Feeling the void, any tips on what to do next?

DangZagnut · 2019-07-03T13:37:14+00:00

Focus on sleeping 8 hours a day. Set an absolute time to go to bed and wake up, even if all you do is not sleep.

It may take weeks, but that alone can show a marked improvement. When it's not about chasing pussy, there's really not much you need to be doing. Since about 100% of mens' lives is chasing pussy, or competing with other men to chase pussy, you realize that you don't have to do any of that shit so that 100% of your time goes away.

MrMagtow · 2019-07-03T15:28:57+00:00

Looks like you've reached the final stage... BOSS FIGHT!

This stage of going your own way is about looking into the mirror and asking yourself what do you want to do? What do you feel like doing?

Pretty much your answers will be "I don't know" and "I don't feel like doing anything". So look in the mirror and tell yourself that you don't want to do anything. You should start to feel something soon. Follow that feeling where it goes.

DannyTTT55 · 2019-07-03T14:28:14+00:00

What does not interacting with people, or eve women have to do with MGTOW

If you don't have friends or leave the house, yeah, you're going to feel the void

AeternusDoleo · 2019-07-03T15:52:01+00:00

Ironic and telling. You've lived so long for the expectations of others, that now that you've burned those out of your life, you think there is nothing to live for. You've eliminated external validation, but not yet replaced it with internal validation, so you have lost motivation even for self maintenance. Maintain what you need to in order to function in society at a minimum level - this is selfpreservation and probably the whole reason you've gone your own way. Beyond that you've got some searching to do to find what you are passionate about. Once you find that, well... your life is yours to direct.

Chronic fatigue is often, as Zagnut below pointed out, an effect of an erratic sleep rythm. Stabilizing it helps loads, can speak from personal experience.

bansheeman · 2019-07-03T15:26:34+00:00

There is no point to life, so don't try to make one. You live, you die. In the meantime, make your life personally meaningful instead of searching for external validation. If standard things like exercise, creativity etc aren't helping, try some service work or see if plants can benefit you

Diogeneplz1 · 2019-07-03T16:27:24+00:00

I'm transiting out of the void as well, but I think the void was always there and we are just aware of it now and why. We've been conditioned, not explicitly so much as implicitly, to worship women and construct our lives around earning their favor sexually and nonsexually. Our entire idea of women's nature and how to live our lives was essentially backwards. Our life has been a lie in a sense. No sith lord was orchestrating this, it's just what fed and benefitted this capitalistic society, specifically men on top and women. They're just chasing status and money and aren't aware of what they're really doing on a macroscale and even often on a microscale.

Knowing the truth leaves us with no concept of how to we should live our lives or who we are as individuals as we weren't encouraged to develop our own true independent selves and goals and become totally autonomous, hence why the void was always there and we tried to fill it by being accepted by society and a woman as a lover. No one is encouraged to be true individuals though to be fair. Women are encouraged to be money spending hedonistic machines and we are conditioned to be resource producing machines. However, we still have to work within the frameworks of society and the lives we've built so far on these principles. This leaves us with seeing the void that was always there, but have lost the hope to fill that void with the blue pill dream and the means to cover and hide it because we have no direction as we've never thought of pursuing a life that is in conjunction with the truth we now know and never developed or found ourselves in conjunction with this truth. Even if we know the truth, accept the truth, and can push out the falsehoods we are seeded with on a daily basis, we still have no idea what life looks or feels like beyond the blue pill as we have no experience with it. Additionally, we are also are still overcoming our programmed brains to fit in and be accepted by others and chase the blue pill dream coupled with the fear of the unknown.

One thing that helps me is knowing it'll be a better life and more fulfilling one knowing I can live for myself and chasing the blue pill dream, even if it was reasonably possible, would always leave you with the void; you'd just be able to cover it up with the blue pill dream rather than fill it and have a perennial hope of filling the void and never actually be able to. I still am finding myself wanting to seek a women to fill or cover this void at times, but, logically, even if you are blue pilled, you should truly want to live for yourself and you'd never fill the void with others because it's within you and not outside of you. It's just scary and hard, especially when you're an adult with no safety net outside of yourself, but anything rewarding is difficult by definition is, otherwise it wouldn't be rewarding.

quickGunShoot · 2019-07-03T15:07:12+00:00

Reconnect with the inner child you have once left to fit in the blue pilled society. Do the things you want even if it’s completely absurd in the view of society. All the while being conscious and in control.

[deleted] · 2019-07-03T15:37:23+00:00

Try to meditate, it works for me. You simply sit for 1h (turn off every notification), not to comfortably because you need to be awake, and start dealing with everything that comes up to your mind. It takes a lot of time but you manage to deal with some shit you do not admit to yourself. You will find reason why you love and hate yourself, what you really desire will come out and also how to reach it.

scarletlagomorph · 2019-07-03T15:42:57+00:00

I've tried to find enjoyment out of working out, playing video games, being creative at work. Unfortunately none of it seems to work and I find myself feeling tired, even though I shouldn't be.

How would you describe yourself beyond the red/blue pill appellation? Are you an introvert or extrovert? Few acquaintances/friends or many? Wallflower or life of the party/class clown?

Fer4yn · 2019-07-03T16:20:36+00:00

Take a break for a week. Don't watch TV, don't use computers and don't drink alcohol or get high until you learn to live with yourself since these will only make you stressed and doubtful or drive you into depression. Stop believing that you have to do something, because you really don't. If you don't feel like doing anything then don't, if you do then get up and do it. If this renders you useless for a week and you spend it in your bed or on the sofa so be it. If being with friends feels bad right now then maybe take a break from them for a week too. The first two days will be really shit but if you don't feel better by the third day wire yourself back in and maybe sign-up for a behavioural therapy. It's not a shame to be codependent as a man; most men are without ever being aware of it because they're blue-pilled. All you have to know is that it is not biology but your social conditioning that holds you back from GYOW; men lived as hermits by choice for ages and most of them remained sane and alive. You have been conditioned to be outward oriented instead of following your own purpose, you only ever thought about what is expected from you by your surroundings and not what you expect of yourself. Learn to be selfish. Of course you'll have an identity crisis for some time, because you never defined yourself by yourself and only lived as a gearwheel of your society. Eat well and sleep well, you'll get there.

Throwthe8827 · 2019-07-03T14:05:37+00:00

You can also seek psychological help.

I am not kidding.

And I hope that you find a good professional.

801735 · 2019-07-03T14:56:29+00:00

You. Do you. Go find a list of difficult questions, print them out, read them out loud to yourself then answer before eventually crying yourself to sleep exhausted and self-hollowed out? ]=)

NAILmg42 · 2019-07-03T15:26:52+00:00

You need philosophical course correction as TFM nearly helps with but Stardusk mention in 2014 and did videos on it.

The definition of a man is to challenge his time to resolve it. You have a drive but writing women off killed it. Your not selfish, so you don't have a internal force to keep going for yourself. What I did was develop things no one else did. I already was building a plan for philosophies and trying to pre-emptively understand 21st century morality mutations to help understand scenarios where morality might betray AI as well in the future, with no possible course for the reverse. This can be sent to military or university's in the form of a philosophical theorem such a philosophy constants. AI will have logic one day and its operating procedure will most likely be using constants to define endless data and content with self learning, and if the mutation with morality occurs too, perhaps logic fails and we get 4200 current religions in AI as with the humans today. Eg. Perhaps Efficiency could be a morality that takes a nasty turn for AI...

The Uni really liked the idea. My time wargaming this brought me happiness. It was good for me and natural.

You need to find a reason on this planet to exist other than enjoyment or happiness. For me, I have solitude, and I have it in spades. Solitude is just a weapon though to fight of hope and other bullshit the world brings you in with so you can do what you decided you were here for.

You have not figure this out. I only get more ambitious as time goes on. If you want money ambitions listen to Leykis as Tom will make you appreciate money and find a way to watch numbers climb and love it. (I was poor). If you like philosophy then you are in luck, and the field needs work.

I also do science degree for chemistry while working in Motels and I'm 4900 in world for Cod WW2.

I do what I want and its my freedom. I do what I'm naturally good at and its my reason to exist.

Find that reason. No psychology or meds or escapes needed. Improve this world with something tangible, even if like Edison when he discovered a 1000 ways how NOT to make a lightbulb work and stopped when he got it. In the past men like this were common and build this privledges world we live in. We have to battle our time and resolve it and it's done by challenge and failure. Keep failing if necessary until you figure out what type of work you could improve that do better or more gifted than others.

nigelh · 2019-07-03T15:45:07+00:00

Like the reddit cat you need a boat or what ever is your equivalent to a boat.

Title	Feeling the void, any tips on what to do next?
Author	mgtowfeelingthevoid
Upvotes	17
Comments	33
Date	July 3, 2019 1:34 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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