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[–]NietzscheExplosion0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then you meet everywomans first husband. The state.
[–]jbslol57 points58 points59 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At first I was like huh but then I got it. That is clever.
[–]Uruke43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You meet her bitchy twin sister after marriage and her secret identity during divorce.
[–]DaoIsTheWay2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hahaha...thank you for the laughs
[–]mastermomo1625 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Currently going into an arranged marriage. Thankfully my mom is a full on vetter and will drop any girl who shows any idea of western feminism. She has VERY strict guidelines for women marrying me.
Meeting the girl can vary culture by culture, but thankful ours is more prone to not only meeting the girl, but also the family too to make sure everyone is genuine and not gold diggers. It's relaxing knowing it's not rude to inquire if the girl has any debt for example. You try doing that here in the US and you're lucky if the girl just calls you inconsiderate.
I remember not understanding why my mom was so against me meeting someone here in the US when I was younger, but completely understand it now.
If anyone has questions regarding arranged marriages, I dont mind answering. I feel like people outside of cultures that do it can take them the wrong way, when in fact they can be a Godsend. Well at least in my culture anyways. I'm not well enough versed in how it is in others that do it, so I won't say it's a general good thing since I'm not educated enough on that end to make an opinion.
[–]Facelessnotnameless11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
I got a question. Why get married? And what if the girl is not as she seems if even after being fully vetted?
[–]medzovic13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I think he's a Muslim, so yeah the only halal way to have sex is by getting married, so he can't get a hooker or just get ons's from time to time like mgtow's and I think it's going to be super hard going monk mode without having sex first we've a saying in my country that translates into " the watermelon that hasn't been open, it got a lot of touching"
[–]THE_NUBIAN7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
More likely Indian ... I work with a bunch, I have heard some horror stories ...
[–]medzovic5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm from Egypt feminism has infiltrated everywhere in the world here it's rapidly taking some ground in the culture and being in a country 80% of its population are Muslims isn't really making a difference
[–]hrm08941 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Globalism is CANCER.
[–]mastermomo163 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pakistani Haha. You're not lying though
[–]Splendid_Wiz0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I kinda know one.
[–]mastermomo167 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep you got it and lol, what a saying
[–]abbefaria897 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We have it wayyyy better in Pakistan than other countries. It it slowly bowing out to the feminist agenda but for now we have it good and hence, lower divorce rates too.
[–]3weepydonuts0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I really doubt my friend. I am from the same country and have seen it getting ruined already.
Only winning move is not to play. Stay strong ya'll!
[–]mastermomo1611 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
For the first question, I would say religion plays a big part in that area. As a Muslim one of the big no-no's is having sexual relations before marriage, and I'm waiting till marriage to have sex. Without that, relationships came with a timer for me when women wanted to have sex and I'd tell them "I'm good". It's why I haven't dated in about 6 years and have just been focusing on me.
Can't have the headache of denying a girlfriend something she wants if you dont have one at all taps heads
For the second question, I can thank my culture (and religion) for that. I'll explain the duties of men and women separately to give you a better picture.
Women: They're expected to be submissive to their husbands regardless of their upbringing, and as a result are required to listen to the husband. Both sides of the family expect this from them and its seen as a huge disgrace to the girls family if she doesn't abide. Along with saying that, a girl following that tradition on their own is pretty common anyway.
With this in mind and my mom's scrutiny, I know I'll be alright. Plus I have to meet her personally too, and my say, along with hers, is last. If something doesn't feel right, I can just bounce.
Theres also the job aspect of the two genders and how they play an equal responsibility for the household. For women, being a homemaker is pretty important as they act as the base to a family's foundation.
Men: They're expected to be dominant and leaders for the household. One, because it melds with the support role the wife plays. And two, because they serve as a role model for their children to look up to. Mostly men are the breadwinners in the household, but I've seen some parents both play as breadwinners (mainly husbands and wives who are doctors). Even though men become the breadwinners, this doesn't mean they become a walking atm for their wives or children. They have full discretion and rights to the money they make and how they use it for the family. So in other words, the wife can't just use the husband like a piggy bank.
Oh, also before I forget, divorce is a HUGE no-no. Thanks to the roles men and women have to play, it leads them to needing/supporting one another in the family setting. Which is partly why divorce in arranged marriages are very rare.
Even if it does happen, the spouses follow the Islamic way for separation of wealth. Muslims dont go by the God awful "law" the US has for divorce. I honestly feel really bad for my mates here having to cut half of their wealth off to some bimbo who decided she got bored and wanted out.
P.S. Sorry for the long wait. I want to try to be thorough in answering your question. Let me know if you have anything else you wanted answered brother.
[–]noots1231230 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Man, get four wives while you can. It'll save them from simps.
[–]mastermomo160 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Actually, I don't recommend any brother to have multiple wives. A lot of people have misconceptions about marrying multiple women in Islam and I'd like to explain to my MGTOW bros why doing that is one of the worst decisions a man could do for himself.
To begin with, having multiple wives is not recommended in Islam as you have to give equal attention AND equal financial stability to them all. In other words, you have to be mad rich. Also, it defeats the purpose of keeping money to your own discretion as the head of the household.
I dont know about you, but I'd rather keep my money to myself. Besides, most Muslims aren't really down with the multiple wives idea to begin with for a couple of reasons:
1) Less financial stability.
2) A lack of proper connection with a spouse since multiple spouses are involved.
3) The requirement of giving multiple spouses equal attention.
4) A lack of focus for a proper family foundation (ie children become lost in their relationship with the father).
5) Having to dealing with drama between wives, considering women tend to be more likely to stir things up between them (in other words a shit ton of unneeded drama).
6) You end up becoming the thing you despise. A walking ATM.
I could go on, but the gist of it is that it's not glamorous at all. It's not very common to begin with either and is actually looked down upon in a lot of cultures. The only Muslims I know that have multiple wives are some rich ass Saudi princess. I don't anyone in Pakistan who does it. There may be someone though, but none to my knowledge at all as it defeats the purpose of marriage in our culture.
[–]noots1231230 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brother, you are verging on C-word that ends with 'k'. May Allah gives you hidayat. Strict monogamy is not an Islamic but something we inherited from our South Asian Hindu roots. If it were really that bad, many sahaba and ahl-bayt wouldn't have encouraged us by marrying multiple wives.
[–]ForestBuddha-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hindu?
[–]ougryphon25 points26 points27 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Everytime a marriage is born, the gods flip a coin.
[–]CSM_Pepper12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sean Penn and Guy Ritchie approve this message.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t get the reference?
[–]CSM_Pepper0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Don%27t_Preach
Penn and Ritchie are Madonna's ex-husbands.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate Madonna.
[–]Ryan04B2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Had to double read
[–]PapaMGTOW2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't Mind if I do!
[–]ForestBuddha1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Slightly tangential but arranged marriages fare far better than the secular pick-and-choose variety. I live among Hasidic Jews and holy hell they are far happier with their domestic lives. After all, her parents probably know her better than you ever will haha
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was a nice one !!
[–]kaolin2240 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ouch.
[–]CynicalBlu0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good one
[–]ResolvingParadox130 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saw this happen with my Dad... It's the absolute worst
[–]incognito1116-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why? How?
[–]incognito11160 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How? First, there's a punctuation mark where none belongs. It changes the context of the statement. Second, if you don't know your spouse well enough before you get married, you're a moron.
Edit: In western, non-arranged cultures.
[–]LotBuilder-3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You really don’t know till your second anniversary.
[–]pringle_8642[🍰] -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
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