This is getting crazy.

Wrongdoer-Majestic · 2020-09-10T23:46:10+00:00

Giving more men reason to have nothing to do with women. It's all part of the plan.

z31fanatic · 2020-09-11T00:47:28+00:00

Canada is the worst country if you are a man.

Miserable-Lemon · 2020-09-11T00:22:02+00:00

Nothing crazy, just the expected reaction to MGTOW. More laws forcing the definition of "spouse".

Remember, this shit is exactly what the early feminists wanted, government assigned husbands. The ultimate in life in easy mode.

No_thy_self · 2020-09-10T23:58:10+00:00

Leave the country, you clearly have the resources and from now on, hookers man, hookers.

CommanderOfTheDeath · 2020-09-11T01:16:31+00:00

They are really trying their best to completely kill all forms of relationships.

Cryptolexicon · 2020-09-11T00:22:23+00:00

If he was living in Japan he could pay 5 grand

And a "Jouhatsu" company (they make people disappear, they relocate them, give them new identities, papers) would take care of the damn problem

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200903-the-companies-that-help-people-vanish

Rottinghere · 2020-09-11T00:26:57+00:00

Canada is forever lost.

pangolin001 · 2020-09-11T02:00:37+00:00

Link to story: https://globalnews.ca/news/7327501/couple-no-home-no-kids-spouses-ontario-court/

What a shit show. She's a 38 year old single mother that was still getting separated. Seems to me that means she was still technically married.

Apparently if you lavish gifts on a woman she's 'entitled' to that treatment for, well, looks like 10 years but that was only after appeal. The original Judge (a woman) set the payments for LIFE. Fucking LIFE!

Why does this work for relationships like this but not, for example, for employment? Well, obviously the courts feel that pussy is worth a lifetime of cash. They look at whether or not the relationship was 'intimate' and if it is/was, then she gets paid.

If men paint a picture to women that they will get married the courts hold men accountable. What about women who fuck your brains out for a while, basically sending you the message that it will continue. Why isn't she held to account by having to fuck him a couple times a month? And if she doesn't want to, well then, now she should owe him money. But nope. Apparently pussy is worth millions but millions aren't actually worth anything when put up against pussy. It's so confusing.

throwaway4291920 · 2020-09-11T00:03:06+00:00

Just go live in another country at that point.

ghebert001 · 2020-09-11T02:03:54+00:00

If men gave up on women altogether, they would just start charging a bachelor tax.

MigPOW · 2020-09-11T03:32:52+00:00

The decision comes in the case of Lisa Climans and Michael Latner, both of Toronto, who began a romantic relationship after meeting in October 2001. At the time, she was 38 and separated with two children, court records show. He was 46 and divorced with three children.

Although they maintained their separate homes, Latner and Climans behaved as a couple both privately and publicly. They vacationed together. He gave her a 7.5-carat diamond ring and other jewelry that she wore. She quit her job and would regularly sleep at his house. They travelled together and talked about living together.

Latner proposed several times and Climans accepted. He often referred to her by his last name. However, he insisted she sign a marriage contract and came up with several drafts. She refused. Throughout their relationship, the two kept separate bank accounts and never owned property in common. Nevertheless, Latner gave Climans thousands of dollars every month, a credit card, paid off her mortgage and showered her with expensive gifts. He provided her and her children with a "lavish lifestyle," the court found.

In her decision in February 2019, Superior Court Justice Sharon Shore sided with Climans. She ruled they were in fact long-time spouses, finding that despite their separate home, they lived under one roof at Latner's cottage for part of the summer, and during winter vacations in Florida. Shore ordered him to pay her $53,077 monthly indefinitely. Latner appealed.

The higher court leaned heavily on Shore's analysis, finding she was right to conclude cohabitation can occur even when the parties stay together intermittently.

The Appeal Court did find Shore had made an error in deciding how long Latner would have to pay Climans support based on when they first began cohabiting. While Shore had found that to be almost from the get-go, the higher court said it wasn't earlier than their first stay together at his cottage, meaning they didn't reach the threshold for indefinite payments.

So he now has to pay her $600K for ten years, $6M, while she has no obligations to him whatsoever and mooched off him for 14 years post wall.

Moral: don't start paying for the woman or let her live under any of your roofs. And when the woman refuses to sign a prenup, thats a bad omen and he should have realized he was being used.

2020-09-10T23:47:26+00:00

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davisyoung · 2020-09-11T05:12:13+00:00

The original ruling was for 50k a month indefinitely. In appeals, it was reduced to 10 years. We men are living in a world where losing over $6 million is considered getting off lucky.

anongogogo · 2020-09-11T01:31:34+00:00

OH Cucknada. What else is new there?

someone-farted · 2020-09-11T02:07:28+00:00

This does not surprise me. I live in Colorado - one of the few states in the USA in which common law marriage is still a thing.

This isn’t “getting crazy;” these laws have been in place for a very long time (at least where I am), and will likely not go away anytime soon.

VampireGhoul · 2020-09-11T03:18:35+00:00

Canada is truly cucked.

Give it a decade and this will be common all over.

TXJohn83 · 2020-09-11T03:55:49+00:00

And the evil is spreading from California.

I would love to know what fact pattern was used to establish this.

Chakra_Devourer · 2020-09-11T06:02:30+00:00

WTF! So 600k/year. What the fuck does she contribute to his business or his well being to deserve this much? What does she eat with 600k/year? Fucking bullshit!

Okay so here's the question. How do they prove that he's in an LTR with her? It's different from a marriage though. With a marriage, you have the paper work with date stamped on it. So you know how long the marriage last.

How do you determine how long they've been together or even in an LTR? She could just lie and use pictures that they've taken together and claimed it as LTR? I mean they could just be mere acquaintances.

xbregax · 2020-09-11T05:28:45+00:00

This angers me so much. How the fuck is this ok? This dude tried taking every precaution (never moving in or marrying, etc) and still got fucked 😡

cutt88 · 2020-09-11T08:06:42+00:00

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BlueFatCat20 · 2020-09-11T04:01:20+00:00

🤡 🌎

isthisthelasttime34 · 2020-09-11T04:21:27+00:00

And in tomorrow's news "Marriage Rates Are Plummeting: How Could This Be?"

ExtremeEnergy0 · 2020-09-11T06:22:25+00:00

Rip to all my brothers living in that shithole.

Maximum_Afternoon · 2020-09-11T01:33:53+00:00

*sings*
Fuck this shit I'm out (mhm)
Fuck this shit I'm out (No thanks)
Don't mind me
I'ma just grab my stuff and leave
Excuse me please
Fuck this shit I'm out (Nope)
Fuck this shit I'm out (Alright then)
I don't know what the fuck just happened
But I don't really care
I'ma get the fuck up outta here
Fuck this shit I'm out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wO5TnYaJ4o

minbooz · 2020-09-11T03:18:26+00:00

Damn Canada’s is worse than California

Davegvg · 2020-09-11T03:28:57+00:00

Having taken half the original income from the gentleman that earned it. Now i'd guess the province gets to take half of it again when he pays her.

Is palimony deductible in Ontario?

Vindaloo-brication · 2020-09-11T05:44:41+00:00

Time for a fkn crusade.

clayticus · 2020-09-11T05:28:10+00:00

This makes no sense. I thought a man would always be safe as long as they don't cohabitate.

EmotionalDrift · 2020-09-11T07:14:55+00:00

Clown world fiesta... 🤡

ryoko227 · 2020-09-11T07:16:01+00:00

It's been crazy for years...

Soon proximity alone will be enough to divorce grape a man.

In before they start charging bachelor taxes for those who won't "play" on the plantation.

Jmcphee1 · 2020-09-11T08:39:26+00:00

No thanks Judge, I'll keep my money and do the jail time!

SuperiorFarter · 2020-09-11T10:21:17+00:00

This is what I have been saying. They are going to get your money eventually. It doesn't matter what you do. Avoid marriage, stay celibate, never leave your house or talk to anyone. It doesn't matter. They will just come up with an excuse why they're allowed to take your money, even if it makes no sense whatsoever, and there's nothing you can say or do to stop it. There's just no point in trying anymore. MGTOW will never work unless we start our own country.

Chakra_Devourer · 2020-09-11T11:02:49+00:00

The Superior Court of 'JuSticE' lmfaao.

thefudmaster · 2020-09-11T02:23:18+00:00

Canada is pretty bad with this stuff. Any person in any country needs to learn how to appeal bullshit rulings like this.

ToolRulz68 · 2020-09-11T05:10:15+00:00

What....the....fuck.....

RaiderBoyComingIn · 2020-09-11T05:40:10+00:00

Always has been.

KaitouNala · 2020-09-11T06:22:07+00:00

Well its a good thing I don't date anymore, because otherwise this would convince me not to.

Say_no_to_3DPD · 2020-09-11T11:16:03+00:00

I always knew Canada was cucked as fuck but this is a new level lol.

Have any kind of relationship and the government lets the chick leech you for the next decade.

Pump and dump and you will likely catch a false accusation at some point, which will be instantly believed and you will go to jail.

On top of that they have the ultra cucked swedish model for hookers where they will lock up the dudes buying pussy but not the hookers themselves since only buying is illegal.

295DVRKSS · 2020-09-11T14:02:06+00:00

I worked previous with a gentleman that annually pays more than 7 figures to his ex wife in alimony. No kids. Took his house in Santa Monica and half of everything else. She does absolutely nothing except ask for more cash. He’ll have to continue paying for the rest of her life or until she gets married again. She keeps a boyfriend like a dog and when the courts check up on her the boyfriend puts all of his shit into a u haul and parks it around the corner until they leave. Then like a scavenger digging through garbage he moves back in. This is such a clown world

eduardkoopman · 2020-09-11T14:06:11+00:00

"Under Ontario law, an unmarried couple are considered common-law spouses. if they have cohabited — lived together in a conjugal relationship — continuously for at least three years. But that doesn’t necessarily mean living in the same home, the court found."

WTF???
What is next? If you look for 10 sendons at a woman, you are considered common-law spouses. I would never vote again in my life, for a political party that caused and/or implemented or agreed with this law.

llama_in_space · 2020-09-11T14:07:53+00:00

she refused a prenup, and when he broke it off years later, she demanded that the courts see her as his spouse. 100% defrauding the system

Gamer4life94 · 2020-09-11T14:44:49+00:00

Wonder if the judge was a woman

mesaboogeytool · 2020-09-11T15:12:20+00:00

I was just about to post this looooool. Jesus my country is cucked.

DemonGroover · 2020-09-12T13:00:34+00:00

I would literally give all my wealth to charity and live on the streets before giving her a cent.

SumTingIsVaryWong · 2020-09-11T07:55:19+00:00

That’s pure fucking bullshit

InformalCriticism · 2020-09-11T08:22:58+00:00

Are there any Canadian lawyers or judges here who can explain how this is even possible?

mr_c97 · 2020-09-11T08:33:18+00:00

I'd flee that shithole of a country if I were him. He can run his business remotely.

Maximedius · 2020-09-11T09:05:02+00:00

As German-American I'm pretty happy with how based both Germany and my home state are. No common law marriage, paternity testing on request, clear legal processes for child support, and we're even slowly doing away with spousal support.

prototype214 · 2020-09-11T09:30:31+00:00

MGTOW is truly the only way.

RowdyBusch · 2020-09-11T10:28:55+00:00

I'd end her, honestly.

General_Fear · 2020-09-11T11:00:37+00:00

This will spread to the rest of the world. Just you wait.

Don't marry them because of divorce rape. Now don't have a long term relationship because of divorce rape. Next will be date a woman once and you owe them alimony.

beardedbliss · 2020-09-11T11:08:32+00:00

What the FUCK, eh? Come on Canada! To borrow a line from Ron Simmons: DAMN!

Delifier · 2020-09-11T11:59:45+00:00

Who is the judge white knighting for?

sbp1991 · 2020-09-11T13:18:11+00:00

Ans to think that I wanted to move to Canada. Fuck that shithole.

Supersonic_staples · 2020-09-11T13:55:53+00:00

He fucked up by financially supporting her while together. That's the catch they used to declare them "cohabitating".

NEVER give her money/help with the bills/etc...

NEVER.

Also, sincerely, why risk being a wage slave for a girlfriend. I'd be curious to know how many guys split with their girlfriends after hearing this news.

sybergamer2022 · 2020-09-11T15:00:42+00:00

Honk

NetGrimm · 2020-09-11T19:16:02+00:00

So he's basically being forced to pay spousal support to a girlfriend? Clown Cucknada. smh!

throwawaymbd12 · 2020-09-11T20:26:02+00:00

Single Mothers - Never Date Single Mothers. Leykis 101 still proving to be effective once again

bbhuntt · 2020-09-11T04:44:36+00:00

What in tarnation

2020-09-11T05:00:11+00:00

Did the man get some coochie at least? 🤣🤣

charvey709 · 2020-09-11T05:32:01+00:00

That province is the bane of Canada

atlaspaine · 2020-09-11T05:58:25+00:00

What the fuvk

itsikkkhanimran · 2020-09-11T06:03:57+00:00

Link to the article

this is some next level shit

JackieChansArmpits · 2020-09-11T09:14:34+00:00

I've just watched Better Bachelor's video on this bullshit. What can I say: RIP Canada, long live MGTOW!

TeddyMGTOW · 2020-09-11T10:09:57+00:00

I'm gonna fact check this one later on, something seems off. I'm not saying guys are getting fucked in Canada, but this is over the top.

kyledontcare · 2020-09-11T13:18:03+00:00

Court of Injustice

Red_Liner740 · 2020-09-11T13:31:09+00:00

That’s some next level hamstering from that judge.

Common law marriage, what this was if the definition was stretched, doesn’t allow for alimony for life. So his appeal simply brought him back to “square one” as far as that goes.

That judge needs to be charged with a judicial misconduct and unseated.

I’d be appealing this decision for life!!

EnolaBae · 2020-09-11T15:39:20+00:00

But were they married... I GOTTA KNOW

1976103053776 · 2020-09-11T15:43:38+00:00

Mega mind antinatalist policy?

TheFutureIsFefail · 2020-09-11T15:47:27+00:00

Reminder that females aren't prostitutes. /s in case it wasn't obvious.

BobScratchit · 2020-09-11T16:12:21+00:00

Mandatory prostitution

SomethinLikDis · 2020-09-11T17:32:40+00:00

Is leaving Canada an option

johntheother · 2020-09-11T18:39:52+00:00

This goes some distance beyond obscene.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2020-09-11T20:26:30+00:00

So they want to bury the concept of dating , marriage, the family, etc..

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2020-09-11T21:15:49+00:00

This shit is crazy!

unamins · 2020-09-11T22:37:32+00:00

https://globalnews.ca/news/7327501/couple-no-home-no-kids-spouses-ontario-court/

liaizon · 2020-09-12T04:26:35+00:00

Case File #Infinity + 1

p3b234cw4z2 · 2020-09-12T08:25:57+00:00

Play stupid games, win stupid prices.

There is weed and safe massage parlours in Toronto and he had to get a girlfriend.

throwawaygoodvibess · 2020-09-27T14:57:40+00:00

Ahh yes, and they love to wonder why men find them crazy. Or why they’re actually deciding not to chase them.

Title	This is getting crazy.
Author	fuzzy_brb
Upvotes	986
Comments	237
Date	September 10, 2020 11:32 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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