving pleasnt even though they don't feel so well/good. It's imo a sign of emotional control, and taking into consideration how ones behaviour affects others and might bring others mood down.
/r/MGTOW18/09/19 09:47 AM
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Experiencing the following in my teens, 20's and early 30's: (And wanting to put my own hapiness first, and persuing my own things) * ingnored in my teens and most of 20's by women; * getting rejected alot and treated pretty badly overall, when trying to date in my 20's. Spending alot of time on fruitless chat ups, dates, etc.. * the few sex, short term relationships I got out of the plenty chat ups, tries, dates; were overall not worth the pain and time invested (so it felt like to me) * manage…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 07:32 PM
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am I in the wrong to just drop her for asking for all the perks It's your life, and your choice. There is imo not really a thing where one can say that "one is the wrong" for not wanting a relationship on certain terms or wanting a relationship at all. wants to do all these things like go on dates, travel, etc in which I am expected to pay for. That was my past experience also when being in a relationship. Although it was more often for me something like 80% me paying, them 20% paying orso. this…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 07:15 PM
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thanks
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 06:50 PM
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So basically she acted nice to you if you bankrolled her lifestyle? She stayed around, because I bankrolled her lifestyle to an extend. When that stopped, she would be gone pretty son there after. She acted pretty nice, basically always. The nice acting was ime a bit indifferent of the bankrolling. The bankrolling caused her to be ther, or to be gone. With Western women, I was more used to: bankrolling their lifestyle AND them acting badly/annoying/unpleasant on a to consistent basis. At the tim…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 06:46 PM
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Good memories + hopeful wishing on opportunities + still lonely & not seeing others regularly oneitis + obsession + depression. LOL. This formula is hillariously funny, and true-ish imo. For me it's like this: Good memories and past feelings + delusional optimism + not seeing other women ===== FROM TIME TO TIME, oneitis + nostalgic/melangolic feeling + wanting to try to get her back or persue other women.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 04:01 PM
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Causation does not always equal correlation. I know. In this case, I do think that there is a mayor or significant correlation. Jordan Peterson and Colttaine made imo a great case for the significant correlation.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 03:47 PM
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Brought in feminism To add to this one. A bit of historical background. Feminism existed more low key, and didn't really take off until the introduction of the birth control pill. Pre 1960; women got children before or around 20, and then basically had plenty children thereafter. With such duties (many children) and harder life, there was little room for the masses of women to concern about stuff like feminism. Just manage to survive and feed/raise the many children. Then after 1960, the birth c…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 03:34 PM
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. If someone has a distorted view of mgtow, he is most likely blue pilled and therefore its not a good idea to discuss with him these subjects. It could get you into trouble. Thanks 4 the advice. Check the definition I found (top link on Google search), when I tried to look it up online: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MGTOW It says: "In reality it means - Men Getting Triggered Over Women. Bitter old divorced men who spend their time whining about women (Especially their exes) de…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 02:41 PM
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I remember some good times we had. Does that happen to you as well ??? Yep, and my LTR was probably plenty better then yours (reading your story). So I probably get it more strongly. Biology in me, really wants to reproduce and push me in that direction, sweet memories is one way it does it. Fuck. It’s nothing rational. But near 100% biological. Your body remembers she was an opportunity (and still is), to reproduce. And since you haven't filled and possibly never will fill that slot with anothe…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 02:28 PM
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Mainly, everything women do is fine. Gynocentrism. Mainly, everything a man does that harms some women (even in the slightest sense) is considered awefull. Gynocentrism. This is what gynocentrism looks like, in action. The wellbeing of the female is what matters most, if not only. That's how it is in society as a whole, atm.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 02:19 PM
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What did you tell/promise her? Imo. You should put her in her place, or break the relationship. Imo, I would advice, to break up. So, you were in commited monogamous reltionship, I assume? So, you basically took yourself of the market in exchange for her to do the same. She did not do that. Therefore you should tell her the following, if you don't wanna/gonna break off the relationship: "I'm now putting myself on the dating/sex market again also, and gonna get me some side pussy. You promised to…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 02:13 PM
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Most of my life I abstained from doing hookups. ... , I don't like sleeping with random women ...... Even if I want I don't think I can find my match because other side is too dirty, degenerate and careless...... This sounds like me. When I did hookups, I really disliked the type of women whom do that. Personality wise speaking, often a big turn off. Unpleasant basically imo, and screwed up imo. So i stopped that, since I couldn't stand going on dates, etc.. so to try to get hookups with these t…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 11:31 AM
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What is written, is highly dependant on the female her age. Ideally speaking, for the people looking for relationships; it's a bit near the 50/50 - ish range. Only: orbiters, pua's, (wannabe) players, blue pillers. They are only comfortable with 100/0 persuing.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 09:39 AM
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Is there a nationality or subset of women that are more hypergamous than others, in your experience? Innate, it's probably all the same. In practise, the poorer/harder a country, the less hypergamous women behave. Because monkey branching then is risky, if that new dude dumps her and she can't support herself and ends up homeless and staving of food. So in action, the wealthiest countries are expriencing the actions off hypergamy most (because if monkey branching fails in the West, the woman can…
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 09:35 AM
1

I actually don't mind the idea of welfare for the unfortunate truthfully, Me too. That is where I actually only want wellfare to be for. If I want wellfare for the truly unfortunate, does that not make me a socialist? It's totally out of control atm, with wellfare. At the expense of the trully unfortunate. Here where I life, there are "sponsor" programms for single moms (basically), and so on. That imo has nothing to do with being unfortunate, that is a (lifstyle) choice.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 08:49 AM
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That is what had mentally always put me of, about being wealthy, retired. I'm afraid of the lack of necessity, leading to passive laizy boring life with the lack of goals motivation and a sense of direction or purpose. I dread that idea. Is this fear legitimate in your observation or expetience?
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 08:10 AM
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Dude is probably also in bonds. I dunno about market crash, making him fucked. The most extreme drop i've seen is 50%. Then he still has 1.5 million. And that drop, also put banks going bankrupt so at the bank the money also wasn't really save then.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 08:05 AM
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I agree. There are women that behave caring and are easy to get along with. In the West, they are very rare. I was with a woman from Vietnam for 4 years, she worked in the European city where i lived. She (compared to West women) was also easy to get a long with, and pretty caring. Also pretty moral. So Basically a very decent human being overall. And i overall still like her. But for me, the cost of the relationship (financially speaking mainly) was to high for me looking back.
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 07:57 AM
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"One way or another you will pay. ". This is 100% true. But the perception of the cost/pay can be very different dependant on ones income and wealth. Now OP, makes like 10.000 per month. And lets say he spends 500 per month on dating/women. The cost of that 500, will probably not feel so much for him. It's like 5% of his income. Now, regular Joe/me in the European country where I live. 2200 per month income. I have left over after: fixed costs, transportation, food, some saving, some retirement …
/r/MGTOW17/09/19 07:42 AM
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anyone know any success stories ​ I know 2 men. Netherlands. I dunno about success stories. It is less bad then Dutch women for sure. * One I know vaguely. He is with an Ukrainian woman. They probably together for like 7 years orso. They seem pretty happy together, on the outside. She is way out of his leaugue, looks wise. She is always very friendly, puts great effort into her appearance, and a great host when I visit them. I defenately know, she puched him to buy a bigger home. He was probably…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 05:32 PM
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I agree, she reacted well and the trying to control that man his hand with the gun was the best move. But the lack of mere physical strength that women have, always makes it not so great. She can do the right thing, technically speaking. But plain strength, can often just break to superior technique. Therefore, I prefer male police men alot over female.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 11:23 AM
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The closest friend that I do have, at 33, I also sense the largest gap ever between us. We are now grown men. That is common, that lifestyle and interest may be alot different, for a period of time. It can be temporairy, often. But I do think if a dude is/was there in the bad times, then he/she deserves browny points and to stick around with low level contact (when different lifestyles are there, etc..) but/and to still be there for each other in bad times. The thing that srewed us over, is coma…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 11:15 AM
1

I notice the same. Most people only there around me, because of what I contribute(d). Not because of me, 95+% of the time.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 10:47 AM
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Taxation is theft, because the money take is largely wasted via bureaucratic bloat and ineffective programs. I agree 100% why in the hell would i support communism lite (aka socialism aka first step towards communism) In my understanding, communism also means the end of democracy, and the end of personal possession (state ownership of everything). SO there is some difference, in communism and socialism, also alot of common things. Why support socialism lite? For the really unfortunate, not due t…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 09:41 AM
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I dislike the American tendency to call socialism, communism. Because there is alot of difference between it. Imo, in short, *communism is always very bad. *socialism is most regularly also bad, in the way that it causes: high taxation on the productive people, compleciency of the wellfare receivers, wellfare will often favour women and single mothers over men alot, waiste, big gouvernement, bureaucarcy, etc.. But the kind of socialism, where we give welfare to a man that fell of a ladder at wor…
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:24 AM
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I really hope this guy does not get his carreer / business ruined. If i was the guy i would choice to go along with it; and build on the persona/concept of being the: bad ass tough trainer whom takes no excuses. Maybe that way, he could even benefit from this attention.
/r/MGTOW16/09/19 08:07 AM
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What a stupid bitching. His bootcamp, will prbably get her injured because he does all types of excersises with jumps and stuff. Then whe will likely break her ankle or whatever. I read about this great trainer. The following, from a student of his: "Buffmaster training is not for the faint hearted, during his years Gary has had 44 people be sick, 7 cry & 4 run off during training never to return.... " So great, that this coach filters out the unmotivated fatties bringing down the dynamic pf the…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 07:20 PM
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If personality really mattered she would have loved you when you were at your worst and didn't have much money and status. I still remember and carry with me the scars. Of the rough dating history I had in my teens, 20's, up to early 30's. I was able to experience and get all there is relationship wise in that time: random sex, short term reationship sex, and a long term relationship. The LTR was the least worse in nastiness, but the worse in stress and burden. The dating at that time, was nasty…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 07:06 PM
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the right is way to conservative personally I believe in things like separation of church and state, I’m pro choice and I support gay marriage and the legalization of weed but the right in America doesn’t like any of those things I agree with all of your standpoints actually. Yet, if I was in the USA I would still choice to vote Republican. Not because I like them so much. But, because I find the following tiems more worse for me personally, which is what the Democrats stand for in my observatio…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 06:43 PM
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What else is there to choice, for a white guy in USGay? The only place a regular white guy can go atm (voting wise) in the USA, is the Tradcons. The left is in total hate with the white man; or at best doesn't care even 1% about the white man. Everything they do, is with in mind: is this good for the following people: women, minorities, immigrants, foreign countries. Men and especially white men, thay are not accounted for. Luckily here in The Netherlands we have like 10 parties to choice from. …
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 06:19 PM
2

Do you guys have a guilty pleasure that you get to enjoy after gyow? Overall stress reduction. But for realz. Having a lazy day every now and then. Just hanging on the couch, laughing at comedy shows I like on TV and watching dumb kids shows and stuff like that. Basically being unproductive and a laizy ass for a day. Since I always at least aim to be: productive, effective, doing meaningfull stuff; toughen up when things are difficult, push myself to be physically active, eat healthy, and take w…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 06:05 PM
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This kinda stuff. Will get Trump elected gain.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 05:57 PM
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it's so frustrating. Unbelievable It's basically an insult when these women try to get with you. I personaly can semi respect it, because I have a hardtime to dislike the hustlers attitude of not being afraid to shoot for gold against the odds. SO OBESE. I'm pretty fit. Yeah man, your body is top 10% (9/10) of all men for sure. And these fat women body, is only top 50% (5/10) at best of all women in USA. But that is due the high obesity rate in USA, and many other places. The gap is hugh.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 05:08 PM
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WHAT I LOOK LIKE VS. WHO I TEND TO ATTRACT. That is out of wack. I once read, that people (both men and women) tend to try to date 25% upwards of their own level (soirce: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaap9815 . But these examples of women you posted, are defenately pushing more then that 25%. It's more like 4's hitting on a 7. By the way, Great work on being beast mode, in body. That must have not come easily.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 04:31 PM
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The exaggeration is big there. Stuff like "... choked him out and dragged him outta my room." Impossible for 99.9% of women to do such a thing. Or then man must be a migged, or she must be pro mma fighter.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 03:45 PM
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And that is nowadays, how plenty girls that start out being decent/moral/"good"/fair/etc. nowadays; get changed over time into unmoral/dispicable persons. This paradigm of: men = bad and needs "punished" gets trown onto boys and girls so much that it will become internal to some extend. Even unconciously.
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 03:33 PM
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I'm 4 years now monk mode mgtow, by choice. I had to and have taken efforts to keep women away from me, in that sense. My reason for this choice was and is: how brutal dating was in my 20's (very high rejection rate, alot of effort for nothing/little, often women trying to use me for personal gains at that time); and how I found my last LTR quit expensive and filled with duties/efforts and extra stress of which the returns where modest at best and not really worth it imo. Maybe dating in my curr…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 03:25 PM
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My point is you're going to have to learn lessons the hard way, YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE, but it's how we manage our losses that make us great traders. Leave your emotions on the table and respect your stop limits. ATM $2500 down on a $7000 input (started about 3 year ago). I know losing. Hopefully winning also 1 day, I will know. Basically 1 copany stock trade fuked me over the most, I'm down on that one bascially only (aboy 3500-4000). I doubled down on that one, many times in it's downfall the la…
/r/MGTOW15/09/19 09:06 AM
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If I lived just 20 miles down the road in another county, it could have very well been lifetime alimony. Wow a lifetime, and I guess that was more luck then concious choice (to not live 20 miles down the road).
/r/MGTOW14/09/19 03:21 PM
2

It gets to me. It's normal, that getting disrespected or tossed aside gets to one. It's disrectfull. It's an attacack on one own sense of self esteem and self worth. Only people with really strong sense if self wworth, get little affected by this. It's rare for a person to have that. I sure know, I don't.
/r/MGTOW14/09/19 03:19 PM
1

"Her ex ......" It should probably be: "One of her exes ...."
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 11:55 PM
1

#metoo. And also for since I stopped doing LTR on top of that as well. You think dating is expensive? Well it depends on how many dates you go maybe. But i found LTR to be more expensive financially. The LTR was overall more enjoyable then dating, but more expenive as well. Dating was a bitch for me.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 07:18 PM
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Why the fuck am I so mad if I know this is female behavior? The headaches for the pussy sleeve. Wtf. You must be young. And so must she be.You just experienced: how high her sexual/dating market value is; compared to your low your sexual/dating market value is. In this moment.It was the same for me, when I was younger. Teens and 20's. I come from pre dating apps time. I had to chat up at least 300+ women for sure, before I got my fist lay. From women where I got phonenumbers or emailadresses fro…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 07:09 PM
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#metoo
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:43 PM
3

Nice! Really surprising and great that you "got away" with paying only 6.5 years of alimony on a 20 year marriage. I always tought is was at about 50% of the duration of the marriage in USA often?
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:39 PM
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That's about how it happened for me. In short: 1st period. Very hard time from teen to 25 in dating, basically jist all rejections and no sex/relationships. But I still beleived then that if I found a woman that would like/accept me, it would be a great experience 2nd period. 25-30: dates, sex started happening. But I got dumped quickly usually. Still alot of rejections basically. The efforts compared to the gotten sex wasn't worth it in my estimation. But I still beleived then that if 3rd perio…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:31 PM
2

seeing it's bullshit by seeing it all and feeling it all I think to observe so. Most people only learn through pain and experiencing dissapointment. Many people have no memory for what people said/old and teached them, but do remember for their whole life what the experienced by feeling (like: pain, etc..).
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 03:08 PM
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Yep. She hit JACKPOT!
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 12:41 PM
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What if the father of the child, buried his new born baby in the backyard? Defenately decades of imprissonment. Possibly life time, or death penalty. Gynocentrism in VERY HIGH the criminal justice system; and all kinds of other courts.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 12:38 PM
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I get your analasis. And agree, it's better to be objective like you are. I was refering and speaking in my post the to, the average men though. The mayority of men. The type of men, we and women are most likely to encounter. And this average type of men, has opinions like this: "sex/love making, is the ativity that gives the most meaning, hapiness and pleasure in life" Graph: https://i.imgur.com/wr1WU8Y.png Source study: https://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/bitstream/handle/10092/8040/thesis_fulltext.pd…
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 12:13 PM
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He is getting married though, which is a huge mistake for him. I heard that too. I can totally see, how that woman "weasled" her way in. She started taking care of his 3 children, and probably making sure that the kids like her. And his soft spot for his children, made him porbably wanting to try to keep this woman around for his kids. Maybe, possible, even inconciously, she did this pre-planned, so she hits jackpot.
/r/MGTOW13/09/19 11:42 AM
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Ronaldo, has a soft spot for children for sure. His first 3 children he had through surrogacy, and he recieved the sole guardianship of these children. That's the way, a rich man can do it nowdays if he wants to have control over the proces and raising of the child. Unfortunately you ned to be wealthy to pull of this path.
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 08:30 PM
1

I agree it's like this in the West. I can understand that some men need at least (sexual) female validation once in their life, or romatic validation or whatever one should call it. To kinda know, what that is like. And to know, one isn't incel, but by choice going celibate or the hooker parth. Knowing that it's an option (a relationship), that one as a man has but choices not to do. I dunno why, but many need that. Incels are regularly pathetic as fuck, and when they choice mgtow they don't do …
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 04:02 PM
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Prove me wrong. The "you" in my quoted reply. Was not adressed to you, but to the post of another user (below) named: ultrasuperthrowaway
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 02:59 PM
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My experience looking back (now 35). As an average looking male, and not rich. Aka, normie. And all the dating advice one needs: below 25 year old normie man. It's numbersgame, with very bad odds, like less then 1%. Due to the bad odds, it costed me alot of time and effort to get some. Way to much actually, but you know libido was tronger. Just meet enough women, per month, be a bit social, and ask for someting to show interest. Less then 1% will stick, so meet enough. It's all about the numersg…
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 02:52 PM
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Most immigrants here, Indian normies included, support the left. It's predictable though, that they vote left. Because the left tells immigrants the following things: You're welcome here. You're special, and should be given priviliges. free welfare money for you (most immigrants come from a country with not much wellfare or taxation, so they have no concept of where welfare money comes from. They think it just comes freely, or the government can just print free money or borrow without having to …
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 02:30 PM
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(see my answer above to user TheLastMgtow, maybe you could reply or add info on the posted questions).
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 02:13 PM
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old millionaire if that means being a slave when im young. millionaires waste half of their lives pursuing a number, and before they get rich they get old, fat, can never buy your time and your health back. This is a legitimate point, imo. There are things one can enjoy at youth. Which might make that one doesn't/can't spend the time to get rich. When young you can enjoy things such as: party all night long, hanging with other young people, making easy contacts and chilling with youngster and do…
/r/MGTOW12/09/19 02:11 PM
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netflix got all the great comedians to do their show there, nowadays. Unfortunately, i don't have netflix.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 07:41 PM
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I can’t find a real definitive conclusion to it. While it is a commonly accepted “fact” among many men in the manosphere. As far as lifetime sex partners goes, the average in many reports seems pretty low among women. But there is also a lot of lying about it, ofcourse of women on how many sexual partners they have had. As far as definition, goes. Imo, the cockcarousel means: "women casually sleep around (in teens, 20’s sometimes up till 30’s) with men, without demanding long term commitment or …
/r/BlackPillScience11/09/19 07:25 PM
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If a woman can pull it off, to find a well earning man to marry and impregnate her. It's becoming more rare though, then in the past. Men are smarter in that way then the previous generation.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 04:32 PM
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The problem is in America at least, the system is rigged for women to be able to take you for everything you are worth. True, for most of the Western world. Like Europe and so on, also. And culture, also works against staying in a life long in relationship alot. would it be better to marry a women from another society that maybe doesn’t have the same mindset as American woman? That would give you a better chance. But you can't take her out of that society, and should go life there with her if yo…
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 03:24 PM
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she is angry at me all of the time because I don’t make enough money. I think the problem might be, the concept in your relationship of: "my (wife) money is my money; and his (husband) money is our money". Is that true? Renegoting, is needed it sounds. Reltionships is transactional, and due to unclear agreement of how much you will bring into it financially there is room for constant bickering. If I was you, I would negotiate an amount that you will bring in every month for the family. (and if y…
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 02:47 PM
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She wants a stable kinky dude. No such thing extists in 1 person. It's either: * a stable dude that is "boring"; or * a fucked up broke unavailable dude that is kinky. Can't have it all. One needs to learn to priorotise. But most young women can't or won't; and want it all. So they end up, with nothing at all.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 02:26 PM
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This make me always think of this clip from one of my favourite comedy show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8UgOvJVol8 ​ I'm comming from a place, where no one has guns almost, so it's not something in my realm of experience.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 02:15 PM
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Dating, is often: * He wants her pussy/sex; * She wants his resources and/or commitment. All that happens in the process, is both the man and the woman negotiating/bargaining for the best deal. I don't see the problem with a dude not paying up; it's part of his negotiation. I don't see the problem with a woman not giving up her sex; it's part of her negotiation. If one doesn't like the negotiation, or what is negotiated for. Then one can leave the possible deal behind, and walk away. What I don'…
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 01:37 PM
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I know. As pittifull self defense. I'm from a country where English is not the language. And my ccomputer/browser doesn't give autocorrect or grammar check in English, only in my native language. So everything I write, is unchecked.
/r/MGTOW11/09/19 08:35 AM
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Don't talk to yourself like a doomer. And don't question the purpose of doing everything. Do talk more possitive.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 11:46 PM
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LOL. A woman tried to defend in an article why 36 year old pussy is still good: https://medium.com/@brookemarin/dave-chappelle-everybody-knows-theres-no-such-thing-as-good-36-year-old-pussy-64152f303689 ​ Totally delusional article, since she doesn't measure it correctly and measures it by if random dudes still wanna have sex with her. It's delusional, because the test of the worth of your pussy as woman is NOT: if men want to have sex with you. But it is: are men willing to give up commitment a…
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 08:10 PM
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Every since I gave up finding a relationship, I start to think being short is so much better in life. It's a big release. To not turn into this guy, is very important and you're doing a great job at it. The frustration of that guy, is real, but probably mainly related to women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWfRu5YQahs
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 07:55 PM
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This article, and what seh writes is pretty legit. The blaming it on dating apps, is false. But it's easier to blame it on some app, then on people or in this case women. The thing is. Men are interested in sex firstly and mainly. Women are interested mainly at some point and overall in: commitement and resources. For women to get commitment. They would need to bargain, sex (when they are young and still good looking) for commitment and resources. And not hand out sex, without commitment and res…
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 07:44 PM
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That 1 interview with Palin, that they didn't have to change even 1 word for SNL. That was funny. I watched back in the days in shame nailin palin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-OCDexYrU
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 04:37 PM
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Men are the gate keepers of commitment (like: exclusivity, resources, marriage, etc.). Women are the gate keepers of sex. A marriage strike of alot of women, isn't something that bothers men, in general. Most men would be happy if they could get what they wanted without marriage or commitment. Like how a sex strike of alot of men, isn't something that bothers women in general (as long as there are enough Chads/fuckboys to pass around/share). Most women would be happy if they could get what they …
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 04:20 PM
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This sounds WEAK.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 04:11 PM
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The recollection of this woman, about what happened and was said. Sounds 1/2 true, and 1/2 false. Highly romaticised for sure. 2nd-ly. The Dalai Lama was since child taken away, and made to become the next Dalai Lama. he has been garded, since childhood not to be involved with women on a romantic level and to have distance with women. So, he has no experience with: dating women and having romatic relationships with women. So ofcourse he knows little (for sure not from experience) about the battl…
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 04:08 PM
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men who were too focused on their goals to waste time on women's bullshit. For most men, the mayor reason (beyond surfival) to aim for goals. Is because they get validation from women (when they have resources). Other wise they wouldn't do much. Women as motivators for most men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dowSfa-gkcE&t=56
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 02:52 PM
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I cheked the gofundme page. I would expect it be 100% males doing the donation. Roughly, is was only 75% orso i see. Some women also donated, i dunno for whatever reason.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 02:44 PM
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Does he pity that you won't give him a grandchild? That the genes line stop with you?
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 02:41 PM
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It's a funny clip. At the same time. Putin has not much in common with MGTOW; and he is a brutal leader. He probabaly was involved in the murders of plenty opponents as well as journalists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia#Under_Putin
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 02:38 PM
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My best friend who just went through a divorce is trying to give me dating advice, LOL. And WTF?
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 10:27 AM
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and sprinted out of the club. Great tactic, when having just defendd yourself against a violent woman/women. Because if you stay around, the following mught happen likely: * white nights coming in to attack you (in group ofcouRse, never 1-on-1) * the police coming in, assuming you did wrong (you're like 10 point behind from the get go). Probably arresting your ass, and having to spend/waste alot of time defending yourself (probably in court also), and you might probably lose still (even though i…
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 10:18 AM
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In all honesty: isnt that actually redpilled? Knowing the importance of looks, is red pill (since, most blue pill men think women only/mostly care on the "inside" of a a man). Bettering yourself, for the sake of a woman not leaving you/dumping you for a date. Pretty blue pill imo. Pussy on the pedestal; and doing something to get the all glorious pussy and fighting/competing with other mwn for the golden plated pussy. That's imo, blue pill. ​ So it's both. But I hate the aspect, of cathering to …
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 10:11 AM
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Yes, it's more hassle. I think on should only go the classic route; of one likes to work on that car oneself or one doesn't mind paying plenty in maintenance costs to a local garage whom will give the car the regular care. My brother has a 1960 Buick; and there is always something to repair/upkeep. But he is a car mechanic, and likes working on it. I once had a 1980's Mercedes, as a 2nd car. I didn't like working on it and didn't havea garage. And I didn't have the money to spend on great mainte…
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 12:12 PM
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Great. Do you also have classic cars? I would love to at one point make or buy a 1950's hotrod Citroen Traction Avant. That model is imo very beautifull; but I would like to trun it into something with more modern-day power and a little bit more comfort.
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 11:35 AM
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It sounds like this woman, really wanted to flee the home of her adoptive family. I dunno, if that's the only or main reason, she ended up with you. But that could be. I understand her, getting away from abusive care givers she needed to adopt a hustler attitude to get out of there. She had tough childhood, and is a good hustler because of that. But I also think, that she is damaged due to what happened to her in her childhood. This is to much, for a partner to be able to help her with. She need…
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 11:16 AM
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Especially young women. In their peak dating market value years. Like to express their "sexuality". Part of that is dangerous relationships and sex. That is what gangsters/criminals/thugs provide. Also these man have the following things that women find attractive: * status (feared on the streets. walk with th air of that they would or could fuck someone up if they provoked them) * Dark triads.
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 10:53 AM
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With your internal dialogue; there is alot of room for imporovement. You view things wrongly. You estimate you must be still a young man; and she is still a young woman. (being a young man, is actually the worst time in life, when it comes to dating-women for most men (due to women having their value then, and young men having their lowest value then). Admits to me she was using me for emotional support . Wtf the pain. So she is the asshole; and you feel pain? Better be happy/relieved; that this…
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 10:45 AM
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But how was it growing up only with her? Do you feel like you missed anything? It was okay-ish, growing up with only her. She had new partner, whom kinda took on the stepfather role for me. I didn't miss anything from my father, because all memories I had from him were mainly bad. because my father was/is not good. I was relieved mostly I recall, when my mother went away from my father. So i didn't have to fear anymore getting beaten, scared or whatever; for no reason or for no good reason. My f…
/r/MGTOW09/09/19 10:20 AM
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any MGTOW raised by single mothers here? half-ish. She had a new partner straight out of her marriage. i was like 5 years old. She nver lied together with her new partner though. How was it? Overall, its was okay. What do you think about her? Overall I'm okay about her. Plenty downsides, and also good sides to her. She must have been an absolute idiot when she was younger to have ended up with my father; everyone with some sense found him many unpleasant things. Only after she was like 50+ could…
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 08:33 PM
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This is defenately true. For the man, it's much more often: suck it up; you are the asshole; etc.. For the women, it's much more often: you deserve and can get better dump his ass; etc..
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 07:53 PM
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No situational awareness apparently. Yep, and more importantly imo. No self esteem, no sense of self worth, no sense that their time is worth anything, not being bothered at all that someone wastes their (invaluable? (in their eyes) time. etc..
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 12:03 PM
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Here the actual link to the study: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jomf.12603 I checked it out a bit. And seeing the sample group, they used. The title should be: ".... hurting American 27 year old (or above) women marriage prospects." ​ (because they used the data of women getting maried. And the average age of marriage for females was about 27 year old. I really doubt, that an attractive-ish 20 year old woman has any shortage of marriage options from men that are doing economi…
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 12:00 PM
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I like to add, the age component of women. To this. (Because I doubt a good/decent looking woman that is 20 years old, has no shortage of male option of financially stable/succesfull men willing to marry her up and start family with if she would go for that.) What age group of women, does this statement of "shortage of economically-attractive men for marriage" apply to?? We have to look at the female sample group, they used for this study: Methods This study identifies recent marriages from the …
/r/BlackPillScience08/09/19 11:51 AM
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Legit.The list for plenty women past 30 is like: * Economically Unattractive; * Income Unattractive; * Asset/debt Unattractive; * Physically at least less attractive; * lifestyle Unattractive (when they have children already); * accumalated emotional baggage Unattractive (psychological and personality); etc...
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 11:08 AM
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The things is. The TradCons, are: 1. the biggest movement/political group (that can actually make something happen); 2. we share alot of reasoning behind todays problems. So for that reason, I would vote and stuff a bit in line with and support Tradcons (politically speaking). It's the least worst option out there, atm. The Tradcon have different solution then us, to these problems. They want to hope that they can bring back the time before 1960, when there was no birth control pill and sexual "…
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 11:00 AM
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See how many men stayed, after finding out this was a setup like this? All these men have way to little self respect/self esteem. And to much thirst for sex, romance, or female validation.
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 10:54 AM
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I'm generating much higher $$$$ in my investments than it costs on my 15 year 3.25% fixed rate mortgage, That makes sense. Although to add. The 3.25% you "make" by paying of the mortgage is 100% risk free. So it's 3.25% risk free. Whereas the investements, also needs to be counted a discount for the risks. But then still, maybe you're an awesome investor and make like 10% upwards; so then i should stfu and let you do your thing. I self started investing (stocks, bonds, etc.) with some savings an…
/r/MGTOW08/09/19 10:35 AM
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my investments have grown another 30k to now sitting at 280k. my mortgage has dropped to only 300k What is the reasoning behind this (not paying of the morgage - extra, but keeping the money in investements)?
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 08:11 PM
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First see, then believe. Family court has a tendency to come up with stupid nonsense reasoning/backdoors, so to rule in favor of the mother. Gynocentrism > Laws
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 08:05 PM
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Great. I hope you can find ways, to keep your hormones/libido/biology/etc. from not falling into and ending up in a similar sutuation you just fleed.
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 08:01 PM
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To add another possible reason, i read somewhere in the past in a paper, about the "5 years itch" (many seperations around the 5 year mark. Genetic defercity. When a woman has sex and child with mr. A. And mr. A is commited. It might take 5 years for the child has a good change of being able to survive to adulthood. For new children after that. Here genes have a better change of survival into the (longer) future, if they mix with the genes of another man then her current man and father of her ch…
/r/BlackPillScience07/09/19 08:01 AM
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Japan suffers from: * rediculous working hours (and needing to see co-workers after work) as the standard (being work slave is real in Japan); * alot of old people, because of massive drop of births over the last 60 years (due to the comming of the birth control pill and women all started taking them). Leading to big burden, taxation and pressure on the current ones working; * high cost of living * hugh country debt (on top of the hugh (future) old age pension money liabilaty) For solving these …
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 08:02 PM
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Thanks for the youtuber bar bar sugestion. I'll check it out, never heard of the guy before. I like these philosophers as well. There points are often well prepared, backed with data, ligical. And also they often see more then just 1 factor at play; and can see it from a larger perspective. That's regularly lacking, from people/MGTOWers that feel thay have to post avideo everyday. Then there is no room for that kind of pre-research
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 02:29 PM
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That’s why I enjoy Jordan Peterson’s discussion about how birth control was one of the most powerful things that changed women’s lives.. not feminism #metoo. I recall and enjoyed that video alot also. Also Colttaine, made an extremely good video about how much of a game changer the birth control pill was. I'll share the link of that Colttaine video here. This is starting from the point where he used an annalogy (borring at first, but only lasts for about 3minutes) to drive home his later points:…
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 01:16 PM
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The researchers hypothesized that potential husbands for the single women had * an average income nearly 60 percent higher than the actual pool of available men. T * hey were also 30 percent more likely to be employed and * 19 percent more likely to have a college degree compared to current bachelors. In other words, the researchers say there’s a shortage of available men who are economically attractive, *From the female perspective: When being average-ish as a man, isn't good enough. Standards …
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 08:45 AM
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Wrong. The main reason for the drop in marriages in the last 60 years. The Birth Control Pill. After the introduction of the birth control pill in 1960. And it emmidiately becoming very popular. The consequence was that soon thereafter marriage rate dropped alot. Other things that changed short after the pill came, as well: more divorces, women having 1st child at later age, drop in child births, women going to study more and longer, women participation in the labor force increased massively, wo…
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 08:08 AM
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No clutter.
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 08:01 AM
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aving kids outside of a stable family is a death sentence. Women would instantly seek marriage instead of sleeping around and trapping men with an Ooops. This is largly how it was, before the contraceptive pill came in 1960. People, both men and women will start with having sex in their teens alread. Hormones are to strong among the young, for most to stay celibate. Before the contraceptive pill, women haveing sex would/will lead to a child. They were still young, and would then marry-stay with …
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 07:57 AM
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This is full of BS, and out of tune with reality. stolen the throne to huge corporations businesses She believes, that was a time that good men managed to rise to the top of big corporations? WTF. To get there, one needs a personality of: workaholic, great at office politics, sucking up, stabbing in the back, etc.. It's often nasty, to reach the top. Nascisists, often gets prmoted the quickest. https://www.forbes.com/sites/amymorin/2016/09/09/narcissists-are-more-likely-to-get-promoted-but-do-th…
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 10:21 PM
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How to get past the desire for sex/a gf? The desire for sex, and the desire for a gf. Are both quit different for me. The desire for sex, for me is more short term/flashes. And gone: after an orgasms, when tired, after eating, mid day dip, etc... I get past these; by just sitting them out, or with self help. Some do it with escorts I heared here, or some do one night stand things here I read. The desire for gf. Is for me more the desire, for validation and desire to be loved and part of a team. …
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 02:13 PM
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Living in the forrest, like some Buddhist monks do. Is really next level monk mode. Unbelieveable that some can supress their urges, related to possesions, safety, and sex to such an extand and for such amount of time. I can totally get, that some break at some point. It's so restrictive.
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 08:03 PM
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if a woman hits u, we can't hit them back? This statement, has 2 aspects. 1. what you can do, before society joins in to give it's opinion. 2. what society will think, and how they punish you. Aspect 1. One can give a quick response, and defend yourself by punching back, Aspect 2. Society will overal (in the West at least), look to punish you. Overall, society will be against you. One needs luck, a good case and reasons, and people need to really dislike her; and then maybe you might not get pun…
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 07:55 PM
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She told me all her mates had gotten The hive mind. Is extremely high among women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNLNzoogBKU *a great video on the female hive-mind.
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 07:36 PM
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25-30 goons ??? She hired criminals?? I doubt that a woman would pay/buy criminals. Probably more her army of orbiters??
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 07:25 PM
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Do you feel the invested time, effort, etc..; was/is worth it? Reading it, for me it seems the reward on the investments and risks seems low.
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 11:00 AM
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Imo, the main problem is. Is that the dude in the video, doesn't have the beleive that he will never get married. he doesn't see the risks of marriages. And thus that dude leaves the option of marriage open, that he is okay with getting married. And women want marriage often, so she will then go for that. Even when I was dating and doing relationships, in the past. I knew for sure, I would not get married. And told women early on.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 04:57 PM
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I worked out, ate healthier, made some online friends, and accidentally fell in love with one. Accidentally! LOL
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 04:46 PM
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To add, actually looking at it. From "poor" up tull "upper middle class", the difference is neglectable.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 04:41 PM
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When i knew her, she was kind and considerate, until, "Unicorns". They change their behaviour and attitudes into hive minded women, most often, at some point in their life. And it's pushed nowadays, (with the help of the birth control pill allowing pregnancy risk free sex), that to be promiscuous in your peak "dating value" years as a woman. To have many boyfriends, dates, orbiters, even random sex, gather alot of attention, etc.. That's the norm. Even when you have pretty nice/decent teenage gi…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 04:26 PM
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Yep. They had no idea of the consequences the birth control pill would have on: * divorce increase, * cock carrouseel becoming a thing, * number of sexual partners, * birth rate dropping below replace level, * increase in taxation for government spending/wellfare, so to support women in their single (parent) lifestyle, * women being more present in the labor market, causing salary to be stagnant or dropping when you add in inflation/purchasing power * men becoming 2nd class, losing alot of value…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 03:59 PM
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Sorry to say. But I hate what Sweden stands for politically speaking. It's the most gynocentris country in the world. The hating and treating a man badly, just based on his gender. Is the worst in Sweden. It doesn't matter what type of man you are, what you achieved, how the content of your character is. You're disliked, just for being male.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 03:15 PM
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20 years ago during the pregnancy and birth of one of our children it was the worst rough patch we have ever been through. We fought. Tiny things turned into big ones. Stupid fights. I was at fault for some things too. She explained that one day she just realized during this time that she no longer loved me. She claimed she originally planned to just leave me but She then decided to fake everything and that’s when things started to get better. This is, imo. Her falsely justifying her cheating an…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 03:04 PM
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They dragged the man to court for that! rediculous. I also hate Sweden, for what they did to Julian Assange. I like that man alot. And ofcourse some nonsense sexual misconduct thing "happened", in the land of the pussies, Sweden.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 02:47 PM
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She basically, suggests, unicorn hunting?? Of that's the case. One could try that. It will take alot of time, effort, energy, costs, money, and frustration often. And plenty other risks, if one mistakes an unicorn/pretty perfect fit for you. And it down the road, turns out that she decides to change. Life comes in phases. And women go through alot of phases these days, in their lives. A good/decent fit one time; can be horrible fit some time later. The costs, can be high: divroce rape, child sup…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 02:30 PM
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Is it true that back then porn and even online dating were considered taboo in the same way sex dolls are today? Or not a good analogy? Online dating didn't really exist mainstream much, in the late 90's early 2000's. At least, not for young people. And the ones who did, were seen as total losers (especially when younger). So there was some taboo back in that day, because you were seen as a loser. Also back then, it wasn't an easy way to find hookups, everyone of the females who did online datin…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 11:23 AM
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That bmi thing is also not very correct. As in. Fat %, is what matters most. It should be put into fat %; but the problem is most people can't get their fat % meassured. So this bmi thing is best next indicator for people with regular/normal range of muscle size and muslce weight.
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 11:08 AM
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This traditionalist view is fiction at best in this day and age Agreed. Fiction outdated or destroyed with the rise of feminism Outdated, for sure. The main cause of it's destruction is imo not feminism. But the mayor cause was/is: the birthcontrol pill that came available in the 1950's. Giving women near 100% control, of: when to have children, when not to have children, and if to have children. Feminism big rise, only came after the birth control pill (before that is was much smaller). And wit…
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 11:04 AM
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with people only (if they have children) having 1 or 2 children. And u Mine now as well. Absolute GOLD. And spot on, on how the birth control pill was the mayor factor/game changer. And the main cause, for the current situation. And not: feminism, female voting rights, religuous decline, Tinder, social media, etc.....
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 10:51 AM
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I agree. If the wellfare for single mothers/parents is also cancelled simultaniously. Because, then the taxpayers are at the moment the ones paying the bill. In a way what I just stated, is a seperate issue (the wellfare/social benifits state for single parents). That's a thing that should be abbolished as well anyways, imo
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 04:58 PM
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Fat shaming, can be pretty legit imo. Because people are often more and better motivated through pain, then positive encouragement.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 04:18 PM
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They told us starting back in the 50's that a carb heavy low fat diet was healthy! Wow. What a bunch of shit. Fat isn't bad at all. Plenty fat, is pretty good. Look at those Japanese skinny people, they eat shitload of fat (from fish). Some animal and plant fat, might be a little bit unhealthy in larger quantities. But overall, fat isn't that bad compared to sugar/carbonhydrates.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 03:56 PM
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my mid 30's (i'm 59). At some point your youth can't fight off bad habits or diet. I also noticed that (now mid 30's). I never got fat. But I do notice without physical excercise for some time, my stamina and power goes down much quiker as when younger. And I need more time to get it up back, after taking a laizy period in excercise. Everything is less forgiving I notice wthen when young. need to be more carefull.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 03:51 PM
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except the beans and carrots I used the beans, to get some proteine in. Because I don't eat meat. Where to get the proteine from then, do they have suggestions? I know brocolli packs massive amounts of proteine. And nuts, peanuts as well. (now I think of it, my eating always mainly constited of: vegetables, oatmeals-grains porridges; nuts, fruits, and laways was a big fish fan.) I've never been overweight even 1 day on my life. Only gained weight, when I was working somewhere without cafetaria a…
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 03:27 PM
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I just cheked mine, it's 20.7. I also checked, how much I should weight for it to 28 bmi. That weight is only reasonable, if I was packing massive/solid amount of big muscles. If you're not having massive/big muscles, then I have to agree you're overweight. I'm just normally sized (little bit trained muscled as well); and I need to gain a massive 27 kilos (4 stone something) before I get bmi 28.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 03:20 PM
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But Keto What does Keto say about eating: vegetables, like cabbages, muchrooms, carrots, beans, paprikas, salades, pumpkins, etc?? I understand Pattatoes, rice and past are high in calories. But what about vegetables? (P.S. I used to be veganistic due to Buddhist religion practise. Due to getting the fleu to often after 4 years of being vegan, I started to incorprate again (hopefully to improve that aspect): fish, milk and cheese (but I still don't use meat and eggs).
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 03:03 PM
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I recall this same type of discussion happening in the late 90's early 2000's. When the internet was rising quickly; and internet porn was rising quickly. I dunno how much internet porn has done, the last 20 years. But it has done some I guess, like maybe men becoming "lazy daters" (no more dates. just netflix-chill).. Maybe this one will have similar effect on top of this.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 02:44 PM
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people just don’t walk around in America. I live in Manhattan and I walk and bike a lot so I’ll never have weight issues but so many Americans just eat terribly and then no exercise Thanks for the insight, in USA culture.I never been to USA. I did once speak to an elderly female customer of mine (one whom has no filter anymore), that went on holiday trip to USA. She said, that they went to a shopping mall, and that they had electrical-carts to drive people from the parking lot into the mall. She…
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 02:01 PM
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>men were conscripted to die by the millions in 1914 >women are the real victims So sickening. Millions of men die. But hte attention then goes to the 1000 women that died. Asif 1000 lives of women, is more valuable then the lives of millions of men. Well, I guess that is how it's seen be a significcant amount of people. And that's disposibility of men.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 01:53 PM
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I'm considered overweight (BMI 26.6) but I lift. Not much fat on me. Overweight should be measured by fat %; I agree. You're higher in weight becaus you're a beast of muscles, and not because you're a blob of fat. Great work, that you put in the work to be physically strong. Something one can imo be proud of; because such things take work and effort (and pain).
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 01:48 PM
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Wow. That's rediculous. I just thought about. I've have been paying 1200 euros per year on health insurance. And who knows how much through taxation. I'm now 36 (always lived prety healthy and never been overweight), and I haven't seen a doctor as an adult. But I see these fat 30-something year olds, at the home-doctor already regularly. Partially payed by me. Unfortunatly I'm forced my law to have health insurance, and pay taxes. Shit.
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 11:52 AM
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Has Tinder and social media contributed to the view that males are the disposable sex? https://www.alamy.com/ww1-graves-of-first-world-war-one-soldiers-at-the-meuse-argonne-american-image61499851.html World War 1 Graves fo military men, nearly all men. Plenty of them men were forced, pushed and pressured to having to join the battlefield. Millions of men died. A few military women also died, like for UK less then a thousand. Here an article about that, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-…
/r/MGTOW02/09/19 10:26 AM
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She won't pay. That's what I bet on.
/r/MGTOW31/08/19 05:55 PM
1

A Story about a Dutch guy. from someone, I dunno but it sounds like: a friend of a former firend of that Dutch guy. Tl;dr Summary of the message: Stay away from "MassiveGrowth9" whose name is Wouter from the Dutch town "Middelburg". And alse stay away from the father of that man. They are said to be: immoral, aggressive, and dangerous. They will only screw up your live. I think, most men won't be so subjectable, to these 2 men much or for long. But more for the many women that have a tendency to…
/r/MGTOW31/08/19 05:49 PM
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He has many friends who've had several nasty divorces and through that alone, he became red pilled. #metoo. Not only through friends. Also just, through looking around, ands seeing what happens with accuitances and people I meet through my work.
/r/MGTOW31/08/19 10:35 AM
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I smoke one cigar / week. It is my new ritual. That won't make one addicted to the nicotine. So it's fine. You enjoy it, and that is also important. Health wise, this will have minimal effect. And not everything you do need to be healthy. Also, No one would say a 1 word. If you drank 1 beer bottle a day. Which will likely be alot more unhealthy. So, people know little about overall health, long term. A healthy lifestyle is agood ideee. But 1 sigar pr week, will do little to the overall health, e…
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 11:49 PM
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These fussy women want wealthy men (preferably white) living in more affluent areas closer to the city. That's, okay.They then can go stand in the line, that these type of men have behind them.And since there is a big gap in supply (of such men) and demand (from females); the mayority will have not succeed at getting with such a man. And that's okay to. But the Bitching about it, isn't okay imo. At least for most people it's annoying or ammusing, depending on the context. ​ It's like. I'm a 7/10…
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 07:31 PM
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And the article says, there are also area's where there are alot of men (more men then women). Like Auburn. And what is the top comment: Auburn - seriously? You would need to be pretty desperate to going looking for a bloke in Auburn Aka. Women aren't even prepared to travel 30 minutes (which is what they said it the travel time from Sidney to Auburn ). Zero effort from their part, lazy. Yet in retrun, the want the man to put in alot of efforts like: take them on dates, pay up, travel to them, t…
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 12:50 PM
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I now hold my care and love for my friends and family who helped me during my hard times. That was also a hard part, of the ended LTR. I fealt we were friends also. To have each others back at bad times. Someone to rely on, in periods when life trows punches at you. That was feeling, was and is incorrect mostly I think. Because you see alot of people, when they breakup, that the firendship part of that relationship doesn't apply/hold up. Or that it's broken at hard times. Whereas as a friend, ha…
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 11:53 AM
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Dave Chapelle, is my favourite comedian (that's still alive). All these SJW and the political correct media outlets; can give their opinion of Dave Chapelle. But they should not get to aggressive at him (aka stalking him, and going after him continuously). LEAVE DAVE ALONE.
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 10:12 AM
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Yep. I wish I could sell something near worthless to 3000 people, at a margin of 1900% or the buying costs. (($100-$5)/$5)*100%= 1900%).
/r/MGTOW29/08/19 10:08 AM
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Mgtow is jist bitter and hates women Do we have to overlook this statement? One is dislike. And hope to be untrue.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:54 PM
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WTF, did I just watch. When looking for women, for whatever reasons. A dude only needs 1 stream, to get his meetups from. It's like, if I go food shopping at a supermarket, why would I bother trying to find food to shop at local farms.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:52 PM
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She doesn't understand, niche market concept. If 16% of dudes would be willing to buy it; that is still an awfull lot of men. And a great (niche) potential market.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 01:16 PM
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Like these women batteling the so called "wage gap between men/women". Wages have been stagnant, since the last decades.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 10:07 AM
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It should be considered a basic human right, every person is entitled to sex ​ I don't get that. Since my common beleive is, that people are entitled to nothing, and have to earn it if they want it and can't just get it (freely). So a landwhale granny woman, that no one wants to fuck because looks very unnattractive. She is entitled to sex?
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 10:04 AM
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It's less than 20% my friend. Think about it. I know. I was being very generous in my example. Personal observation. I think it's more like: * 10% are very "bad" women. 70% are average for todays standards women (average in this day and time, means "bad" women for men). 18% are a little better then average for todays standards women (little above average in this day and time, means "liveable-ish" women for men. And 2% are pretty good/nice/moral women, whom one could be around overall pretty okay…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 09:59 AM
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Tradcons and MGTOW, share alot of concepts. And a few main ones not. He is a Tradcon if I recall correctly. And they advice men to go unicorn hunting. The flaud in their unicorn hunting concept, imo is. They have a list of things to watch out for in your unicorn searching; which will annihalate like 80%+ of women. And all these traditional men, are fishing in that pool for these lets estimate (generously) 20% of women. That makes, that alot of these men will not be able to get on. And that will …
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 12:25 AM
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"me too" is making actual victims of rape dismissive I agree, with this statement alot. It also seemed that the metoo thing among the top-entertainment, seemed alot like women trying to use their sexuality/seduction to get ahead in their carreer. And this was their regret revenge, or something. Like I recall this video of Harvey Wiensteen, where she goes to his Hotel Room, and flirts alot with him. And that was the metoo video. She totally sended sexual signals, and then talks about how she felt…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 12:08 AM
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it bothers me there are so many hurt people here. Don't be bothered. People can and should overcome hurt themselfes. And often they can do it, when they are adults and the thing that happened is manageable. ​ This is kinda totally, a mens only type of club. You won't be able to enjoy it here. Like how a dude wouldn't enjoy visiting a lesbian club. Every female lesbian would be bothered by his pressence, because they/some feel they have to watch/restrict themselfes in some ways, and that's a bumm…
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 11:32 PM
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I know there is a lot of you who think it’s a bad idea My personal concept is: Treat and judge an individual based on their individual behaviour, and not based on what gender, race, etc. they belong to. Their gender, race, etc.; help with which red flags to look for. But in the end, and individual should be judged on their personal level.
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 11:29 PM
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but the opportunity cost of dropping 25k on a car now vs financing it and buying a rental property or investing in a mutual fund is what I'm looking at. I see, and legit. The problem is for most common people. Opportunity cost doesn't exist; since when they have an extra laying around they do one of the following 3 things (or both): 1. putting it on their bank account for 0.01% interest. Or, 2. buying unnecesairy stuff with it (like new furnitures, that drop 75% in value on the 1st day already).…
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 10:34 PM
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Nah. This is something to consider but dont follow it blindly. Money now is worth more than money tomorrow. This can work in favor of financing things, like a car depending on the interest rate. I financed my car for 2.19% I like to add. You go about it, mathametically. But there is also a phsychological aspect to it. I know people that have debt and cash/oney that is abut equal (like 25.000 in the bank, but also still have to pay 25000 on a car). in my opinion. they are broke. In their opinion,…
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 10:44 AM
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I feel like the only women that would do this these days are the religious type. But for how long would she do it? You have to equate society, environment; into this decision. Highly likely, she won't be able to surpress her instincts (hypergamy or grass is always greener in somewhere else or with a different lfetsyle) and to deal with the pressure from society. She will be celibrated and pushed (lowkey) by the feminists and over 50% of society, to leave you ('to free herself' form you). With a …
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:46 PM
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This is NOT part of MGTOW ideology or logic. But this is a personal thing. * Some MGTOW, like the concept of old times where women: chose a partner at young age, had children, and take care of the children and household. And these men, would under such circumstances not mind to support her. And these type of men, often dislike women going for carreer * Some MGTOW, like the concept of women contributing equally. And these men like women to be independant, and will express hate on things like they…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:17 PM
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Common. From research (bottom axis, is the amount of months into the relationship): https://i.imgur.com/78n2o6c.png
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:58 PM
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Beta-Alpha discussions, are hillarious.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:53 PM
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It’s just another power trip for women to get men to pay them for sex. That's true. I recall hearing Patrice O'Neal going to Brasil, because the whores there didn't treat him like shit like in USA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfrj-va6PHg I never could get myself to go to escort/prostitute. I have ofcourse dated regular girls, which is also a type of prostitution. Because I used to pay the mayority of things.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:51 PM
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This is my favourite 2Pac song, from 1994. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egIWskTD5J8
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:22 PM
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Financially, you are doing very good it seems to me. Only 1 thing I don't understand in your finances: " car payment for $170 a month" and "$25k in the bank". Why are you waisting on making the financing company more rich, by paying to much for a car? I would just pay it off with the savings, or if that is to much i would sell the car and pay the difference. And then buy a car, cash. F* car payments. Setting money aside for investing in yourself. or in things that give a return (or go up in valu…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 04:23 PM
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If you’re on dating apps, isn’t that NOT going your own way? If I recall correctly. The set MGTOW barrier, is to not co-habitate with women you have a (sexual) relationship with. Dating (for instance through apps), can then still be considered MGTOW and going won way. I guess.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 04:08 PM
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Why were you planning on marrying again???? You know, the divorce rate for 2nd (and beyond) is even higher then for the first. (from 41 to 50 percent for first marriage, and then for the 2nd marriage it's already 60 to 67 percent). Do you like bad odds? Do you like failing? It just doesn't make sense to me.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 04:04 PM
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The number of women in my life is never 1. It's either less than 1 or greater than 1 but never 1. LOL. One-itis, they called it in my time. When a dude was obsessing over 1 woman, basically always because he had no other options. I overall like the 0 lifestyle the last 4 years; it was good for me.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 02:37 PM
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Yep. Legit. These women, don't know (or care) what brings succesfull men past the age of 30 to the yard. Have women be somewhere; and the young men (teenagers and early 20's) will show up. But, that doesn't work anymore for men to come, after a man is past his mid-late 20's and (semi-)successfull. But these women seem to think, them just being there (in that group) will bring in the successfull men. Nope that men has changed in the following ways: 1. his libido isn't as pressing anymore; 2. he i…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 10:57 AM
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men space get occupied by women They invade our clubs I agree. they can't be allowed in. This is a mens only club. Imo, the ones that sympathise may cheer us on from outside, but should never be allowed in. They may "support" us from a distance. Because the "opposing party"/women, aka the ones with different interests/wants/desires; should not be allowed on our "team". Because they don't share the same interest, but actually opposite interest.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 10:36 AM
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I agree, that we shouldn't allow them in. But the moment you trust them Trusting, should not be done, I agree. And they should have 0 influence/say and not be able to be active in the group. Lurking though, should be fine. And sympathy expressions from women, should be fine to and be "supported" imo. Just have to keep them at distance, and they may only lurk. It is why MRA went to shit and why anything that allows women in it eventually becomes shit. I agree, these MRA tried to work with women. …
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 10:31 AM
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It was a nice replica, and it looked extremely fast as well.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 08:44 PM
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Probably. None of them being men that earn $100.000. And possibly some men, whom managed to get a fake salary slit or managed to bluf themselfes in the group.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 08:43 PM
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I agree with you both, I don't want women here participating either. Because this is like a mens club. I think I tried to add, I don't like to be or see women being chased away in an "aggressive"/nasty/asshole way, for no objective reason. And that i find just being fo female gender, not an objective reason to be "aggressive"/nasty/asshole in style. Even though like 90+% AWALT If I know that a box of candy has "only 40%" poisoned candy, then I won't be bothered to examine each candy individually…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 08:21 PM
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During a divorce, all women act the same- without exception. Then the action is there. When a woman behaves badly during a divorce. It's very common ofcourse, that this happens. It's imo, not fair to say "all women act the same". Because nothing is 100%. And my experience is also that, there is some difference. As a group, it's for example 25% that act extremely badly; and 65% acts badly; and 10% acts reasonable(-ish). Then imo, on an individual basis, it would not be good to treat someone bad t…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 07:42 PM
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Can I be apart of the MGTOW movement as well? This is like a mens club, basically. Also, it's imo not a movement. It's a set of lifestyle ideas. These lifestyle ideas here. A whole bunch of them lifestyle ideas; you couldn't do. And also alot of these lifestyle ideas, make no sense for women or aren't benificial. Becuase you as woman, faces different risks and have different innate wants (and strategies). Check out this video, and you can see some of these differences listed by this men. They ar…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 07:21 PM
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Ofcourse, this is mens only group. Imo, a woman sympathizing is okay and good. And should not be treated "aggressive" at all, but with regular/normal kindness. And if they want to be active in discussing matters, that can't be done here and they can be redirected to the MRA's. We don't care if you enjoy reading what we have to say. Why not? I like it, when someone enjoys the information here. We also don't care if you support our cause (which cause is that?). I care a bit, if someone is supporti…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 07:06 PM
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"She did it ... I knew it"
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 06:53 PM
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This is my alltime favourite. A woman crashing an Shelby Cobra 1967. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAmbhWLcWew
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 06:38 PM
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Self employed, tax advisor.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 05:58 PM
1

I heard that they demonetize every mgtow channel. Bastards @ Youtube. Sorry, I have zero value/knowledge to share on what to make videos about. I woudl assume money wise, it should be something that has an upsell. Because with youtube videos, i assume it's hard to make money. But if you make videos about somthing, where like 2% of the viewers will go to your website/whatever to buy something. then maybe there is money, in it. That youtube becomes more a free place to promote something, than and …
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 05:01 PM
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We live for keeping up with your life. Youtube, I doubt there is money in that? They demonitise alot, and give people scrabs of what they make. Builidng a group/following. That might be good idea. But/and you need some value to share and sell. maybe collaborations with peoplle that have awesome products or services might work. I'll make my money offline 100%, so i know little about it.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 04:42 PM
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what are they thinking? Hunting for random sex. And playing the numbers game. Why are they so horny and giving so much validation? Sex-drive, and/or in need of sexual (desirability) validation these guys really represent us? (MEN)? Yep. The men that dare to chat up women, most of them will (if they are below 30 at least, usually after 30 year old the libido has dropped abit and the sex-drive/horninees is more controlable for most). Also alot of men (below 30 mainly) want to chat up alot of women…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 04:35 PM
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Legit. I wonder what's behind that. It's a real mystery. Not sure if joking, but I'll add something to it anyways. Imo, the answer that statement is: options. Alot/Most people in their peak dating value years, when they have alot of options, want to have "fun". A woman's peak is teenager untill late 20's. A men's peak is early 30's/late 20's untill early or mid 40's. So a 30 year old woman wanting to settle, can best try to settle with a 45+ year old men. In her own age group, she might have a r…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 04:02 PM
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Shaming someone for what they want/don't want. I always wondered how effective, it actually is (in changing someones behaviour)?? I think public shame/shaminging, has a bigger often (due to group pressure).
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 03:53 PM
3

Is overreacting and being overly sensitive. More wrong. Than, acting like a dickhead towards a small child as an adult. Both are annoying, but the bottom one wins in nastiness imo for the fact that it involved a small child.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 10:42 PM
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then toward the end I treated her like shit.( partly because she couldn’t stop her alcohol addiction This sounds fucked up in 2 ways. Firstly, WTF are you doing with an addict? That's just fucked up, and low standard imo. 2ndly. Why don't you break up with someone when they aren't good enough for you and you dislike her (like you said)? But then you drag it out for yourself and her, by not dumping her, but treating her crappy so she will dump you. Overall. Don't do things that make you that make…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 10:36 PM
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LOL. I recall that clip. But in reality, I would expect most MGTOW's to be pretty tough in general. So they would have their child fearing the consquences, when doing something like this. And a smack, would be given. Plenty/Most fathers are pretty good at raising and disciplining their own child (I would assume).
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 10:28 PM
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AWALT. Is imo, about common behaviour among women. It won't be 100%, since nothing is. But it will be the mayority. Here is a great small & short list: about common conflicts between men and women; due to differences in what is ideal for us. It's all in there, Hypergamy ("mate swicthing hypothesis" he calls it); women keeping backup plans (keeps around orbiters, friendzone dudes, etc.); men wanting to fuck alor of different women (and women being much more picky); etc.. https://www.youtube.com/w…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 10:11 PM
2

When I think, I come to the same things as you state here. When I don't think and just "feel"; then it's the opposite. So far, my logic and thinking has won.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 05:53 PM
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I was refering to tightness of skin. Tightness downstairs, I would imagine that regular sex has little effect on the tightness. Putting hugh things in there, or babies going out; I assume does stretch it (out); and probably age is also a factor.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 05:20 PM
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W.e little faith I had left in humanity burned with the Amazon rainforest. To add, The hypocritism, imo. Is that many countries that complain and critic "Brazil" for doing this. Have: A. Offered 0 money to Brazil to stop this. Since it's of benifit for the whole world, I think governemnts/societies should pay/compensate Brazil when they keep the forest and don't use that land for something else. B. Most of these complaining countries, have fucked up "their" nature in the past alot (or are still …
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 03:32 PM
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The uncertainty is imo. Will the child be lucky and life in a period (and place) that is in peace (no war), prosperous, relatively-safe, and not in scarcity? Aka, the past 60 years in the West world. Or might one give it a life of: living in war, violence, scarcity, nastiness, hardship? It's not to be known. And that last thing would be a fucked up thing to "force" a human being to have to experience.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 03:25 PM
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Bringing a child into what the world has become today should be considered child abuse. W.e little faith I had left in humanity burned with the Amazon rainforest. You dont wanna bring a child into this world. TRUST ME. They will suffer and have to face hell. To want to have a child, and to not want to have a child. I flip flop, between this unfortunately. Because of constrasting/contradicting internal programms. Biologically speaking, I want them and think normally speaking I would be atminimum …
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 03:19 PM
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About women feeling looser. It's also genetically compinent, as in that female skin ages faster then male skin. (aka, gets less eslastic, more losse, and so on quicker). Data/research link: https://www.livescience.com/1054-woman-skin-ages-faster.html
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 02:27 PM
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Great. Imo. Don't go the "friendship" route, or the orbiter route, or being backup plan number 8, with women. It's 99% of the time, humiliating oneself, lowering your own sense of self-esteem, putting your own developments and other opportunities on hold. And even the cases that the man did end up with the women, he always was/is the lesser one in the relationship. Often meaning he was kinda her slave.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 12:57 PM
1

money never seems like enough, with my car payment, gas, food, and everything else it seems near impossible to save significant amounts of money. Learn to budget. The Dave Ramsey plan, and the everydollar website/app is pretty good, I think. I use Excel, but that's because I know how to work with it and like all the freedom in making my own spreadsheet. And haveing the ability to add all type of calculations, etc. on it. nightshift I heard it's bad on health long term. Since health is the most v…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 11:40 AM
2

It's not 100%. I think it's more like 50%. This lifestyle, is about chosing not to co-habitate with women (or beyond that). Due to daddy government/society; punishing a man for that (possibly). So, it perfectly reasonable to discuss/share the reasons and observations, for not co-habitating with women. MGTOW is partially also, risk management around dealing with women (in a "romantic" way).
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:52 PM
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Then she should do that, to every leader/president of a country. Because all have them, have done or said something "wrong" in their life. Actually, she should do much worse to plenty other leaders actually. She should defenatley kill Putin, for him killing numerous journalists and opponents and what not. https://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3?international=true&r=US&IR=T
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:36 PM
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that girl wanted you BIG time. You were on her mind from the beginning. That's the same thought I had. 2ndly. She wants you to want to have a family-children-marriage-etc..; because that is what she wants (now or in the future 10 years). She dislikes, that you have other wants. Women use verbal pressure, and group-peer pressure to try to change men. 3rdly. I understand you feel like, she shouldn't be this comfortable to be nasty to you. Since realistically speaking, you are way stronger then her…
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 01:58 PM
3

She makes it sound like: that being honest makes everything fine/okay. Which is a flaud concept.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 01:19 PM
10

The BEST predictor of future behaviour, is past behaviour.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 01:11 PM
1

I dunno about how cool I find this. For smaller crimes, and for minors-youngestrs i would be okay with such a system. But if someone did something severe. Like killed a friend/family member/loved one; and then he walks around "freely-ish" so he/she can still work during the daytime. I dunno. A part of me would say, I need to take matters into my own hands for feeling safe and justice.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 01:08 PM
2

What does having an woman on your side offer, from my personal experience: (easy access to) sex (if the woman is attractive looking) status among and attention from others: colleagues, men, women, family, strangers when out and about, aquintances. (with the added ego boost feeling) if "lucky", feels like she is a friend, a good conversation partner, and someone to do fun things with (if similar interests) (not from experience), baring and having your "own" (more like 50%) children. Possibly givi…
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 12:46 PM
46

Back in the good old days. When women were chaste and righteous.
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 03:34 PM
4

The main cause, imo. Women, managed to get their resources through: * wellfare/government; * working themselfes; * family court, forcing the ex to pay up alot (alimony & child support). ​ Women, whom manage to get their resources/providings. Won't be interested anymore in mr. provider/beta bucks. Women only want and stay with mr. provider/beta bucks; when they don't have their providings in order or can't get them easily. In the older times. Most women had alot of difficulty to provide for thems…
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 11:04 AM
2

the media/celebrities/feminists/progressives demeans it in favour of science. Imo, NOT in favour of science. But in favour of the ideology of feminism/gynocentrism. Basically, doing what seems in favour of women their options. The "new" religion is gynocentrism (and largly feminism); the new religion is not science. see for example, how much feminists fight with Jordan Peterson. While Jordan peterson tries to stay close to science, and what psychological/psychrisatic research has shown. Yet femi…
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 10:00 AM
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Dating Apps Are a Waste of Your Time, as a man below the age of 40; and are in the range of: ugly - average+ in looks. It's not a waste of time, if you're a man below 40 and looking for random sex (or more?), and are good looking 8/10 or above. I dunno how it is for old men (60+) out there, looking for an old woman (60+) also. I would assume such a men would have more matches?
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 09:45 AM
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She casted you for the role of: (beta) provider in her life.When she saw the old phone, she assumed you weren't making enough to be able to (or willing to) be a good (beta) provider. So she "dumped" you. The last relationship I had, I was also casted as the (beta) provider to a significant extend. It's not nice to have that role, when you aren't estremely rich or making alot of money. Because, the hard earned money goes away to her to a large extend. Which isn't fun at all. Well that's the excha…
/r/MGTOW22/08/19 09:15 AM
1

Ironically the "lower classes" tend to be better at maintaining friendships that the middle classes or upper classes, as there's not as much need for "friends" from a financial standpoint, and people with means scatter more. This seems true. money though, realistically. Is more reliable mostly, in the current times, then friends.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 10:52 PM
1

The pension age continues to rise, there was an article this week about a think tank saying 75 (UK). here in the netherlands. That pension age is also on the rise. The official pension age used to be 65 years old (altough before 2008, plenty got early retirement plans from work, and retired at ages like 62 orso). Now, they are upping it to to 67 years. I checked onlin, and for me (a mid 30's guy), they estimate it atm for me at 69 years old (who knows what will be real by then). I started workin…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 10:33 PM
1

I loved this girl. I loved her more than I love myself That's what a man his Love for a woman does. He'll go further then he would for anything else. All the way up to the point, that he looses his sense of self-esteem and dignity, his money, his morals, etc..It's sad and pathetic, at the same time. It's beter to like a woman. Then to love a woman. A man in Love, is often fucked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My6ZWYldBRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mimu2DF7L0o
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:39 PM
1

These women feel insecure. And then try to bring him down, to their level. LOL @ women trying to break or destroy a man. It's pretty common, it seems. They either try to extract from a man, and/or bring his sense of selfesteem/success down. I read once, it's seen as a common mate guarding strategy by behaviour researches; trying to bring your partner his perception of himself down (and defenately not build it up) she he feels he can't do better and will stay.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:30 PM
4

As marriage declines This is true. For the West. And many Asian countries. I doubt this to be true for Arabics, Africans, South America. And possibly also the minorities living the West (or coming/immigrating) to the West. As marriage declines I cant help but think the goverment will suffer greatly due to less kids being born, meaning less tax revenue. But will the goverment eventually try to counter the mgtow movement? I estimate. Similar things well be done by the governemnt, as japan did. Soc…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:15 PM
2

Better go out prepared. Or daddy government, has more tools to rape you in family court.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:17 PM
6

WOW, what a great document! Really practical advice. Sometimes those bodybuildingforums are great advice forums.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:15 PM
1

to share my life Most likely. A couple of years of sharing, maybe a decade. Then after divorce, there maybe that you still need to pay up for plenty years. Sorry for the bummer, but that's what i see around me mostly.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:08 PM
5

I don't understand what I did wrong. I provided a nice home; I am a good parent; I would take her on dates; I help with the housework; I am not fat... While things in the bedroom have been rather non-existent, that has been always because she claimed to be "tired" or have a headache or was not "in the mood." Reading this. You did nothing mayorly wrong. And therefore you shouldn't blame yourself for it. Firstly, cheating is also highly dependant on a person their personality (traits). And she has…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:06 PM
9

F*** Jobs. I'm so happy I'm self employed/one man business owner (tax advisor). I recuite my own customers, and "have" like 200 private clients and 20-30 businesses. I can work wmy won way. And if 1 customer were t get offended, because I'm white or of watever reason. No probs, just lost 1% instead of 100% (as happens when get fired). There are also plenty downsides to being self employed/one man business owner. But also plenty upsides.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 03:35 PM
8

There is no equality. There is gynocentrism, atm.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 02:25 PM
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#notfromhim most likely
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 02:24 PM
8

Worl Economic Forum, can measure gender inequality? It's not or hardly measurable. Because it has to be seen, on a wide scale of aspects.Here and almost everywhere. They confuse gender equality; meaning an equal outcome between meen and women.They give this example, that 25% of congress is women. That doesn't say anything about gender equality on it's own. Because, maybe men and women have equally enough chance to become congress members. But maybe not many women want to become congressmembers, …
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 07:18 PM
10

2 main reasons. Abusive is often mis-used. If a man didn't do everything she wanted, or he stood up for his own wants. Then it's regularly already called abusive, while in reality it's just a man keeping his own best interest and happiness at first place. Plenty attractive men (since they have options) have and do this; and women are mostly going for attractive men. Hence this is common. Plenty women like dark traits in men. So men with these dark triats, if they pass the looks barrier, are seen…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 03:31 PM
2

Great. For me typing was fine. I recall, finance analists/stock market analists; interns doing alot of excel work making spreadsheats doing all kinds of calculations. They took away their mouse. So they were forced to only use the keyboard. Because mouse using was for rookies. They had to learn all the swift-key-codes. LOL. Some off them were rediculous fast with the key board, I recall watching them. Nearly never touched their mouse.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 03:15 PM
2

It's less on a treadmill, then when you normally walk, because there is less "jump" in treadmill walking then normal walking. Typing, not so much harder, maybe a little bit but hardly. It higly depends on how quick you set the pace. But slow walking, it's fine for me. The mouse on the otherr hand, is bit less accurate. The mouse using, is where it was more difficult then typing. I read it takes 4 hours to get mouse usage on a decent level. They did research on this. And it takes about 3 months o…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 02:08 PM
2

To summarize, the research I read (some time ago, so it's from memory). -Plenty health benifits. Especially for people with extra weight, high cholesterol, overly stressed people, etc.. Overall positive health effects. - work productivity. First it goes down. And takes a couple of months to go back to the same level again. And for long term (after those months) it shows hints that productivity increased. My personal experience so far (little of 1 month in). The prductivity decrease is also alot …
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 10:05 AM
2

Hustler. Hustling on easy mode.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 09:59 AM
2

Great. I used to cheap on these things when i was younger. Then I got backpain, like 3 years ago orso. I tried plenty stuff, but the things on my list, is what only really worked for me (I never tried the bicycle desk though). The walking pad, i also like alot. For sitting long had bad effects, long term. It's "only" 500 dollars on Aliexpress. https://nl.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-Xiaomi-walkingpad.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.57e03089ZOJZob&CatId=200003532&switch_new_app=y If one types into s…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:25 PM
3

"systematic conditioning". Meaningless statement, because we are all recieve systematic conditioning since after we are born. On top of our genetic/bilogical conditioning. All we are, is some form of conditioning (either: genetically born with, or external data (nature/nurture))
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:11 PM
3

anyone working behind computer. Do yourself a favour. And don't cheap out on buying yourself: * a good desk chair (that keeps you straight) ( I also like the blow up cushion, helps with posture also) * a good (height adjustable desk) * and a walking pad for under the desk (sitting all day, is really bad longterm). I spend over 1000 bucks on these things combined. Worth every penny. Posture is really important, and so is health. (by the way, doing strenght training regularly also helps, since you…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:34 PM
2

What do you do for me?? She said, what do you do for me. This is really offensive, reading how much effort you to put in and what you do for her. It would be okay for her to say that, IF you were a lousy and laizy boyfriend. But not, when you try your best and treat her well.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:26 PM
3

They even call taller than everage men, short. Since the average height in USGAY is 5 feet 9 inches. So a dude that is 5 feet 11, isn't short. he's actually above average. he's top 30% height wise. A dude that is 6 feet, is way above average. And can be considered tall already. since he's top 20%. Short is more like, 5 feet 7. I'm 6 feet 2, in USA I would be top 6%. Now, kiss my feet women, I'm Top Tier God. just kidding.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:17 PM
5

Why aren't we using the terms alpha/beta for women as well? Because mens dating.mating strategy, is to much different from women to use the same model. Alpha/Chad men -> the the female equivelant would be a really hot/attractive woman. Now most women in their prime only want to fuck hot/Chad/Alpha men; and not men that are below the top 20% in Looks. Now most men want to fuck hot women; but will also fuck average looking women and even below average women (if thirsty enough). So men aren't picky…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:03 PM
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#gynocentrism in action! This is what gynocentrism looks like. When somethings happen often. Such as women getting lower sentences. The shock will go away. It's common knowledge, nowadays, that women get better treatment in court. What , It's even on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynocentrism#In_contemporary_society "In a 2019 study of Trinidad society published in the Justice Policy Journal, researchers concluded that "gynocentrism pervades all aspects of the criminal justice system …
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 01:47 PM
4

That's why owning a business, or being self-employed, is better. Because then you have way more options for tax planning. Whereas, as an employee the taxes just automaticaaly get dedecuted from your salary. You can do nothing about that.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 01:35 PM
2

Stefan Molyneux's (PHANTASY WORLD), is trying to advice young women (in their 20's): to stay with a reliable and suitable man, and have children in their 20's. And to raise their children themselfes (no/little daycare), and to put education and carreer on hold/pause for their family/children. And this is the REALITY: NO, teenage untill mid 20's woman is listening to dudes like Stefan Molyneux. To them, it's just a boring old uncool and unsexy dude. Women in their teens and 20's, choice to do thi…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:58 AM
3

Having limited, or no access to the children, for the father. Common. Some statistics, when father and mother are not living together (most commonly due to speration, divorce). * 27% of fathers have no contact with their children * 29% of fathers see their children, 1-4 times a month. * 22% of fathers see their children more than once a week. And: Mothers get ...% (?) custody, it must be a high number. Plenty if not most men that have very limited or no acces to their children. Aren't so, becaus…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 10:46 AM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/cpa6a0/headship_returning_women_to_their_subordinate_role/ewo35za?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x ​ What happens to often imo. Is the idealizing of the older times. Often in the form of men, idealising the nuclear family if the 50's. So you get something along the lines of: "When men were still men and providing, and the women were staying at home taking care of the children and household. And people had long lasting happy marriages." While th reality wa…
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 11:48 AM
1

That dude his Youtube video/update about this post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd5JIx7Wpxc
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 10:43 AM
8

Thanks, for crushing the people (unfortunately also plenty men here) whom suffer from: "Good old days syndrome".
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 10:19 AM
1

1 - With a condom its SHITTY as fuck, might aswell jerk off. I had that tought as well, often. And I also went bar back because of this regularly in my last relationship, up untill it went wrong one time. Which stress, was even way worse. Never bare back again, if I don't want children. So all that is left. Shitty condom sex. That thing aslways cuts of a arge part of the blood flow and making me feel less also. Like 75%+ of the time, I couldn't even come with condom on.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 09:32 AM
2

always have one foot out the door Yes, or at least a few backup plans. And on the lookout for a better option/partner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu4Uki8VyLc&t=760
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 09:07 AM
1

LOL. And What the hell, calling from different numbers. As childish and can be, "fake" calling I did last when I was 10 years old and found it very funny at that age.
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 09:03 AM
2

Hypergamy, was also in there i saw: "The mate switching hypothosis" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu4Uki8VyLc&t=762 ​ It's totally true, that we have: internal conflicting mating strategies running in us. And that between women & men there are conflicting mating strategies running. Hence the complexity at it; and the plenty fights. And how it's not straight forward. Also the reason, there are so many types of reltionships between humans.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 12:46 PM
9

as a broke chad, you're a novelty at best to the majority women. There's always a bigger fish, and someone with deeper pockets willing to finance the lifestyle of a woman (or simp for them). In my observation. This quote is 100% legit. Women flip - flop between wanting 2 things. 1. Hot/Attractive looking man; 2. A man that provides, aka pays their stuff and nice lifestyle. When a woman is with an attractive looking man (that doesn't pay for her); then she wants a provider man (that pays for her …
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:39 AM
2

Mature, I think not. It's just that women at a young age (after 18+) have alot more options to do "mature" things that men don't have at that age. An decent looking 18 year old girl,: has the option often: * to move out of parents home and life for free with an (older) boyfriend; * has the option to marry or LTR with a man that has his life togerther; * has the option to have children, where the man/father will pay the expenses; * has the option to get a car, etc. from dudes; * can land an easy …
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:21 AM
2

go to lawyer, and ask what can be done prenup + regular updates on it foreign assests non-traceable assets (gold, silver, bitcoins, cash/currency, etc.) trust funds company possesions
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 06:54 AM
1

i have 0 experience on this. not from USA. I assume a prenup is better then no one. About prenups I read. Well, you can include anything you want in your prenup, but that doesn’t mean it will all be enforced. If a judge decides your contract is too one-sided or too unreasonable – the whole thing can be invalidated, according to divorce financial planner Jeff Landers. Some of the things that cannot be included in a prenuptial agreement include: Details about anything illegal, as this may lead to …
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:18 PM
1

I hate him, for giving orders to kill people or groups or journalists that disagree with him and want a different political system or whatever other mayor changes. Power hungry, combined with low ethics.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:08 PM
6

15 Times The Simpsons Predicted The Future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-10vg90ZIy8&t=80
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:00 PM
1

LOL. I recall when I still dated (10 years ago orso). I never went on dates to restaurants. That was reserved for women, I was in relationship with.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:32 PM
4

Opportunism. The way I liked to try and do things. It's either a big blow up, or a win. A good story for sure, either way it goes.
/r/seduction13/08/19 10:27 PM
1

Does she think I’m just lame/unattractive? Most likely, the last one for sure. The first one optional Am I over reacting? Your biggest over reaction is imo. That you focus on 1 girl, you basically and factually have nothing/0 touchable with. The only thing you have, is your over thinking/phantasising. In high school I’ve been hurt many times when I like a girl and I’ve never really had any luck with the girls I liked. Protect yourself from liking girls alot in a dating/relationship/etc. type of …
/r/seduction13/08/19 10:20 PM
1

Redirection to The Red Pill subgroup, might also be good. Since they still concern about dating often as well.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 09:50 PM
2

PUA. Starting point is: I want and go after a relationship/sex with women. MGTOW. Starting point is. Is it actually worth the investment/costs/risk to go after relationships with women? So . MGTOW doesn't focus on ideas or techniques much if at all; for "getting" women. And PUA, is all about "how to get women" In some pua's ideas they might have a point, although often they just as bad/good as your average dude: for example I recall these PUAs talking abou their "game":https://www.youtube.com/wa…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 09:40 PM
1

She was saving face by doing this.Anyway saying "NEXT" is the right answer but not all the time. I've had 2 gfs who have done this. I them leave "its fine. I don't beg" And they came back. Yeah, I understand that. Also recall, when I still dated that "no", doesn't always mean that they wanted things to end but they want to gain, or keep the upperhand or have some other bs reasons. I get that; and when i was younger I often also tried to see if it was real or some other nonsense. Even if it was s…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 07:01 PM
1

If your answer for everything is "They're just that way, don't waste your time bro!" then you wouldn't understand. That's not my answer for everything. But for some things. What would I not understand? You mean I wouldn't understand the joy/pleasure feelings you (or others) get from seeing someone have pain/discomfort that cuased you pain or rejecetd you or screwed you over?
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 04:04 PM
1

So looks really are all that matters Nope. Looks is the MOST important factor, if one wants sex or relationships WITHOUT paying for it (directly or indirectly) at all or very little. ​ If a dude is okay with paying (directly or indirectly) for sex/relationship. Then he can use his Money and/or Status, to pay a woman to be with him basically (or a man can just for sex, try to fake havinging status or wealthy lifestyle, if he doesn;t actually have it. It's called "having game" often). ​ So, both w…
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 10:23 PM
1

LOL. In my head, I always see Al Bundy's in the 1950's type of marriages.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:58 PM
2

and she loves me too Nice. And sad to hear that she has not enough motivation to satisfy the wants of someone she loves; or makes a real effort at it. I kinda envisioned marriage to be with a beautiful woman who would only be sexual with me and only me but I guess you can't pick and choose. It's rare. Women just don't like sex with same old same old man. Over time. It doesn't even matter if he's the biggest Chad in the world. Like, check this research graph (horizontal axis is months of relation…
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:56 PM
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simp. imo. Is putting a woman before yourself and your best friends. Just because she's a woman. Without any other standard, then she being an decent looking woman. ​ You can tell it by a person their behaviour mostly. Words can de decieving, actions it what counts. ​ A person imo isn't a simp. When he puts himself first; his children (if he has) second, and then after that weights the importance as onbjectively as possible (and doesn't have or has a limited a gender bias).
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:29 PM
3

plentifull reasons, probably. Most I think. What fool/idiot goes with a broker partner? So there is something wrong with a person, if they seek out broken peaople to be their partner. And fools break up with someone that is healed/happy. So they can get fucked up again. Missery needs company.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:24 PM
1

You're writing a book? About what? ​ I would ghost. Not waist the time. And the only revenge I really like, is living a great life myself. But if you need info/data for your book, then it's work.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:20 PM
2

Your story sounds like the common marriages of 60 years ago. In those times, bars where doing great business, my all the men whm wnet there to drink away their sorrows. ​ Anyhow. In the time of Jesus, the average age of death was probably 30-something. It's much easier to be married a lifetime when you die (on average) at 30-something. What is your plan, and course of action for the near future? You'll stay in?
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:14 PM
2

They don't say that directly often. but it's basically the point, they make to me. Some are direct in it, but most are indirect about it. I don't get bothered by it alot. because it's always clear these people haven't done alot of any deep thinking about the subject matter of: purpose and meaning.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 09:03 PM
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Coach red pill is so off base, when it comes to the importance of looks. But then, he totally plays the: provider, rich man type of game. I mean, the dude went to a 3rd world country (Ukraine) to marry a woman there and have a famiy with. In such countries, it doesn't matter if you look like a gobblin when you're rich. Because life/survival is so hard there.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 08:58 PM
2

what I don’t get is what’s so special about those dudes women slut it up for. Is looking like a bodybuilder really all that matters to them? Being fit and muscled helps. But with good looks come much more, then being muscled. And some male models aren't muscled at all, but still are 9+ out of 10. It's to many things to just list in a post, what are important factors to great looks. ​ What's so spelcial about a nice looking woman, that men drool over? It's the same asnwer. And it won't be just he…
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 08:55 PM
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Sometimes. Mainly from religuous people, freshly maaried people, and people that just had their first kid. They say basically: your life has no meaning and purpose. Your life is pointless. You miss out on the greatest thing that exists in life. You're waisting your time on earth
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 08:49 PM
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Hope the tyrannical CPC doesn't win. #metoo. F* the CPC, bunch of corrupt power hungry assholes. Don't give up HongKong protesters, I wish you all the best.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 08:45 PM
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