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[–]MichaelSkarn_FBI26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sunk cost fallacy is an important one to know as well, especially for MGTOW and investors.
Basically, it’s the concept of knowing when to cut losses and walk away instead of assuming you’ve spent too much (money or time or something of value) already and are afraid to lose what you’ve invested so much into already.
[–]HeyLookItsOwl13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fallacies only work when they are not addressed. As soon as a fallacy is identified as such, it becomes deconstructed and has no effect. This is usually when you move on to the next phase of NPC behavior - insults.
Being triggered -> Making false arguments -> Using fallacies to defend false argument -> Making insults when fallacies fail -> Finally threats of violence when all other forms of intellect are defeated.
Every.Single.Time
[–]Ctlaw19 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lol, the solipsism in this chart is palpable.
The person who made this chart is arguing against themselves and winning thus giving themselves a pat on the back.
With the exception of a few, most of the things mentioned there are easily reputable.
[–]canfidel[S] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Perhaps all of these are not fallacies but tactics for debates and discussions. A guide to understand the arguments and strategies of the opposing side.
[–]LeBomfaier0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it's just strategies and how to use and/or identify them. r/coolguides material imo
[–]Sir_manalot6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Using fallacies to fight an argument is never a good idea really (due to the fallacy fallacy).
You are suppose to use logical fallacies to "fight fire with fire.". Aka redirect the argument back into a logical and factual discussion... instead of the argument devolving into an uncontrollable fire burning down both sides of the forest.
Which can be done and helps a debate focus on more meaty things. But most people just use them to try to put fire out by throwing fire onto the fire.
Which just degrades the argument and makes the person who tried to put out the fire with more fire look like an idiot.
So whenever someone tries to say you are wrong because of a fallacy.
Use the cherry picking fallacy and fallacy fallacy to fight against it. They will either focus on your other arguments, or be force to use more fallacies (trapping them).
Arguments need to be about facts and logic, nobody wins if you win a fight with emotion or hypocracy.
As truth helps you far more then winning does.
Just imagine how much you suffered when you were denying the red pill to get an idea of what I mean.
[–]hominid_mgtow5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rather just avoid arguing with such idiots.
[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Woah woah...woah.
Slow down here, are you saying we shouldn't waste our time fighting idiots?
You sir are a genius.
[–]canfidel[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Agree. Once you identify what the other person is attempting to do, it becomes easier to deconstruct their arguments or questions. Not allowing the discussion to be hijacked, it works in your favour to stick to the topic at hand and shoot down the dodging attempts of the opposition.
[–]Natsume242 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. Always ask yourself what is the goal the other person is trying to reach with this argument. Is it to inform? Or to dominate?
[–]reaper5552 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the point is to use these fallacies to improve yourself and identify bias in your decision making process.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is another good use that I didn't even think of as a cynical Grinch.
[–]Lord_Teapot2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
most of those have come true, though.
[–]arealchillbrownie1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm saving this
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
here is something similar: rhetological fallacies.
[–]canfidel[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you!
[–]dazed1110 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think slippery slope is a fallacy
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isn't it the fallacies chart of the atheist community?
[–]Natsume240 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't know why but I've literally tried to understand this chart. Either I'm terrible with debates or some of these logical fallacies seem way too complicated.
I think I'll just prefer to keep it straight with my arguments, using the knowledge I'm aware of to make conclusions, and to concede my argument when compelling evidence is presented against me.
Yeah, I'll just stick with that.
[–]canfidel[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the most important points you can put forward is to simply admit that you do not possess enough knowledge/understanding of a subject to have an opinion about it. It works like a charm.
[–]Scooby-Doo140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Can you send me the link for this chart?
I do not have the link. A friend of mine sent this to me via Facebook. You can save it as an image on your device.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com
[–]Scooby-Doo140 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thx
[–]xiaoxiao120 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Burden of proof, bandwagon, appeal to authority, begging the question and false cause fallacies are very common from theists.
Appeal to emotion, loaded question, black or white, anecdotal, middle ground, personal incredulity are very common from women.
Strawman isn't really a fallacy when it isn't taken to the extreme. A strawman can actually help mutual understanding because you're giving the other person a chance to reformulate their statement before you internalize your assumptions about them. For example
You: "We shouldn't increase tax on gasoline."
Person: "So you think climate change is a hoax?"
You: "No, I just think it is unfair to burden the average Joe that needs his car to go to work every day."
Person: "Then we can agree that we need to look at alternatives?"
You: "Yes indeed."
[–]Dawnguards0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Trolls and women doesnt care about all this fluff.. :D
[–]MarzMonkey0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fallacy fallacy is one that no one seems to understand and instead act like "ahha sir. Ive defeated your argument" when they point out fallacies.
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